One sees a computer with all the systems in it; one thinks it has been manufactured by some factory; one does not think even for a moment that it has existed always and has not been made by anybody.
If an Atheist Skeptic Agnostic sees Sun in the skies above and thinks it existed always and was not made by the Creator at a point in time; I think he is not rational; he must see a neurologist.
Am I right?
I think its skeptics & atheists who came up with the Big Bang theory that Banged your Religion really hard. So what you are claiming against Atheists or skeptics is really untrue. They do know & believe that Sun has a age & wasnt there always.
***But its you who believe there is an invisible hidden buddy in the skies, who were there always***
Is atheism a neurological disorder?
No, its just intellectual superiority which is above your understanding!
well Asperger's Syndrome (on the autistic spectrum) is considered a 'neurological disorder" - psychologists are fond of using "disorder" for what's not the most common. Those with AS have different brain wiring and are often intellectual - more into ideas and things than people/relationships. I've heard the majority of people with AS are atheists.
I don't think Atheism is a neurological disorder... I think you're asking the question to gain support for your belief. While Neurologists have located a "God Spot" in the brain, not interpreting the activity of that spot to God is not a disorder.... maybe you just really like chocolate... or sex (both would have roughly the same effect as "experiencing God".
Disorder is thrown around way too much, even by professionals.
Keep in mind, I'm Christian. I also love science... but both should be used for Truth, not attacks.
If you don't see a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow, do you also need to see a neurologist?
Just so you know... that could come off as somewhat condescending...
With all due respect to everyone on the forum, the OP was a bit condescending, so it's likely that there will be several responses in kind. Don't let it shock you.
Paarsurrey.
I think your tedious relentless posts about religion are mind numbingly dysfunctional.
why don't you just change the record occasionally.
Or do you have a theological disorder?
One sees a being, one thinks it comes from something, a father, a seed, another being, from a chemical process; one does not think even for a moment that it has existed always and has no origin.
If a believer feels a being and thinks it existed always and was not made by another creator at a point in time; I think he is not rational; he must see a neurologist.
Thanks for baiting people with such threads paar. By the way, do you want me to dig hadith and quran for clues of neurological disorder ?
Then what is right for him to do, in your opinion?
When you observe something like a computer, by definition it is understood as a human innovation. So it is empirical. When you look at something that is billions of years older than you, and saying that by comparison it would require a creator as well? That is not empirical. so the comparison cannot be made. I do not think tat neurological disorders can be applied with either theist or atheist. IN that it simply a result of how you analyze the world around you. This concept is not logically sound.
As well if god is going to damn me for not believing in in him he shouldn't have had neurological disorders that would predispose me to blasphemy. That would not be a just god. So this concept is not theologically sound as well.
I as well want to comment on the concept of people with aspergers syndrome being atheist? Ok, even if it is true. just like square is a rectangle though a rectangle is not a square. just because some people with neurological disorders are atheist does not mean that atheist have neurological disorders.
Consider this concept debunked.
well when one sees sun, one does also understand that something created that...not does atheist disagree with it?..i dont think so..no one can disagree or debate on something which is real ..(read between the lines too paar)...one may not say sun doesnot exist...can any one?..one may also never say sun was wrongly interpretated...nor one can say my sun is better than your sun..
coming to your question..well who says sun was not created out of something..now whether that was intelligent force or non intelligent force, whether that force did it with full knowledge or force was plain non living entity , whether that force has emotions like want to be pleased , wants to judge , wants to get angry or that force is auto unit which cannot feel...that is where difference comes...
so rationally it is only conclusive that sun was created out of something..rest is speculation...one may say god created it or one may say natural forces created it..etc etc..all speculations till complete process of creation gets realized...
Instead of enlightening us what something sun was created of; please tell us who created sun, to start with.
Thanks
Paar, who created God? And if you answer that God has always existed, why cant that extend to matter?
"Who" is a human concept. People always say something like "where there's a table, there's a carpenter", a metaphor for creator-creation, in other words, the table would be the Universe and the carpenter god. Well, it doesn't end there. Where there's a carpenter, there is/was a mother! And a father, and two more for each of them, and so on.
Furthermore, creation as we speak of it, that is, art, manufacturing, etc., is not really creating in the literal sense. A carpenter doesn't create a table, he just rearranges elements that were already there, in a certain way. As Sagan said: "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe".
The same happened with the Sun on a much larger scale, but without a "who" behind it. Just lots of hydrogen and gravity.
Who created the natural forces; which created sun and why did the natural forces create sun and for what purpose? Please identify the " the natural forces".
Do you see where you're going with this?
You ask, who created the Sun. You've been told natural forces. Then you ask who created the natural forces, or who used them. Let's assume someone says god.
Now give me a logical reason to stop there. Why not ask "who created god?" next?
The natural forces are gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak.
paar you are a bore
tedious ill informed unintelligent
full of self righteous bullshit
go to bed
@paar every one be it be religious or non religious person knows that sun was created out of big bang...sun is also one of stars like many stars created out of big bang...now comes question about what caused big bang..so master of physics hawking says law of physics are capable enough to create such big bang on its own...butg religion believes that some supernatural who is called god caused big bang...now logically comes question about who created god...well religion fails to answer that..god was always there is the answer...now this answer too is illogical one..it is like defining a constant..science doesnot have complete answer too...so my friend it is all speculation...buddha and vedanta gives better picture than popular religions in this...from something to nothing to something..for 100 to 0 to 100...what we call nothing is cumilation of energies which would more likely to manifest in form of big bang...does that need intelligent force?..not necessary...i hope you got my point of view...
