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   OpinionDuckposted 14 years ago

   Something to think about before you try to make sense of this subject
   What do we really know about Heaven?
   
   ...Where is it?
   
   .....Who or what is there?
   
   .........What will I do if I get there?
   
   ............Will I remember my earthly life?
   
   ..................What will I look like as a spirit?
   
   ........................Will I continue as myself or as another entity?

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's all just felder garb.

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      kessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      All your questions have answers, except if you expect them to be defined by the things you see, feel, smell, hear etc you would always go astray because you would then be limiting their reality.
      
      
      
      Heaven is a place not limited to by specific location cause it is every where and even nowhere.
      
      Heaven is that place which contain every imaginable thing.
      
      You would have to do absolutely nothing to get there, cause you are already there but have not yet realized it.
      
      There would be no need to remember anything in heaven cause all things are already with you.
      
      As a Spirit you can look exactly as you desire to be.
      
      You need not change your identity, instead you would just be absolutely sure of your present Identity.
      
      
      This is the unlimited nature of Heaven, one need just to realize it. And when this realization comes you can then say the kingdom of heaven  is come oln earth and it's in you and with you.
      
      All one need is truth and when Truth comes you would realize that you were already engulf in it within and without.

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         OpinionDuckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry, but these aren't the answers to the questions.
         
         These answers don't have any connection to anything here.
         
         There are many people here that don't have to do anything.
         If you can imagine it then it isn't heaven.
         People on earth morn their dead, but there is no need as there is no connection to them in Heaven according to your answer.
         As a spirit you would be nothing.
         
         This is as vague and ambiguous as Genesis.
         
         In any case thanks for your answers.

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            kessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            No fuss... there are those who would understand even  without so many worlds.....

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               OpinionDuckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               You are right about that, but I am not one of them.
               
               Thanks again,

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                  couturepopcafeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Disregarding the word 'heaven', as it tends to have a religious connotation, the concept is akin to the old saying, "Who feels it knows it."  This is the nature of being.  Kess answers all the questions.  Where - within you, here.  What - anything you can imagine.  Who is there - anyone you can imagine.  Remembering - spirit remembers all that it desires to remember.  Spirit - purity, the absence of affliction as manifested in ignorance, egoism, attachment, aversion, and the desire to cling to life. 
                  
                  The cause of the avoidable (affliction) is the superimposition of the external world onto the unseen world.  Spirit is pure consciousness.  But though it is pure, it sees through the mind and is identified by ego as being only in the mind.  The very existence of the seen is for the sake of the seer.  It is for the distinct recognition of the objective world as well as for the recognition of the distinct nature of the seer.  The seer must dissassociate from the seen.  This is known as discrimination.  It is a means of obtaining spiritual liberation.

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         Home Girlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         What truth?

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            kessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Truth is known by the knower alone...
            
            and Truth is the only proof of itself

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Enough to know that the word "Heaven" is a metaphor Jesus used in his parable teachings.
      Earth.
      Presently, 6.6 Billion humans.
      This is irrelevant, because your actions are always your actions.
      This can only be answered with conjecture based on myth. Once your dead, have complete loss of consciousness, you're done.
      Another question that can only be answered with conjecture based on myth. There is no proof a spirit or soul actually exists. "Spirit" and "Soul" should only be used when describing someone's actions. Nothing more.
      Another question for conjecture based on myth. Complete loss of consciousness means there is no awareness of existence. To say consciousness is elevated to a higher realm after death is conjecture, unproven myth.

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      OpinionDuckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I read generalization and thoughts but I don't see any answers to these questions.

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Your questions are irrelevant to the true concept of heaven and hell.
      
      Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.
      
      Please correct your concept.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Read a Bible.
      It will tell you all that we're given to know about this.

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         couturepopcafeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Brenda - Actually, with respect, the way I understand the teachings, we are to attain all, everything, even the knowledge which is God, the center, the eye.  The metaphor 'heaven' is the convergence of all knowledge separated from desire, purity of mind, the knowledge of why and how of existence confirmed in non-possessiveness, santification and the removal of impurities, communion with Lord in the form most admired.

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      Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The first several questions posed have one answer: LOOK AROUND. The last question has a surprise answer. If you would like to read that answer, email me. Peace

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         pennyofheavenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Very nice!

