Jesus in the East, from The Fifth Gospel

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Jesus Christ lived in the house of Ananias at that time. But when the Jews sent a commission to Damascus, he left the place and reached Babylon. As he had visited the east in his childhood, he knew the routes and topography of these countries. He had already been saved and now on this strange odyssey, God guided him, so that he could be saved from further persecution. Jesus and his mother had to migrate from Palestine and they departed for a far-off country. Both of them traversed from country to country. Some of his devotees followed him from place to place. During his journey toward the east, Jesus was accompanied by Mary the Mother, Peter the Apostle, and another Mary who can be no other person than Mary Magdalene.
   
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      skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      pure RUBBISH from a person that will not answer any QUESTIONS, paar I belive you also love Jews, you belong to a strange cult. Paar you only put Jesus down, you only INSULT Jesus, then you say you LOVE Jesus, you do not love Jusus you CAN ONLY INSULT Jesus. I think you are also a 'closet' Jew, and a part time Muslim!!!!!!
      You make your post's up as you write then , no facts , no discussion , will not answer questions, so POST CLOSED'
      
      UNTILL YOU WILL PUT YOUR BELIEF'S UP FOR DISCUSSION, ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND HAVE A PROPER DEBATE.
      THIS POST IS CLOSED UNTILL YOU DO THE AFOREMENTIONED.
      UP TO YOU NOW PARR DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS?????

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   The fifth Gospel adds following information:
   
   According to the Gospel of Philip, Mary Magdalene was the consort of Jesus Christ. As such, it is obvious that of the two who accompanied Jesus Christ on his migration towards the east, one was Mary, the mother of the Lord, while the other one must have been Mary Magdalene, the consort of Jesus Christ.
    
   It is a strange coincidence that the successor of Buddha has been called Rahula. When he is separated from his mother, a lady devotee named Magdaliyana acts as a messenger between him and the mother. The word, Rahula may mean, Ruh-Allah, or the Spirit of God and Magdaliyana. The lady messenger may refer to Mary Magdalene, who was so much attached to Jesus Christ. It is also strange that the Tomb of Mary has been located about 6 miles from Kashgar in Central Asia.
    
   It is probable that the tomb in question is that of Mary Magdalene.
   
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      Dave Mathewsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      These writings may exist, but they are not a part of the Holy Bible as we know it. There are only 4 Gospels in the Holy Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The other books are Epistles. The writings you refer to are quite possibly authenticated writings from the people you name but they were not incorporated in the Holy Bible.

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Jesus did not select which gospel to select to be included in the NT; it is the sinful Church that did it.

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            libby101aposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The Bible is how God wanted it to be... those things that were "selected" as you say was because that is how God wanted it.
            
            The Qu'ran is hearsay... Muhammad didn't write the first word... he couldn't even read or write. His followers memorized his words... then many, many years late the Qu'ran was written from the memories of others. If that isn't hearsay I don't know what else is.
            
            You discredit the Bible and Jesus' birthright as God's son by the ramblings of a man who swore he saw the angel Gabriel, yet he was the only one who seen him. There is so much evidence in the opposite direction! I don't believe God has anyting to do with a thief!
            
            Paarsurrey you are turning into nothing but a trouble maker. God is not pleased with people who stir up strife. I don't care what the Qu'ran says... for it is false to begin with. Muhammad was a tool of satan and you are being used in the same way!
            
            Now leave the christians alone and focus on your own teachings!

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Jesus Christ in Parthia
   
   We are informed by the Gospel of Philip that after having been saved from crucifixion, Jesus Christ was nursed by his friends and disciples and remained in hiding for some time. During this period, he imparted special spiritual knowledge to Peter and James. After having remained with them for a period of about one year and a half, he made up his mind to leave them. He appointed James as his successor and migrated.
   
   It has already been mentioned that Thomas had already been deputed to Parthia and India by Jesus. As such, it is but natural that Jesus Christ felt safe to travel in these lands. At that period, the Parthian empire extended right from Antioch and Palmyria to Kabul on one side and from the Caspian sea to the Arabian sea. He wanted to avoid the limits of the Romans, and as such, took the first opportunity to reach Damascus. From that place he went to the city of Nisibis, which had a colony of exiled Jews. The city being the meeting ground of many caravan routes was full of men of all nations busy in trade and commerce.
   
