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does mind, love, justice, energy "exists"?

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    jomineposted 7 years ago

    exist- something that got physical presence
    is it that all the above are concepts and so does not exist except in our brain?

    1. Castlepaloma profile image78
      Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No, nobel prize for you.

      1. profile image0
        jomineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        if you ever care to think i will take it as a nobel prize

        1. Castlepaloma profile image78
          Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Ha ha. you would be lucky to get the raspberry award.

    2. Jerami profile image72
      Jeramiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      We truly must think of ourselves as supreme GODS;  to believe that anything that we can not hold in our hands, and know with our own understanding does not exist.

        How utterly GRAND we must be.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image61
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I see you are having trouble grasping the difference between physical reality and a concept, Jerami. It seems to make you angry that some people can tell the difference. Why is that?

        Would you like me to explain why a bird exists, but love is a concept and does not exist in the physical world.

        1. Jerami profile image72
          Jeramiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Why do you constantly asssume that people are angry?

          Why do you think that "existence" requires your undrstanding of it?  If you can not sense it with your five senses it does not exist?
             What a small universe this must be.

          1. spookyfox profile image71
            spookyfoxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Because love is not a "thing", nor justice, grief, joey, etc. It doesn't mean it's inferior to things, it's just not on that category. They're just perspectives, from which we sense things that are really there. Often they're more important than the things themselves, but that doesn't make it a thing per se. And denying its reality is not a bad thing either. Otherwise you fall into the trap of defending its existence, therefore showing that you consider existence as a matter directly connected to its importance, thereby degrading unintentionally the very thing you're trying to defend.

            And it's not about the senses, otherwise no one would consider the possibility of black holes or gravity. You can't touch them, see them, smell them or hear them. We can only feel its effect.

            1. pennyofheaven profile image79
              pennyofheavenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              So if you remove your ability to think, feel, discern, comprehend and for that matter all things relating to the mind and the brain, what are you left with? The body and all things physical cease. Or do you think they continue to exist once you take away the sentient being and the conduit (brain) in us all?

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              jomineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              no spookyfox,
              i am not discussing about the importance of any of these. i am merely stating that they are all concepts. so does not exists in reality. we invent them for our own well being-as humans and as society.

          2. Mark Knowles profile image61
            Mark Knowlesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You come across as angry Jerami. In fact - you are obviously angry that I can differentiate between physical reality and concepts and now appear to be angry at the size of the universe. sad

            So you think that anything in your imagination "exists" in that case?

            If it has no physical manifestation - the word "exist" cannot be applied to it. This is how we differentiate between objects that exist in our physical world and conceptual ideas that manifest themselves only in our non-physical perception.

            At least some of us do. It would appear that some of us need to believe that all the concepts in their brain are physically real.

            Apparently because the real, measurable universe is too small for them and they need majikal super beings in it for it to make sense. wink

    3. Pandoras Box profile image67
      Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Because they exist as concepts in our brains, they are manifested into realities, which do obviously affect the physical world. In that sense I'd say they do exist in the physical world, but are not physical themselves.

      These things and others are created by us, the good and the bad. We create our own realities.

  2. profile image45
    I'mwiththeflowposted 7 years ago

    Everything we think, or do comes from our brain. Our brain exists, and whatever we think from our brain we tend to want to make it happen? My personal opinion is yes, all of them do exist, because none of them would not happen including anyone else. If it didn't exist, we wouldn't need any other human to make it happen, get me? big_smile

  3. pennyofheaven profile image79
    pennyofheavenposted 7 years ago

    Yes

  4. pennyofheaven profile image79
    pennyofheavenposted 7 years ago

    Awww again a miss!

  5. wilmiers77 profile image59
    wilmiers77posted 7 years ago

    They are all potentialities that have material manifestations constantly; to give these potentialities a name and definition is conventional based on our observations of the material manifestations. Scientist knows nothing in actuality of the true first nature of anything.

    Regarding energy, there is work among theoretical physicist searching for another definition of energy based on field theory rather than a body of mass as a reference. The tensor field and how it conserves itself.

    I believe that we must transform more into the spiritual nature of our existence to discover first nature truth.

  6. Pandoras Box profile image67
    Pandoras Boxposted 7 years ago

    Except for the mind I guess, which I have just always considered the same as my brain.

 
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