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does Jesus think his father idiot?

  1. profile image0
    jomineposted 7 years ago

    if not why he preached against his father like love your enemies when his father asked "an eye for an eye"?

    1. getitrite profile image78
      getitriteposted 7 years agoin reply to this



      Do you mean his ego maniacal, psychopathic, bloodthirsty father from the Old Testament?

      1. pennyofheaven profile image79
        pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Haha

    2. Woman Of Courage profile image60
      Woman Of Courageposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      jomine, Jesus never preached against God.

      1. pennyofheaven profile image79
        pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        So what was the intended meaning for an eye for eye in your understanding?

        1. Woman Of Courage profile image60
          Woman Of Courageposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          An eye for an eye biblical meaning is to reap what we sow whether it's good or bad. Reaping what we sow does not mean God does not love us. This is not an opposition to God's word stating we should love our enemies.

          1. pennyofheaven profile image79
            pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I agree.

            1. Rishy Rich profile image74
              Rishy Richposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              And once again the Holy Ass is saved by our superhero "Interpretation". Sometimes I just wonder did those primitive people understood these true meanings of Holy words? Even we the people of modern world get confused by the context & interpretation of these special verses from Bible & Quran, which by the way, apparently seems pretty biased to me roll

              1. Rishy Rich profile image74
                Rishy Richposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                A wise guy once told me, "when the Bible or Quran says BEAT YOUR WIFE, It actually meant to Love your wife really hard at night!!"

                I guess he was right too roll

                1. pisean282311 profile image62
                  pisean282311posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  lol

              2. kirstenblog profile image77
                kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I honestly wonder the same thing. This is my biggest reason for following my own path, at least if it leads someplace bad I have no one else to blame but me. Not likely to do any good blaming long dead dudes if we make the wrong interpretation or hear the wrong stories or whatever. See I would rather not follow or lead Jesus or any other deity, I would prefer walk beside them as a friend.

                Do not lead me for I may not follow
                Do not follow me for I may not lead
                Walk beside me and be my friend

                1. pennyofheaven profile image79
                  pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Make sense to me.

              3. pennyofheaven profile image79
                pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this



                Who is saved by interpretation in your mind? What is this who being saved from?

                What is your true meaning of an eye for an eye?

  2. pennyofheaven profile image79
    pennyofheavenposted 7 years ago

    What do you mean by that?

  3. SpanStar profile image61
    SpanStarposted 7 years ago

    With a question like that, I'm certain you're not interested in hearing my answer but this for those who are.

    There is no conflict between Jesus and God.  Jesus himself said he came to save the world because his father sent him.  He said he does whatever the father tells him and he doesn't do his own will.

    1. Woman Of Courage profile image60
      Woman Of Courageposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!

    2. pennyofheaven profile image79
      pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps that is what the original poster is asking. If Jesus says love your enemies and God is saying an eye for an eye, is this not in opposition to what God advocates? I see it differently so there is no point in me answering that question. Can you?

      1. SpanStar profile image61
        SpanStarposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I'm not a preacher but here what I think,
        God would deal with mankind on their own level at times and men at that time believed in violences so just like women had a lower position in life God dealt with people based on their belief but as mankind became more mature God decided this eye-for-eye thing is now going to have to go.

        1. Rafini profile image86
          Rafiniposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          are you trying to say mankind is in it's teenage years and has quite some time to go before reaching the childbearing range of thirtysomething?

        2. pennyofheaven profile image79
          pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Oh so when Jesus said love your enemies "eye for an eye" no longer applied so Jesus wasn't undermining God.

        3. Pandoras Box profile image65
          Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          So what we read in the bible at any given time may not exactly be accurate of God's view, but is more a record of man's view of God's view?

          1. pennyofheaven profile image79
            pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I would like to add...at the time of viewing?

    3. pisean282311 profile image62
      pisean282311posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @spanstar but world was already saved....with or without jesus...why jesus came 2k years back considering world is much older and humans are there since 0.2 million years...if he was interested in saving the world, shouldn't he be here right now..considering how strong information flows..his words would have made more sense and covered more people ..

      1. kirstenblog profile image77
        kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Well you know what Gods are like, always coming late if they come at all tongue

        1. pisean282311 profile image62
          pisean282311posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          ya and avoiding difficult times tongue...if god would have come today he could have had twitter account or facebook ac or own channel ...his words would have been telecast lived...god mistimed his coming...

          1. Pandoras Box profile image65
            Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            So what yer saying is that Jesus was prematurely ejaculated into the world. By God.

            1. pisean282311 profile image62
              pisean282311posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              well let us see what purpose generally messenger of god or god himself has when he visits earth...to establish way of life...now we have books for that which are said to be divine...do we have single book ...answer is no...so for god to reach out to maximum people ..what would have been ideal time...current era or thousands of years back....today god can make use of all established mediums to reach out and solve how to live thing for once and all...what say?

              1. Pandoras Box profile image65
                Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                The little bugger couldn't keep it in his pants for a mere 2000 years longer? Maybe Mary was like the last virgin that ever was. No virgins of age after the year 0000. (We've all been lying ever since then.)

  4. getitrite profile image78
    getitriteposted 7 years ago

    lol lol lol lol

  5. profile image0
    jomineposted 7 years ago
  6. Pandoras Box profile image65
    Pandoras Boxposted 7 years ago

    In all seriousness, I agree with you, and it's one of the many well thought-out reasons why I am not a believer.

    The message -whatever message- should be openly available and clearly audible, thoroughly consistant and completely unambiguous.

    The truth shouldn't be so dark and twisted. Instinct alone tells us that what is handed out as truth cannot possibly be right.

    1. pennyofheaven profile image79
      pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps you are meant to read the messages with instinct.

      Any writer has their own style and sometimes the personality is splashed across the page when instinct is involved in the analysis process.

      After all the writers of the bible lived in a totally different era to us.

      If you can get the message inherent in the texts they can be very useful...or not in some instances.

  7. Jerami profile image70
    Jeramiposted 7 years ago

    kirstenblog wrote ...

       Do not lead me for I may not follow
       Do not follow me for I may not lead
       Walk beside me and be my friend


    - - - - - - - -

      That is what this entity wants
    It lowers itself in order to do that.
    But when we do not listen ... 
    He doesn't feel like much of a friend.


      And we soon find ourself walking alone.

    1. pennyofheaven profile image79
      pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Are we alone as we think though? Perhaps we have just closed our eyes and ears? More to the point though it is probably our hearts.

      1. Jerami profile image70
        Jeramiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I'm sorry it took so long to reply.
        I was attempting to make my post on a different thread.

           Kept getting kicked off Internet (three times).  seemed like I wasn't supposed to post it. 
        - - - -

           No I don't think we are ever as alone as we think that we are.

  8. pennyofheaven profile image79
    pennyofheavenposted 7 years ago

    Yes. Getting kicked off several times made me wonder the other night too.

    1. Jerami profile image70
      Jeramiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      It happens to me a lot.  Especially when it seems as though I've given an unrestrained opinion.

         Most of the time I relent.  But not always.

      1. pennyofheaven profile image79
        pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Haha I hear you!

 
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