   Jesus Christ tried his best to conceal his identity, and it was at this place that he came to be known as Yuz Asaph. He wore clothes and a turban of white fleece and carried a rod in his hand. He set a seal of silence on his lips, and began his journey further. Nisibis lay on the silk route from Syria to Mosul and beyond, towards the east. Jesus had travelled incognito to this place.
   
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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   The fifth Gospel: consisting of Jesus journey towards India after the event of the crucifixion:
   
   Nisibis
   
   It is related by Josephus that the king of Adiabene sent his son Ezad to stay with Abennerigos, the king of Spasinou Charax at the head of the Persian Gulf. The small principality of Adiabene existed between Tabriz and Mossul, on the banks of the river Tigris. Ezad returned home to ascend the throne of Adiabene on the death of his father.
   
   It was Ananias who had converted Ezad and his queens. After some years the king of Parthia accorded him to rule over Nisibis with the result that his kingdom extended right up to the banks of the Mediterranean. We know already that it was Ananias who had reached Jerusalem with a letter from Abgar Ukkama for Jesus. It was too late and Jesus had been crucified. It was Thomas who gave the shroud to him for Abgar. Both Ezad and Abgar were contemporaries of Jesus Christ.
   
   If seems that from Damascus Jesus and his party reached Nisibis, which was a safe place for them. Maybe Ananias wished to carry Jesus to Edessa but the proximity of the Roman capitol prevented Jesus from proceeding westward. As such, Jesus moved towards the east and reached Mossul, and from that place to Babylon, which was on the banks of Euphrates.
    
   We are informed that Jesus preached his doctrines in Nisibis and many accepted him. At the same time the orthodox became his enemies and tried to kill him. Early evidence of Christianity at Nisibis is provided by an inscription on a grave which reads as follows:
    
   I saw the Syrian plain, and all the cities - even Nisibis, having crossed the Euphrates.
   Everywhere I found people with whom to speak.
   
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   marty1968posted 12 years ago

   Paarsurrey I dont know wat enticed you to writ such filth but your research is a dudd. Remarks like that against my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Are blasphemous and you will get a just reward by Him for trying to push your false "religion". I can assure you that God has no part in tellinga middle-aged pervert to be a prophet. Anyone who marries a 6 year old and then has sex wih her at the age of 9 is a sexual predator and a pervert in my book. I have set idly by and watched libby101a try to convince you that you are blinded by this Qu'ran or whatever it is and you have blatently attacked her from every angle. But, unlike you she has the real truth backing her and that truth is the word of God. The bible clearly tells us in Luke Chapter 21 to settle it therefore on our hearts, not to meditate before on what we shall for God will give us a mputh and wisdom which all our adversaries shall not be able to contradict or resist. Heed these words. We love you and want you to open your eyes to the truth that God is trying to show you

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There were about 40 gospels out of which Church selected 4 only randomly and pronounced them "inspired" while they were not inspired; all having errors and contradictions. I think it would be good for the Christians to read the Fifth Gospel also and then reach to the Truth.

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      Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It's interesting that you both share almost exactly the same opinions and beliefs about the other persons religion and that of your own.

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   cheaptrickposted 12 years ago

   You can tell you've Created God in your Image when God Hates All The Same People You Do...The Twenty seven books of the bible were originally selected by the Bishop of Alexandria for His Churches in 180 CE.
   Constantine Favored them and wouldn't ya know it...The Same Twenty Seven books were chosen at the Council of Nicaea!
   They[being copies of copies]were then completely edited and stream lined by the Roman Catholic Church for it's own safety and Gain.Subsequent copies have been corrupted over and over by scribes.We know this by comparing copies in chronological order...there have been to many changes for the Bible to be complete.
   "These are only a few of the things Jesus Said and Did,If you put them into books they would fill the Whole World"...End of the Gospel of John.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This is the reality of the Christian "inspiration"; I appreciate your analysis

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   The fifth Gospel: consisting of Jesus journey towards India after the event of the crucifixion:
   
   Jesus in Persia
   
   From Babylon, Jesus proceeded to Ur and from that place to Kharax, which was the capital of the kingdom of Mesene. It was the main port to which ships brought the products of India and the far east. From that place, the goods were transported up the river Euphrates to Babylon, then to Arbel in Adiabene and thence to Nisibis and Edessa in the west. It was possible for Jesus to take a sea route to India but he avoided it and instead crossed into the Persian empire.
    
