The bible says Isaiah 43:10,11 10 (the Lord says) â��You are my witnesses,â�� declares the LORD,
â��and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he.Before me no god was formed,nor will there be one after me.
LDS Doctrine Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345, God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see.
(The Bible) 1 Cor 15:50, Now this I say, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
(LDS Doctrine) D&C 130:22, God and Jesus have blood and bones: we can become like them.
(The Bible) Matt 22:30, For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God.
LDS Doctrine (D&C 132:19) An eternal marriage must be performed by one who holds the sealing power. The Lord promised, "If a man marry a wife by . . . the new and everlasting covenant . . . by him who is anointed, . . . it . . . shall be of full force when they are out of the world"
Which one is true?
LDS members can worship themselves or some foolish notion about what they will become, if they want, but I will worship the One who declares and proves He is the Alpha and Omega, the One who was and is and is to come.
God didn't become man so that man could become God. He became man (in the manifestation of Jesus) so that we could live eternally after we die, and worship Him.
There are really no "latter day saints". There really has never been a true saint except for Jesus.
"I will worship the One who declares and proves He is the Alpha and Omega," please by all means, share this proof with the rest of us. Stop by a dictionary on the way back and look up the word proof before you respond.
Neither Book is right.
Jesus did not write down anything, and very little is provable he said it.
and LDS is a man made fabricated document , not God's words.
The LDS is/are inaccurate. If you believe in God, check the full history of Joseph Smith. Look up God's definition of prophet. He proved himself not to be one, therefore his teachings are suspect.
If you don't believe in God, then it's still bogus. Either way, he was wrong.
Joseph Smith was a false Prophet as was Paul; both got killed in terms of Deuteronomy.
LDS beliefs support the Bible. Our beliefs simply contradict the extra biblical concepts which are held by most of modern day Christianity. Hence we believe in a restoration of the gospel and the priesthood through God and his prophets. As the text says; "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
The fact that we worship Jesus Christ as the one and only savior of mankind gets tossed asside in the ongoing doctrinal debate as this thread is more about bashing on Mormons than building faith.
Hi onusnus. I suppose, I could be labeled a basher. It may simply be that I don't understand your faith. I do have a problem with labeling Joseph Smith a prophet. The Bible says if a prophet lies, they weren't a true prophet. How does your church get past this problem? There were quite a few things he said, and did, that were proven fallacious. The hieroglyphics incident comes to mind first and foremost.
I've asked similar questions of other, what I consider to be, off shoot branches of Christianity; but never get a reply I understand. I simply think once something is proven wrong it would be difficult for me to continue to follow.
your question seems more genuine than most to me. I believe you are talking about the book of Abraham. I've seen some pro LDS rebuttals about the origins and the accuracy of the translation, but I don't recall what they were. I'm sure you can find out what Mormon scholars have to say about it on an LDS websight.
I do know that there are several instances in the Bible where a prophecy was not fufilled in the manner which people expected. The ministry of Jesus comes to mind. Sampson definately didn't fufill his prophecy. The bottom line is that the fufillment of prophecy is sometimes something which has to be observed with a faithful heart over the preception of the rest of the world.
I do not think that is really very important if any book is true, but it is important how we deal in life with our spirituality and belief.
The bible certainly contains many errors, simply because it was translated from old Greek, old Hebrew, old Samarian etc. to old Latin, then from Latin to German and then from German to English.
In addition the bible is only the short version of all holy texts, the entire book would be 7 times bigger.
Well and the book of Mormon has an odd history. Mr. Smith was the only one, who could speak a forgotten language and translated a metal plate, that after he did so was never seen again. Maybe he also made mistakes.
But what I think is more important is how people live and deal with each other. Most members of the LDS are very friendly persons, they are always offering help and support to people, who need the help of others. And this is an attitude that I miss among many other christian communities.
Fundguru can you share the errors you have found.
Fundguru i have to tell you I left the LDS church and i just told my family and friends. They no longer talk to me. The bishop told all my friends to stay away from me. Do you think that is friendly. I now go to a bible base church that has open up there arms and has received me.
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