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   mom101posted 13 years ago

   Do you believe women should be preachers.

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      Several Ninjasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      only if their hot.

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         starme77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         what ya want em to do - preach in a bikini

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      frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why shouldn't they be? Rather sexist to suppose that a woman wouldn't deliver as much value in any job as a man could.

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         kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yup, got that right....

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            mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I agree wholeheartadly.
            
            I live in the south, and it is "frowned upon" here.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Personally, I think...not when there's enough Christian men  available who will fulfill the necessary role.
      But in today's society, seems the mission field is so large, reaching even into every nook and cranny, that it's necessary for women as well as men to put on their Armor and pick up their Bibles and yes, preach the Gospel of repentance and Salvation.

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   Bill Manningposted 13 years ago

   Actually I always thought a woman would be better at being a priest than a man. After all they are generally more compassionate and understanding than most men.
   
   However since I don't believe in a god I also think it's a pointless occupation.

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   pisean282311posted 13 years ago

   ofcourse yes....why not?..

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   J.R. Smithposted 13 years ago

   The bible's stand on a woman's position is quite clear. The reason it is not so widely accepted comes from scripture. check out 1 corinthians 14. women are to keep silent in the churches. The man is the head of the home and should be the representative of the church. It's in the bible.

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      Bill Manningposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, so religion is like a men's only social club, cool. 

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         pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         

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         J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Not exactly. God thinks quite highly of women. Consider Mary. He thought enough of women to allow his son's birth. A good wife and mother are very esteemed positions in the eyes of God.there are several women in the bible that are spoken of with very high regard.

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            pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            interestingly muslim scholars and bible scholar agree on something

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               J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               almost. Bible teaches that a man should adore his wife,submit to her, and cherish her as a gift from God. Not sure muslims share this view.

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                  pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  well Islam scholars believe that islam gives more right to women than its rivals like Judaism,Christianity ..coming from same region ,it is understandable that similar mind set would prevail more or less...so preaching doesnot seemed to be allowed in islam too..
                  
                  P.S : Paar correct me ,if i am wrong...

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            china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Would have caused quite a stir if some god had got a man to do that job for him

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               pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               you never know..all is possible with god...

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            God raped a married woman and got her pregnant.

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               pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Interestingly virgin birth is not new concept...many is past have been told to have born through virgin mother..jesus might be 8 or 9th in the list...guess this concept has been popular in human race since long...

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               J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Wow.

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                  Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Why so surprised? Look at the facts of this myth.
                  
                  Mary was Joseph's wife. Correct?
                  God was not married to Mary. Correct?
                  God impregnated Mary. Correct?
                  
                  The facts speak for themselves.

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                     J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     They are facts when backing up your opinion,hunh? Funny how those facts are useless when a believer tries to use them. How can you prove Mary was unwilling, especially when God sent a messenger telling her she would bear the messiah? Who would deny God?

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                        Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Mary was already married, she isn't supposed to be "willing". If you have a wife, is she "willing" to have sex with someone else other than you? That wouldn't say very much for your marriage.
                        
                        Denying god? How do you know it wasn't Satan who impregnated her in the guise of an angel?
                        
                        Why did god chose a married woman, why not an unmarried woman? Doesn't his impregnation of a married woman contradict the bible itself? 

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               Woman Of Courageposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Beelzedad, God did not rape a married woman. God is a spirit. A spirit does not have a physical body. Mary's pregnancy was supernatural and it was spiritual. It would be best for you to ask about scriptures you don't understand in the bible.

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                  china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  
                  
                  Yes Beelzedad you better go ask someone to read them for you so you can understand what they tell you they mean !

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                  pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  @woc curious question...if pregnancy was spiritual..jesus should have been spirit and not a body...how did he manage to have body then?

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                     Woman Of Courageposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     pisean, God ways and thoughts is not our ways. It is not our responsibility to determine that Jesus should have been a spirit. It was in God's plan for Jesus to be born with a body.

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                  Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Do you actually read what you write? Do you realize that makes no sense whatsoever?

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                     Woman Of Courageposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Beelzedad, Nothing spiritual does not make sense to you anyway. You are stumbling around in darkness. Hopefully you will see the light very soon. Take care.

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                        Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        When it is obvious that the spiritual world cannot exist and it is only through the empty words of believers that it does exist, to make any sense of it would be a loss of sanity.
                        
                        
                        
                        Once again, the believer feels it necessary to oblige their superiority over others with vacuous statements of condescending ignorance in some vain attempt to have others believe as they do.

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The bible was written by misogynists.

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         china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Nah !!   it was definately a Mr ogyinist   !!!

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      frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I can imagine that's a directive most men would like their women to adopt beyond the hallowed walls of a church. The home, when out shopping, when the TV is on ...
      
      Just saying

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         J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The bible suggests how a man treats his wife is a measure of himself. Any man worth his salt embraces his bride's thoughts,feelings and opinions. It is often abused,though.

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            china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Its nice that the bible allows women to have thoughts that her man may or may not embrace.  Maybe every bible should come with a complimentary club and animal skin loincloth.

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               pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               

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               J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Try reading it. The bible promotes love for your wife. You speak of absolute chauvinism,where the bible has high regard for a proper woman.

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                  Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Yet, god promotes the impregnation of someones wife. Quite the contradiction.

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                     J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     You bring up a very good point. The angel also appeared to Joseph in dream. There were many reasons. Jesus had to be of the bloodline in prophesy.Joseph had to be the father since he was in David's bloodline. Mary had to be a virgin. She had to be Married. A pregnant woman with no husband was considered a whore and subject to stoning. Her pregnancy was supernatural and should not be viewed as typical conception.