   In Persian works, we hear about Yuz-Asaph, which means Yuzu, who is the leader of those lepers who have been cured by him. Here is the report given in the Persian dictionary:
    
   In the days of Hazrat Isa, when lepers were cured by him, they, on being admitted among the healthy people, were known as Asaph. Thus Haz-rat Isa, who cured lepers. also came to be known as Yuz-Asaph, for he not only cured them but gathered them under his merciful protection.
    
   Jesus Christ was known in Persia as Yuz-Asaph. His sayings and teachings in the region, as recorded in the Iranian traditions, are the same as those of Jesus Christ. This shows that his preachings were popular among the Persians. It is clear that after the advent of Islam, the Christians, the Jews and the Zoroastrians lost importance, and were reduced in numbers.
   
   But the sayings, and parables of Jesus Christ continued in their traditions and lived afterwards as those of Yuz-Asaph. From Nisibis two routes led toward the east; one passed through Nishapur and Herat to Kabul, and the other through Susa, and Hermuz to Sind. Jesus Christ took the former route. ...
   
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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   The fifth Gospel: consisting of Jesus journey towards India after the event of the crucifixion:
   
   Jesus in Persia
   
   It may be mentioned that trade routes, both by sea and land, between India and other countries in the west have existed since ancient times. It was in about 3100 B.C. that the seafaring Sumerians established their colonies in the Indus Valley region. right from Mohenjo-daro to Kashmir.
   
   They exploited the economic and commercial resources of the region. The Sumerian seals excavated at Mohenjo-daro and Harappa have revealed that the Indus Valley region was an abode of Amorites or the seafaring people, who were fire and sun worshippers.
    
   From Kabul, the trade route went to Peshawar, and then to Taxila. Jesus Christ and his companions had to bear many hardships during their travel from Herat to Kabul, and then to Taxila. They had lived on wild fruits and vegetables. Jesus had walked on foot, but some of his companions brought a horse for him.
   
   But Jesus refused to have the horse, and journeyed on foot. During his travels, he had to face many hardships. It is reported that he was arrested, but as he had healed the sick, the governor of the city became his devotee. Many among the people and the soldiers became his disciples. He, preached among them and they became happy to hear his words.
   
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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   The fifth Gospel: consisting of Jesus journey towards India after the event of the crucifixion:
   
   Jesus in Persia
   
   Jesus delivered many sermons in Persia, and he was welcomed by the people, who listened to him devoutly. The high priest got him arrested, and he was asked about which new God he was speaking to the people [about] when Zoroaster only had the privilege of communion with the Supreme Being.
   
   He was also told that the laws were given to Zoroaster by God, and he should not sow doubts in the heart of believers. On hearing this, Jesus said unto them:
    
   It is not of a new God that I speak:
   But of our Heavenly Father,
   Who has existed since all time;
   And who will still be after,
   The end of all things.
   It is of Him,
   That I have discoursed to the people,
   Who,
   Like unto innocent children,
   Are not yet capable,
   Of comprehending God,
   By the simple strength of their intelligence;
   Or of Penetrating,
   Into His divine,
   And spiritual sublimity.
   
   http://www.spinninglobe.net/jesus5g.htm

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    libby101aposted 12 years ago

    This is all garbage! None of it is proven or fact! Hearsay bolongy!
    
    Paarsurrey you have serious issues! Why would a man work so hard to try to discredit Jesus and Paul? What does that gain you? If I were you, knowing that Muhammad's nonsense was nothing but a made up story so he could get what he wanted out of life, I would dig deeper into my own faith instead of bugging others!
    
    
    Your links are all nonsense! These are not facts...merely someone's idea of what happened! A story made up!
    
    Get a life paarsurrey!

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    paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

    I am defending the real Jesus of Quran; the Christians  cannot defend the mythical god-son-of-god; the time they left him on the Cross alone and fled away.
    
    Jesus son-of-man and the Prophet Messenger of the Creator-God Allah YHWH has a very respecful status in Quran/Islam/Muhammad; I only defend Jesus and his righteous mother Mary. Quran has many chapters in which their truthful and rational character is mentioned.

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       libby101aposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Were you there Paarsurrey? Did you see all this? No... you were not. You have the words of hearsay from the Qu'ran! All your thoughts come from one book, the mind of one man! You have no clue as to what really happened! I don't believe anything from Muhammad!
       
       Jesus was the son of God. And in the end you will see it.
       
       Worry about your own faith! Leave christian's alone!

