Past, Present and future

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   Jeramiposted 14 years ago

   I went to bead, was just laying there and a thought came to mind.
   
   I want to write it down while I'm still thinking about it.
   Most Christians are thinking that All of prophesy is going to all happen soon, and it is all coming down in a 7 year plan.
   
      I want to bring something to mind that I haven't said before.
   
     Scripture says...  Jesus appeared to John on the isle of Patmos.
   
   I’m  Paraphrasing now ... Jesus told John … “ I came to show you a vision about …      that you have seen, things that are ,  and of things to come.
   
   
      Why    on earth    ???  does Christians think that all of Revelations are pertaining to events that are yet to occur "???"
   
   Have seen,       which are,       which shall be.
     Past            present            Future   
       What ya think?       Is the before mentioned  comparison of words a “WILD”  off the wall interpretation?
   
      I'm only bringing this up   CAUSE   Christians should tell other Chistians about stuff like that.

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Prophecy will be regarding the future.
      Visions can be the past as well.

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         Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I agree that prophesy is concerning a thing that is ti happen in the future.
         
           But it doesn't remain futuristic for ever?????
           It will eventually happen if it is a ture prophesy.
         
           That scripture says that some of the events described in Revelation had allready happened, and is happening at the time that John recieved it.
         
           It doesn't make sense that they would stop happening at that point..  skipping 1900 years before they are to begin happening again ?
           Does it ?

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes it will eventually happen.

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               Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I see too many indicators that they have never stopped unfolding.
               
                 Like Rev 5:6    Jesus is not seen as king of kings or the son of God in this verse.
               
                 He is seen as if He had just come down from the cross.
                 He wasn't in Heaven one minute and is standing there opening the seals the next.
               
                 I believe that this was described that way for a very good reason.

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      stilljustwonderinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Your right.  A lot has already happened.  Even as a child I heard people saying the end is near.  They were seeing prophecy being fulfilled, but, not all.  The Bible hadn't been published in all nations at that time.  Scripture tells us of the increase in knowledge.  Be it spiritual knowledge or technology, that hadn't happened at the time of my child hood.  That is a fulfillment of prophecy now.  No, the book of Revelations doesn't just cover a 7 year period.
      To my understanding.  I am sure there will be some one to disagree. 
      That's ok tho, they do have that right.

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         Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Take the prophesy written in Daniel for instance.
         
            When Alexander the Great was marching toward Jerusalem to conquer it ...  A group of priest went forth to meet Alexander with scripture in hand.
         
           The priest showed Alexander where prophesy foretold his arrival and dominion over the Hebrew Nation.
           Alexander considered this as victory and changed his attention in another direction.
         
            When the Bubonic plague was killing 1/2 to 2/3s of the population in Europe they recognized this to be fulfillment of the first vial judgment.(Rev 12:2)
         
             We are much further down the line in prophesy than anyone wants to admit.

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            stilljustwonderinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with you.  We are watching all the pieces of the puzzle come together.
            It may still take a little while for the final piece to fall into place, but, I really don't expect to die of old age.

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               Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               The only time specific prophesy that applies to us is the end of the 42 months that the beast (Rev 13) is given to blasphemy.
               
                  It appears clear to me that the 1000 years that Satan is bound in the pit for a 1000 years are contained within the 42 months. 
               
                 Satan gives his power and his seat to this beast before he is bound in the pit. (Rev 13)  and after the 1000 years (rev. 16:13) the beast false prophet are seen in the dried up river Euphrates ; and 3 spirits come out of each of their mouths to gather together the kings of the earth to battle.
               (same as Rev. 20:8)
               
                 After his release out from the pit; Satan is given a little season to gather the kings together.  A season is approx 119 years.

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   TruthDebaterposted 14 years ago

   I have seen many old folk in their last few years worrying about prophecy and if this is the end times. Many even hope for the end times simply so they can be right and feel justified about their belief. So is prophecy selfish? Wanting an end to everyone because one or some individuals think it's time? Plus there would be no point of the future if it was already planned and written.
   
   Also, isn't it a little contradictory that the bible teaches folk not to worry, then preaches of end times in attempts to make people worry and believe?

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      srwnsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think many people who look forward to the end days as not simply an end to humanity, but possibly as a new beginning. If taken in that context, perhaps they don't worry. MY OPINION

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