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                        Aficionadaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        First, to the original forum question:  Some of the best preachers/pastors I have ever heard were women.  Acceptance or not (of them) depends a lot on the specific denomination and somewhat on the region of the country or the world.  There is one passage in the NT that refers to someone's (I forget whose - I'll look it up, if you wish) daughters as "evangelists" - in other words, preachers.  But a lot of fundamentalist branches like to overlook that scripture, or interpret it in other ways.
                        
                        
                        
                        This is the first time in my long life and long experience in religious studies of hearing the she was or was supposed to be married at the time of conception!  KJV says Mary was "espoused" i.e. engaged but with the commitment level of a marriage.  That's why Joseph considered "putting her away privately" (like a divorce).  The social practice of espousal was totally different from our practice of being engaged, but was also not the equivalent of marriage.  They did later get married; but at the time of conception and I'm pretty sure at the time of Jesus' birth, they had not yet officially married.  Do you have any references for your statement that she "had to be married"?
                        
                        @Beelzedad:  Why would Mary say that she was "blessed among women" if she were unwilling?

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                           Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Then, you have no problem if your wife conceived a child and it wasn't yours? Your wife will also be willing and blessed among women, too?

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                        Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        So, a married woman who conceives a child that is not from her husband is not a whore? What is she then? If you are married, would you want your wife to have someone else child? Seriously.

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            frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I know. And they don't have to be religious to be abusive either

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         DoorMattnomoreposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         its quite true. I grew up in a house that fully endorsed this life. "Because..the Bible told us to!"

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            pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            well i personally believe religion is misused by men to get their way as far as role of women is concerned...

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               DoorMattnomoreposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I believe religion is created by men to misuse the intent of the Bible.

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                  china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Amen !!   Hallelua !!  praise reason and thinking ***
                  
                  Of course it is, along with the creation of the bible to misuse the intent of ancient thinking.

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                     DoorMattnomoreposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     My rational thinking is about gone now...haven't slept in a couple of days so..I'll be around. have a great night all. Im off to funny stuff. I stand by what I said before tho.

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                        mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        gn. rest well

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                  pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  @DoorMattnomore agreed...i agree to it...if religion was made in today's time , i am sure we wont see so much gender bias in religion...

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   starme77posted 13 years ago

   o.k which bible? see ... cause there are like over 300 different versions of just the christian bible alone and they all say different things - so which bible ya goin by?

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      J.R. Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I go by the KJV. It's hands-down the most preserved word of God.

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         mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         J.R. Smith, I too go by the KJV.
         
         Could you tell my why when Peter went to Jesus' tomb and cried out for Him why was he not answered? Why, when Mary went to the tomb Jesus spoke to her AND instructed HER to go tell............
         
         I am sure you have read this, but if you would like I will give you the book, chapter and verse.
         
         The Bible is the inerrant Word of God, Rightly divided. This means, that you should know that some of it was spoken in parables while some was spoken as instruction. One has to study and KNOW the difference.
         
         Here is another great parable of course. You know the story about the rich man getting into Heaven. and the scripture that says it is easier for a rich man to go thru the eye of a needle that it is to enter Heaven. ......It amazes me that most people actually think it is referring to an actual needle.
         
         As far as the silence thing. If one were to study they would learn that during the time that was written, men and women sat on different sides of the isle when attending church. When the preacher would preach it was common for the women to talk across the isle to their husbands, this in turn caused havoc on the sermon, and the preacher simply asked the women to wait until they got home to ask their husbands as to keep order during the service.
         
         I firmly believe that a christian man should be the head of the house.

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            Druid Dudeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            My house had no man to head it. Whaddyawant, sit around and wait? Sounds pretty Christian. Sit and wait for the perfect man. Women should preach. After all, the whole pedophile priest thing would have been somewhat different.

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               mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Druid, in this house it is just my son and myself. Trust me, it is EXTREMLY hard on a woman to be "it".
               
               Perfect man? Doesn't exsist.
               
               I like it when people actually think. Yes, women should preach. As a christian, it is their duty, as it the duty of each christian.
               
               Oh and I am positive that somebody will come up with "ok so what you are saying is that since Jesus did not speak to Peter that men should keep silent"..........

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   Nikki D. Felderposted 13 years ago

   I know a plenty!  I believe in what the word of God declares.  In Him there is no respect of person.  Women were used back then and we've got to admit God uses whom he will.  He's used a plenty of women in this day in age.  Not all are used over the pulpit, but in schools, in missions, in slum alleys witnessing, in the White House!

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   Disappearingheadposted 13 years ago

   Absolutely. There's no reason why a woman cannot lead a church and I just think all those Bishops in the Church of England should get over themselves. When Paul told women to keep silent and said a woman should not be head over a man, he was talking from a cultural basis. however, taking his other comments on women into account, even he would have been considered liberating to women in his time.
   
   This decree on Women's place in church was entirely His opinion anyway. But the world has moved on. The West is not a Middle Eastern society anymore, and there was never any commandment from God or Jesus to tell us that women should keep some lower place. All are equal before God.
   
   But please ladies, if you are going to preach, please don't put half a can of hairspray in your hair or dress up like those power women you see on God TV. It's a crap look.

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      SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ...you mean like this?...and lighten up on the mascara too!...
      
      

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         SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         ...i think this is her son....he needs to back off on the make-up too!
         
         

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