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       skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       paas Libby and my self have tried to show you the errors of your waysbut your mind is so closed that if it is NOT in your Quran it did not happen, so you want to throw out all history and replace it with the raveings of a child molester,a sex mad pervert., a war monger and a so called prophert that could not read and write, so why have history ................... read yout Quran............ if it is not in your Quran it did not happen............. so paar when can history start again ................... did 9/11 not happen ........... bet 9/11 is not in the Quran..............OMG Paar are you and your false stories realy belivable??

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       skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       PAAR NO MUSLIM CAN DEFEND JESUS PERIOD

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    paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

    I don't agree with you. I will be steadfast to the truthful Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

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       libby101aposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       And I don't agree with you! I am sick of you going around putting down other's religions when your own religion is based on the biased ideals of a man who was a known thief in his own country!
       
       How did Muhammad get the funds to go to war against the Meccans? He robbed carivans and villages did he not? And you put faith in a man who was a thief! He allowed his men to rape the women of men they killed from these villages! A known rapest!
       
       I don't trust a word of the Qu'ran!
       
       Jesus was indeed the son of God!
       
       Why do you argue with Christians? I know why! Your Qu'ran teaches you too! It is full of hate for Jews and christians! Muhammad wasn't smart enough to figure out that Jesus was in fact a Jew himself!

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          Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          The same reason you are arguing with him. Religious beliefs. Notice how much conflict they cause?

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             skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             beelzedad  I am not argueing with paar, I just defend my faith as  paar is always attacking Jesus,  and tells lies ( im my opinion ) about my faith. If paar will stop his attacks, and mistruths. I'm happy to leave him alone.
             He keeps telling me Jesus did not die on the cross, and died in india, which is pure rubish. If paar looks at his Moslim cult first he will find even mainstream Muslims do not accept that Islamic cult. Yet he states he speaks for Islam, oh really!!!
             
             In fact I must admire the way he belives in his cult, but I have nothing against Paar just his warped views,

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                Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                They are your opinions just like they are his opinions. Whatever the case may be, it still leads to conflict and war. That's what religions do best.

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    paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

    Jesus did not select which gospel to select to be included in the NT; it is the sinful Church that did it.

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       skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       is this view from the Quran if not it is not true according to paar?

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          libby101aposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Because he couldn't handle that the Qu'ran was false...therefore it's better for his sanity to believe the NT is wrong! He would rather put faith in a false Messiah who swore his writings were straight from God then it was found out he plagerised from a great author of poetry! And the man blasphemed! That's why Paar's sect of Islam is hated by his own people! Even the Islam people knew that Ahmadi was a false Messiah!

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             skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             you have got it right again Libby , paar can't even answer any qestions, paar cannot defend Jesus and INSULT Jesus at the same time.
             POST CLOSED PAAR GO AND START ANOTHER ONE AND TRY AGAIN TO SPREAD  YOUR RUBISH

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       skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       which Church Paar?? NAME IT!!!!

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          paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Cahtolic, Protestant etc 32000+ of them

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       skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       how DARE you insult the Church  of God, that is not very peacefull paar is it, do you like  it if I say Muslims and the Quran are 'sinful' and are not true??
       can you name all 32000 Church's  that did this paar you did not give a honest answer, NAME THEM ALL, or say sorry for lieing!
       God bless

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    paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

    Jesus in the East, from The Fifth Gospel:
    
    In the Name of the Heavenly Father
    
    Jesus told them that he spoke in the name of our Heavenly Father. He explained that just as a baby discovers in the darkness its mother's breast; in the same way, people who have been led into error by erroneous doctrine,do recognise by instinct their Heavenly Father.
     
    Jesus paused a while in many a hamlet, town and cities in Persia. He preached and healed among the common people, who followed him in throngs. He also attended a feast in Persepolis. ...
     
    During his short sojourn in Persia, Jesus sat in silence in the prayer hall of the Magi priests, for seven days. Then he spoke on the origin of evil and good.
    
    He told them not to worship the sun, for it was but a part of the cosmos which God has created for humanity. It is to God and to God alone, that we owe all that we possess in this world. On hearing him, the priests asked how could a people live according to the rules of justice if it had no preceptor?
    
    Jesus replied that so long as the people had no priests, the natural law governed them, and they preserved the candour of their souls. He further explained that when their souls were with God, they could commune with the Father, without the medium of any idol or animal or the Sun or the fire. ...
     
    We have no information about the route taken by Jesus and his companions in their onward march towards the east. Maybe they visited Hamadan and Nishapur, from which city there are two roads, one leading to Afghanistan via Herat and thence to Kandhar and the other leading to Bukhara and Samarkand.
    
