Honesty or Justification

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   DoubleScorpionposted 13 years ago

   I have seen a few on here speak of honesty. Of being honest with one's self and being honest in general.
   
   I am curious, are we humans, truly honest with ourselves, do we truly see and accept our flaws and shortcoming and attempt to correct these towards the betterment of ourselves and others. Or do we attempt to justify our flaws, by pointing to other sources as the cause and try to tell ourselves that it certian thing were different we could be or do better. Do we justify ourselves in an attempt to show that while we make mistakes, it is caused by forces beyond our control and therefore we are not responsible for the effects our flaws have created.
   
   Why is it that we have so much trouble seeing and admitting to our own flaws, but waste no time pointing out the flaws of others in an attempt to make ourselves feel better about our flaws or make ourselves seem to be better or superior to others? And if we are completely honest with ourselves about our flaws, why do we not spend more time attempting to better ourselves. Instead, it seems we spend out time pointing out the flaws of others, while pretending we ourselves have no flaws or that our flaws aren't as bad as others and therefore we are better than others.
   
   Thoughts?

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      kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The one who realize that every flaw that he sees in another is actually an integral part of himself has seen Life.....
      
      Now that one will also develop the sight to see that as he seeks to justify others who posses perceived faults he in that same instant also justifies himself.
      
      The result is that that one will realize that je was already perfect to begin with and need not better himself...
      
      
      This is rest that is Life.

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         DoubleScorpionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         According to the bible, Jesus showed anger, temptation and other human flaws. If he was indeed perfect, how could he be flesh? And if he wasn't flesh, how did he die?

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            kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It is also written that no man can take his life unless he lay it down.
            
            The flesh is a temporary state of being, and the Christ must enter in to accomplish his purpose which is his death.
            
            Therefore in the state of being the flesh continues until understanding comes thNe the realization of Life begins, and that one though he may continues as flesh in actuality is already the Living Spirit Life.
            
            Death is also a state of being which cannot encompass life , so the death of the Christ cannot be his death because he is Life thus the inevitability of His rising from it.
            
            Nevertheless  he remain death to those who are of such but he is Life to those who are of such.
            
            So those who look to the man from 2000 years aback for Life  is actually looking towards the flesh and death.
            
            But those who look to the present is looking toward the Spirit called Life who is always present as the  I Am.
            
            Perfection can only exist as Life and is free to assume any one of these state at His own. will .

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      aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Finding fault with self can become too introspective. If all one does is deal with their own flaws and faults, they miss serving others.
      If they look for flaws and faults in others, they miss the opportunity to love them. Like all things in a healthy life, you need balance.
      Like I heard it said once. "we judge ourselves on our  intentions and others on their actions"
      If we were to reverse that and judge ourselves on our actions, and others on their intentions, we would have far better relationships.
      Just one perspective, I guess.

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      A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Honesty isn't about flaws or fixing flaws, it is about whether or not one is going to lie to themselves or not, and further to that whether or not one is going to embrace and defend those lies.

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         DoubleScorpionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Agreed. And many lie to themselves about the flaws within. How can we be honest with others if we can not be honest with ourselves?

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            A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Exactly, you can't be honest with anyone if you aren't honest with yourself, first.
            
            The Bible does not teach honesty, if it did, it would become irrelevant by everyone.

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               DoubleScorpionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Sadly, not many can see this though. Or maybe they are just refusing to see it?

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   Emile Rposted 13 years ago

   I think, even those with the best intentions fall prey to justifying themselves at times. It's ego driven and we all have an ego. Some simply larger than others.

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      DoubleScorpionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I would have to agree. No one really wants to be flawed (or admit to it at least), but we are. I find that when we accept these flaws in ourselves, then and only then can we begin to correct or use them, for the betterment of ourselves. But, of course, the hard part is actually admitting to our flaws first.

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   knolyourselfposted 13 years ago

   Not many will admit the truth underlying a great
   many things. Thus not many are honest.

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   Word soup. It needs more salt.

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