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   Home Girlposted 14 years ago

   If heaven is everywhere why bother to be good? Go and kill and rob everybody you meet?  or even better - don't do anything, just live in a cardboad under the bridge and wait for heavenly manna!

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      Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Then what could have been the purpose? You have missed a vital clue.

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.

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   Home Girlposted 14 years ago

   Are you saying that by personal conviction or God just told you that?

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   It is mentioned in Quran.
   
   You may get it even from the first chapter of Quran consisting of seven short verses.

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      Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      what verse lists the part about the multiple virgins we get?

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         Hotplateposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I think that part was left out of my copy, because I've searched long and hard for that one.

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            Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            i thought i found it once.. but it turns out picked up a copy of Penthouse letters instead

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               brotheryochananposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               that's quran.
               
               according to the bible we become like the angels and are not given in marriage.. that doesn't mean we just don't marry. When talking about flesh, male and female that part doesn't exist. We have no need of a single partner. We have no need of public toilets; as we are in spiritual bodies we neither eat nor sleep nor procreate nor function as our fleshly bodies did.

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                  Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  so the reward for getting to Heaven is losing my penis???
                  
                  I'm a Christian, but that's really going to hurt our marketing plan and sales pitch when going up Islam's virgin incentive

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               pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               @greekone

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   Home Girlposted 14 years ago

   Thanks, but I prefer science books now.

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You mentioned of God; and God is not a subject of science; science deals only in things physical and the Creator-God is only attributive.
      
      Nevermind

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         pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         every subject comes under jurisdiction of science ...

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   Home Girlposted 14 years ago

   That God is not subject of science I strongly suspected.

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   AEvansposted 14 years ago

   Read the book "Embraced by the light". It will clearly explain it. When mom passed this past August I actually felt and seen her spirit move from her body. Heaven is a beautiful place I have had the opportunity to see it myself. I can't explain it but I know it is there. "Embraced by the light" reassured me that what my experience that happened when I was young was a blessing to see.
   
   FYI: mom's spirit was clear I can't explain it, but if you get a bottle of bubbles and look through them it will look like your spirit which is clear.

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      couturepopcafeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Awesome.

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   Home Girlposted 14 years ago

   That's why so many people like beer and champagne - a lot of spirit in it. Well, I always knew that spiritual life is not for me. I'll stick to my carrot juice.

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    logic,commonsenseposted 14 years ago

    I'm with you Greek!
    If there are no hummers in heaven, I'm not sure I wanna go.  Talkin about the truck!

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    Home Girlposted 14 years ago

    I think I should apologize for my comment before AEvans. To lose one's parent is a tragedy. And joking there was a bad taste. I wasn't thinking, sorry.

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       couturepopcafeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Awesome.

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    paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

    Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.

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    melporposted 14 years ago

    I think we need to ask ourselves these questions:
    
    If there is a Heaven, if you die at 90 are you going to be a 90 year old man there?
    
    Are you going to live forever without aging or are you going to remain a 90 year old man or do you revert to your younger self?
    
    Heaven must be a place full of people from the last 250,000 years?
    
    Will we know our family or will our memories be erased?
    
    If there is Heaven why has anyone come back to tell about it?
    
    If there is a Heaven with eternal life why would you want to live for ever, life will get pretty boring eventually would you think so?
    
    If there is a Heaven you would see your entire family tree if Heaven is what people believe it is. Think about?
    
    If there is a Heaven how would you get there? Your body is in the ground decomposing and your consciousness ceased to exist after you die. You only have consciousness when you are alive.
    
    I can go on and on with this. I am coming to the conclusion Heaven is just a  mythical place started by cultures thousands of years ago because people tried to explain what happen to them once they die.

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       pennyofheavenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Why do we have to ask all those questions when now is all we have to work with?

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    paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

    Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.
    
    [89:28] And thou, O soul at peace!
    [89:29] Return to thy Lord well pleased with Him and He well pleased with thee.
    [89:30] So enter thou among My chosen servants,
    [89:31] And enter thou My Garden*.
    
    http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=28
    * Heaven

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    Home Girlposted 14 years ago

    Some people never learn...

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