    The tomb of Mary Magdalene has been located near Kashgar in Central Asia. It is probable that Jesus took her to Bukhara, then to Samarkand and thence to Kashgar. After her demise, Jesus came back to Balkh and thence took the route along the bank of the river Indus and reached Sind. We will deal with this odyssey in subsequent pages.
    
    http://www.spinninglobe.net/jesus5g.htm

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       aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       This is TOTALLY incompatible with the unity within the four Gospels.
       NEVER once did Jesus suggest anything like sun worship.
       No wonder your ideas about Jesus are so wacky.
       Dear oh dear. What next?

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          paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          There were many gospels; forty of them; they only selected four out of them at random without any real merit. Hence you don't know what Jesus and Mary really belived in; for that you shall have to read Jesus' and Mary's account in Quran- the secure and pristine Word revealed from the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

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             aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             I suggest you read, study and try to understand the four Gospels in the Bible. Once you get a handle on them, you TOO will reject all others because they (if they even exist) will not have any continuity with the FOUR.
             
             When the Bible was being assembled, there were other writings that were considered, but were REJECTED because of this very point I am relating to you.

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                Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                For the most part, you can substitute "four Gospels of the Bible" with "Quran" and Parr will easily counter your argument.

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    skipper112posted 12 years ago

    oh poor paar, now paar has 40 lost Gospels, Jesus and Mary never wrote in the Quran, Jesus and Mary never read the Quran. How can the Quran be pure and pristine or revelled by Allah ( to Mohammed ) who even if the Quran was written in Mohammed's lifetime ( it was not)Mohammed could not read it so Mohammed could not have said it was what Allah told him?
    as aka-dj wrote ...... Dear oh Dear what next...........
    paar there is no way the Quran can be proved it was Mohammeds 'visions' or Allah's sayings, so I say this to you paar.... the Quran is never pure or pristine and was never revealed from Allah, it is hearsay 100% and nothing you can say will make it any different.
    But nice try paar, but you will try again.............
    May The Lord God Jesus Christ show you the way the truth and the light.
    amen

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    christiansisterposted 12 years ago

    Wow this is all so ugly and sad. That is what this thread left me feeling.

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    paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

    Jesus in the East, from The Fifth Gospel:
    
    Jesus in Sind
    
    It is of value, at this point in the narrative, to examine the various sources we have that give us evidence concerning the "missing years of Jesus" - from the age of thirteen through twenty-nine, when he returned to Israel. In a previous chapter, we made a brief reference to his stay in India (See pages 95-97) during that time. It is our belief that it was as a result of the profound learnings made by Jesus during this earlier stay in the east that he now knew that his life, having been completed in the west, concerned his mission there.
     
    Let us examine these sources. Piecing together many documents including The Life of St. Issa, The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ and The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ (among others) tells us that at the age of thirteen, Jesus left his parental house in secret and departed with the merchants toward Sind.46 His main object in leaving his country was to perfect himself in the Divine Word and to study the law of great Buddhas.
    
    In the course of his fourteenth year he reached Sind and established himself among the Aryans. After crossing the five rivers of the Punjab, he reached Rajputana and from that region. he proceeded towards Gujarat. Here he came into contact with the followers of Jainism. His fame had spread throughout and the Jains requested him to dwell among them. But he proceeded further and reached Orissa and was welcomed by the priests. They taught him the occult sciences.
     
    He then went to the holy cities of Rajagiri and Benaras and everyone loved him. He had spent six years in his travels. As he freely mixed with the low caste Vaishyas and Shudras, the upper caste Brahman-as and Khistriyas disliked his attitude.
     
    But he did not listen to their discourses and disliked their attitude. After that event he started preaching against the Brahmanas and the Khistriyas. ...
    
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       skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       hate to tell you paar there is NO such Gospel, just your rambling and ranting about pure rubbish!!

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          libby101aposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          That site he is quoting from is fake! There's no evidence of anything he his claiming! It is all hearsay and rubbish!

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             skipper112posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             I must agree Libby but try to tell paar that, I wish paar will stop his Christian bashing, that site is a pure insult and borders on being  insane.Next paar will tell us Jusus studied at the wailing wall, and in Mecca as well the Church of the Big Banana in Australia, I am starting to think paar is one peacefull missguided Mislim. Never mind one day he might see the truth through his 'blinkers"
             God bless Libby

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