does Jesus think his father idiot?

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   jomineposted 12 years ago

   if not why he preached against his father like love your enemies when his father asked "an eye for an eye"?

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      getitriteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Do you mean his ego maniacal, psychopathic, bloodthirsty father from the Old Testament?

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         pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Haha

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      Woman Of Courageposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      jomine, Jesus never preached against God.

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         pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         So what was the intended meaning for an eye for eye in your understanding?

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            Woman Of Courageposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            An eye for an eye biblical meaning is to reap what we sow whether it's good or bad. Reaping what we sow does not mean God does not love us. This is not an opposition to God's word stating we should love our enemies.

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               pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I agree.

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                  Rishy Richposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  And once again the Holy Ass is saved by our superhero "Interpretation". Sometimes I just wonder did those primitive people understood these true meanings of Holy words? Even we the people of modern world get confused by the context & interpretation of these special verses from Bible & Quran, which by the way, apparently seems pretty biased to me

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                     Rishy Richposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     A wise guy once told me, "when the Bible or Quran says BEAT YOUR WIFE, It actually meant to Love your wife really hard at night!!"
                     
                     I guess he was right too

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                        pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        

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                     kirstenblogposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I honestly wonder the same thing. This is my biggest reason for following my own path, at least if it leads someplace bad I have no one else to blame but me. Not likely to do any good blaming long dead dudes if we make the wrong interpretation or hear the wrong stories or whatever. See I would rather not follow or lead Jesus or any other deity, I would prefer walk beside them as a friend.
                     
                     Do not lead me for I may not follow
                     Do not follow me for I may not lead
                     Walk beside me and be my friend

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                        pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Make sense to me.

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                     pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     
                     Who is saved by interpretation in your mind? What is this who being saved from?
                     
                     What is your true meaning of an eye for an eye?

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   pennyofheavenposted 12 years ago

   What do you mean by that?

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   SpanStarposted 12 years ago

   With a question like that, I'm certain you're not interested in hearing my answer but this for those who are.
   
   There is no conflict between Jesus and God.  Jesus himself said he came to save the world because his father sent him.  He said he does whatever the father tells him and he doesn't do his own will.

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      Woman Of Courageposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps that is what the original poster is asking. If Jesus says love your enemies and God is saying an eye for an eye, is this not in opposition to what God advocates? I see it differently so there is no point in me answering that question. Can you?

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         SpanStarposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'm not a preacher but here what I think,
         God would deal with mankind on their own level at times and men at that time believed in violences so just like women had a lower position in life God dealt with people based on their belief but as mankind became more mature God decided this eye-for-eye thing is now going to have to go.

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            Rafiniposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            are you trying to say mankind is in it's teenage years and has quite some time to go before reaching the childbearing range of thirtysomething?

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            pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Oh so when Jesus said love your enemies "eye for an eye" no longer applied so Jesus wasn't undermining God.

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            Pandoras Boxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            So what we read in the bible at any given time may not exactly be accurate of God's view, but is more a record of man's view of God's view?

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               pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I would like to add...at the time of viewing?

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      pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      @spanstar but world was already saved....with or without jesus...why jesus came 2k years back considering world is much older and humans are there since 0.2 million years...if he was interested in saving the world, shouldn't he be here right now..considering how strong information flows..his words would have made more sense and covered more people ..

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         kirstenblogposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Well you know what Gods are like, always coming late if they come at all

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            pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            ya and avoiding difficult times ...if god would have come today he could have had twitter account or facebook ac or own channel ...his words would have been telecast lived...god mistimed his coming...

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               Pandoras Boxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               So what yer saying is that Jesus was prematurely ejaculated into the world. By God.

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                  pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  well let us see what purpose generally messenger of god or god himself has when he visits earth...to establish way of life...now we have books for that which are said to be divine...do we have single book ...answer is no...so for god to reach out to maximum people ..what would have been ideal time...current era or thousands of years back....today god can make use of all established mediums to reach out and solve how to live thing for once and all...what say?

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                     Pandoras Boxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     The little bugger couldn't keep it in his pants for a mere 2000 years longer? Maybe Mary was like the last virgin that ever was. No virgins of age after the year 0000. (We've all been lying ever since then.)

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   getitriteposted 12 years ago

   

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   jomineposted 12 years ago

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   Pandoras Boxposted 12 years ago

   In all seriousness, I agree with you, and it's one of the many well thought-out reasons why I am not a believer.
   
   The message -whatever message- should be openly available and clearly audible, thoroughly consistant and completely unambiguous.
   
   The truth shouldn't be so dark and twisted. Instinct alone tells us that what is handed out as truth cannot possibly be right.

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps you are meant to read the messages with instinct.
      
      Any writer has their own style and sometimes the personality is splashed across the page when instinct is involved in the analysis process.
      
      After all the writers of the bible lived in a totally different era to us.
      
      If you can get the message inherent in the texts they can be very useful...or not in some instances.

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   Jeramiposted 12 years ago

   kirstenblog wrote ...
   
      Do not lead me for I may not follow
      Do not follow me for I may not lead
      Walk beside me and be my friend
   
   
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     That is what this entity wants
   It lowers itself in order to do that.
   But when we do not listen ... 
   He doesn't feel like much of a friend.
   
   
     And we soon find ourself walking alone.

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Are we alone as we think though? Perhaps we have just closed our eyes and ears? More to the point though it is probably our hearts.

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         Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'm sorry it took so long to reply.
         I was attempting to make my post on a different thread.
         
            Kept getting kicked off Internet (three times).  seemed like I wasn't supposed to post it. 
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            No I don't think we are ever as alone as we think that we are.

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   pennyofheavenposted 12 years ago

   Yes. Getting kicked off several times made me wonder the other night too.

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      Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It happens to me a lot.  Especially when it seems as though I've given an unrestrained opinion.
      
         Most of the time I relent.  But not always.

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         pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Haha I hear you!

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