Why am I on earth and not someplace else?

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   Freegoldmanposted 12 years ago

   I have a great interest in religions & spirituality as a whole & feel very spiritual in myself although have never thought of myself as being "religious" as such

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Where is that some place else you think you should be?

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         LeslieAdrienneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That's what I was going to ask....

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Simple.answer is destiny ...think about it.
      
      Is it not here you have gained the perspective of over there to desire it?
      So if you are there will you not have the same perspective of here and also desire it?For the only unique  thing between  here and there is you...
      
      think about it and go in  faith as that of a child...believing that you may be understanding.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, but I have no idea what that means. If spiritual is an emotion, what parts of the body provide the biochemical reactions to drive the emotion?

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         pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The brain

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry, but nothing of the sort has every been found in the brain.
            
            Interesting, in another thread, you said emotions and thoughts are non-physical, yet 'spirituality' comes from the brain.
            
            Grasp of reality?

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               thooghunposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Some recent studies have led some scientists to believe that damage to he left inferior parietal lobe and the right angular gyrus can tamper with such feelings. It isn't proof of anything but you may find it interesting:
               
               http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic … -spiritual

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               pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Your logic is not making sense to me? How do you mean they have found no evidence in the brain. Perhaps I didn't understand your initial question? Which was...what part of the body provides the biochemical reaction?
               
               It seems you failed to read my post in the other thread in its entirety or perhaps I was unclear? Did you miss the physical aspect of what makes us human beings?
               
               The emotions and the physical are what make us whole. One does not exist without the other. Take away the emotions and you have a physical organism incapable of any thoughts, ideas, or feeling. Take away the physical and you have emotions that have no physical component to act as a conduit to feel. It is therefore pure energy.

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                  A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  It's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Emotions cannot possibly exist without the physical body to drive them.
                  
                  Try taking Biology 101 and work your way up from there. You will eventually get there and gain an elementary understanding of the human body.

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                     pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Does biology teach about energy? It amazes me that one would think the body mainly the brain, alone produces the zillions of activities of the mind.
                     
                     Science seems to acknowledges everything is energy. So perhaps you might like share your knowledge on what you claim I don't know.
                     
                     What do you think happens to the human being when part of the brain has been destroyed? Yes, certain functions cease because the energy of a certain wave no longer has the physical conduit. The amazing thing about this energy though, that no longer has a conduit,is that sometimes, it will create new neurological pathway to fire in order to continue to exist. Not ever believed in, in the days of old but now science is making new discoveries.
                     
                     You might like to check out Brain plasticity. Not sure if that is a biological area of study?

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                        A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Not really, but physics does.
                        
                        
                        
                        I'm not sure I have that much time available.
                        
                        
                        
                        Where did you dream up that notion?
                        
                        
                        
                        No, I think you need to do some reading.
                        
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity

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                           pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           We see things differently and that's what makes discussing a more interesting exercise. My notions differ to yours. Your area of study differs to mine. Either way they are just views from a different perch in the universe. So be it.

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                              A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Try to be more accurate. I don't "see things differently", I see them for what they are based on the physical aspects of reality. You are not seeing reality for what it is and that is the difference.
                              
                              
                              Your perception of reality has been infused with invisible beings swirling around all over the place, which is not what reality shows.
                              
                              There is no area of study for invisible friends, there is only belief in myths.

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                                 pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Who said anything about invisible friends? This statement alone demonstrates well what I mean by us seeing things differently. At no time have I mentioned invisible friends as you claim.
                                 
                                 If you see reality as it is then you will have read what I actually said rather than create your own perception of what you think I said.
                                 
                                 For sure, we cannot see thoughts, emotions or ideas etc and yet it is part of reality as we know reality to be. If one does not see the physical results that thoughts or ideas produce (ie in this instance.. the written word) clearly how can one claim to see reality as it is?

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                                    A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    Your god is your invisible friend, unless you're going to claim your god is actually real and is part of reality.
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    We can see thoughts and emotions at work in the brain through an MRI, that is reality.

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                                       pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Who said anything about God in this discussion?
                                       
                                       You see the "effects" of emotions at work in the brain. Not the anatomy aspects of emotion, because there are none. The MRI etc does not capture an image of the anatomy of emotion itself then.

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                                          A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          Oh my. I can see why you didn't like school.

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                                             pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                             Haha, Goodness this is just too funny!
                                             
                                             No one said that I didn't like school. Not that its relevant in our discussion in my view. If you want a doctors degree, you go to a university. Prayers don't require qualifications, nor do thoughts or emotions. So who do you go to then? Those who experience it, which amounts to just about everyone.
                                             
                                             However, since you seem to be interested. You asked...didn't I go to school to learn...I replied no I went to school because I had to.....Here is what I meant.
                                             
                                             At 5 years old one does not get up one day  and decide...well I think I would like to go to school today to learn something. Most 5 year old's just don't think that way. They go to school because their parents make them go to school because it is law.
                                             
                                             Big difference between going to school out of choice and going to school because someone made you go.
                                             
                                             The desire to continue school to learn comes at an age where you are able to make that choice for yourself.
                                             
                                             The school of life is by far the greatest teacher. Simply because it gives us lessons we often do not learn in school. Class is never out in the school of life. Whether we learn or not from normal school and/or the school of life experience differs from person to person.