Hi friend pisean282311
[21:31] Do not the disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass, then We opened them out? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=30
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
When will you learn, quoting scripture from any pathetic religious book is not good enough. It's based on conjecture at best.
Please, try to learn. I know it difficult with your limited ability, but do try.
I think you alsl have to learn; it is not prohibited for you. Is it?
hi paar...forget unbeliever , even believers dont see what you wrote..they believe...they can't see...it is concept...true or false cannot be confirmed...
Read more scientific books, I recommend reading The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow
paarsurrey, you talk through my arse. You have the depth and intellectual capacity of a boiled crab. Completely and hopelessly brain washed. Your mind is closed to any and every view that has a slight tinge of (apparently irrational) god-doubt to it. You are beyond redemption. I feel for anyone who is forced to experience you on a regular basis. Having said that, you are amusing and provocative. You are also a victim so you deserve some pity. Keep 'em coming. I wish you well. Dog bless you.
[21:31] Do not the disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass, then We opened them out? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=30
Paarsurrey, couldn't someone say you have a disorder?? I mean think about it... you put faith in the so-called Messiah of 1835 who even your own Islam people know is fake! He plagarised his writings from a well-known author yet previously claimed ALL his writings came straight from God. Then he swore God himself taught him latin... but his work is full of grammer erros and wrong translations! He then admitted he used a dictionary... LOL!!!
The Qu'ran says not to blaspheme any Prophet of God or it is punishable by death! Yet this so-called Messiah of yours blasphemed against Jesus! It's in his writings! And the Islam people called him out on this! This is why your Islamic people deny him! Because he was fake! And everyone but you seems to realize this!
"I mean think about it... you put faith in the so-called Messiah of 1835 who even your own Islam people know is fake! He plagarised his writings from a well-known author"
The bible isn't exactly original either...
And I don't know if you did this on purpose, but I think it's spelled 'grammar' and 'errors'.
"How do you want to bash Parrsurry"? would have been the appropriate title for this thread
I think he does far more harm to himself with his innumerable rants.
He doesn't have an original thought and he keeps quoting other' work.
He's the best recruiter for atheists everywhere.
It is just ignorance that people are happy to live with
perhaps psychological. Atheism means not having any authority to answer for, so it seems it would be a first choice for non-conformists and those with low self-esteem.
It comes down to what a person believes-as a person thinks so is he. Even the devil knows that the most high God exists but oh well. Everyone will know the truth when this earth comes to an end. Jesus is Lord and the devil knows that too!!
The problem is that many "atheists" are actually anti-religionists. This is a whole different mindset.
There is no need to use long words in these titles, it will put of most of the kristians from understanding and posting !
Atheism is like a mind in a freshly programmed new computer - it works better, faster and is a joy to be with. Religion is a virus that infects the computer, reducing its processing ability, sending out illiterate messages to all your friends and putting up those really irritating glittery flashy semi-pornographic bits of proselyte every three minutes.
Try Godbot - it can sift through all your systems and remove such malware in only a few years - I scanned mine recently and found over 1367 bits of drivel, 231 vicious attitudes, 456 moralising dimwits, and 5 lying cheating smileys.
ever notice as soon as the post turns against paar he runs hides and starts a new post.
as soon as paar is asked a question he runs and hides!
as son as people start to question paar he hides, paar cannot even defend what paar states!!
SO AGAIN PAARS POST CLOSSED GO START A NEW POST SO PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE WITH YOU AGAIN PAAR
I don't believe the sun has existed always, no atheist does. We believe it came into being as the result of the Big Bang, as everything else in the universe did.
No, not believing myths is not a disorder, believing them may be though.
hey believing myth is natural and super hit...from religious gods to superman/batman to harry potter...it does give 2000% return of investment to people who invest their money on it...
Hey!!! Harry Potter does exist and so does Voldemort!!!
I have 7 Blu-rays that prove it!!!
ya and heard that prophecy of harry potter was written in some scriptures found in spata..the book is believed to be 5.8k years old...
One sees a computer with all the systems in it; one thinks it has been manufactured by some factory; one does not think even for a moment that it has existed always and has not been made by anybody.
If an Atheist Skeptic Agnostic sees Sun in the skies above and thinks it existed always and was not made by the Creator at a point in time; I think he is not rational.
you dont believe in reading do you?....only rational thing which one can conclude by seeing sun is that it was created...that is it...who created is speculation...do you get that or do you need to have irrational answers to it...there are many and religious god is one of them...
Well never seen it in the DSM4 as a disorder, but I'll let you believe what you want too! lol I don't think an Atheist qualifies!
LOL.. By far the funniest, most naive question I have read.
You say God created it, I say I want to figure out why it is there. And if we can prove it is 1 guy that watches over us, so be it.. Too bad there are other very real possibilities..
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