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                                                A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                I'm pretty sure you did say that.
                                                
                                                
                                                
                                                LOL! You're saying your parents sent you to school because it was the law? I wouldn't call that very good parenting.
                                                
                                                
                                                
                                                Sorry, but that isn't true at all. The 'school of life' will teach you very little about the world around you, how to think or understand anything.
                                                
                                                That explains a lot, though.

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                                                   pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                   You might like to go and read my post again (or not) We seem to be getting off topic which seems to be a recurring theme when you and I are discussing.
                                                   
                                                   Yes they sent me to school because it was the law. I will never know whether or not they would still have sent me to school if it wasn't law. My point was, that you seemed to miss, is that as a child we do not choose. We do not choose because we do not have the freedom to. Our choices are made for us.
                                                   
                                                   What that has to do with good parenting is beyond me? Maybe you can elaborate as to why you think it has something to do with how good or bad a parent is.
                                                   
                                                   Experience and knowledge are two entirely different things. One can read and learn all they like about how to give birth but they really don't 'know' until they have experienced it. One can give birth to a child without having read the how to manuals and still have an easy delivery experience.
                                                   
                                                   You can see it however you wish. If learning and knowledge is king to you that is fine. Without experience however it would be severely lacking in substance.

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                                                      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Yes, as a child and an adult you appeared not to be interested in the least to make a choice to learn things.
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      For the same reasons and choices you made, to send you to school because it was the law and not because they wanted you to learn things.
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      Your example of childbirth isn't even remotely related to the experience and knowledge we're talking about, unless childbirth is the only thing in your life.
                                                      
                                                      What you're saying is that we shouldn't learn about anything but just go out in the world and try to live in it without having any understanding of it.
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      
                                                      That's gobbledegook. One gains knowledge and then they go out and gain experience using their knowledge. Without the knowledge, they remain ignorant of how to do anything and must frustrate themselves with a lifetime of trial and error, doing things wrong because they have no knowledge of how to do it.
                                                      
                                                      Yes, knowledge is king, and going out and using that knowledge to gain experience is king, queen and all the knights of the round table included.

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                                                         pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Then that is how knowledge will be for you.
                                                         
                                                         No where have I said that knowledge is not useful. Knowledge does not equal experience. Experience equals knowledge because that is how knowledge is made available for others to learn. If you are learning from non experienced people then that is like reading a mechanic manual that was written by a doctor. Theorists on the other hand make hypothesis till experience (practical application results) proves or disproves their theory. Still it is in the experience that gives one knowledge.
                                                         
                                                         The choices I or my parents made you will never know. You can guess and assume but you will not know. If that's the type of knowledge you learn then you can have it. To assume you know others motivations for choosing  and jump to conclusions I cannot see that knowledge being very useful. Can you?

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                                                            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                            Actually, that's how knowledge is for everyone, but some refuse to accept knowledge in favor of irrational beliefs.
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            You don't appear to be able to distinguish between experience and knowledge, that could be part of the problem.
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            Yes definitely, you can't distinguish them.
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            I can distinguish between the two, so obviously I do find knowledge useful and apparently you do not. I can understand that if you had no use for school other than the fact you were forced to go because of the law.
                                                            
                                                            If your parents believe as you do, I can understand why they believe they were forced to send you to school.

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   forallposted 12 years ago

   God's will and wisdom. Your body is done to bear Earth's conditions. If you were on Mars you would burn. The orbit that Earth turns in is the most suitable for human life that if Earth deviates a bit we will all disappear. Everything is well done in universe

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   kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years ago

   really depends on the dope, cause I've lived on other planets, I think?

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      haha!!

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   Was there an option? No one told me there was an option.

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Seems that way huh?

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   As to where does one come into existence? It is all just one, universe-wide, roulette wheel.

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You mean random acts? So if the universal wheels spins and lands on our number. We are up?

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   manlypoetrymanposted 12 years ago

   Why am I on earth and not someplace else?
   
   Not sure on that one...maybe there was a transporter malfunction...?

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      Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Probably those dilithium crystals again.

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         manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         you're probably right...I'll check with the bridge...

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            Disturbiaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            LOL, well beam me up manly, I'm of a mind to go a traveling.

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               manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               "Prepare One to Beam Up"..."Aye, Cap'-Tain"
               
               How ya' been doing...Disturbia?

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   earnestshubposted 12 years ago

   Gravity?

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   Ghost32posted 12 years ago

   ROFLMAO!   Earnest, I check in on the Forums for a change (a rare change, lately)...click on this one because it was you who'd posted--and you did yourself proud!  Kudos!

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      G'Day Ghost. Haven't seen you for a while. I hope life is rockin for ya.

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