Why do some Christians say you're going to hell for celebrating......

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   Johnjfernandoposted 12 years ago

   Why do some Christians say you're going to hell for celebrating Halloween?
   
   I'm a Christian to a certain extent and I sort have beleifs in the views and faith it preaches. I take part in Halloween because its a time that is spent with family and friends of gathering. Its not like as if you threw the Bible out the window.
   
   Whats more, I've heard some say its the 'Devils Birthday.' I think its just a hoax but still feel thats its worth asking you all for answers.

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      Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It aint about what we believe about halloween!   It is about the rest of it that "Might" be important.
      
          IF   ya are doing it thinking that it is wrong to be doing!   then you are doing wrong.    How hard is that to figure out?

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         WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You gotta love Jarami, he tells it like it is and he's right on! No one from church will recognize you in your costume anyway, so don't sweat. I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus went with you.

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      They say that because they have chosen to apply a definition and reason for Halloween that no one else accepts.
      
      No, it's not the devils birthday - never was.  Google the history of halloween and you will find it was, long ago, about honoring our dead friends and family but that's as close as it comes.

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         WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I've never heard the birthday thing. I think it is more of a repulsion from superstition and demonic activity in general. It used to be "All Saints Eve" and it evolved from there when adolescent males got to run around town with no adult supervision.

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      Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Don't trouble yourself young man. Just like Christmas has lots of meanings to different people depending on their belief and history. Holloween is All Hollows Eve(whatever that means)and it's also a celebration of the end of harvest time.
      Be a good God loving(or God Fairing or God Fearing)Man. Don't let the rules of different Cults in this world paralize you with fear of Ghosts and Demons.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Just more dishonesty and hypocrisy from the folks who brought you the Inquisition and witch burnings.

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      lavender3957posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This is different. I had never heard of Halloween as being evil. I think it is how you react to the holiday with your own beliefs. Everyone has their own opinions and faiths for practicing the Holiday of what they grew up to be. It is a time for family and friends. I was told it was merely a beggars night for the less fortunate to be able to go door to door to beg for food. Then I heard it was honoring our dead ancestors. What ever the belief you have, I am sure you will not go to hell for it. Interesting post.

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   WD Curry 111posted 12 years ago

   I don't know. I am a Christian and I like to put on a costume and go to a party. You should have seen the costumes at Ringling School of Art. They were so good that real people looked funny the next day.
   
   I am more concerned about other things that I participate in, like over-development and the global economy. I don't think God likes us despoiling the creation, exploiting the poor, or ignoring the misery around us.
   
   Somewhere in the Epistles it says not to let anyone be your judge in regard to a new moon, a festival or a sabboth day. Hello!?! If you are really interested in going deeper, read Romans chapt 14 and 15 in a reasonable translation. If you aren't stupid, it will cure legalism.
   
   Perfect love casts out fear.

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There is no love to be found in the threats of a biblical homicidal maniac that I can see,

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         WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

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            earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Don't you mean don't disagree with me or I get angry?
            
            Be my guest......go right ahead and burst an artery, I'm the lay back and take it easy type myself.

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               WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

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                  earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Don't call me Earny dude dude! It makes you look illiterate and smart arsed.
                  
                  Anyone who uses the forums to flog their sky fairy is gonna get laughed at by anyone who can think past kindergarten level, and you are just gonna have to bare with it.
                  
                  Been here 3 hours and pushing your weight around already eh?
                  
                  You won't be seeing me roll over for the fairystory or eating any crow you can find Einstein.

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                     WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I thought you were laid back. You think someone is angry because you are trying to provoke anger. You are projecting your own. I don't know what you are angry about, but I will pray for you and you will be healed of your deep hurt. For real, brother. Peace!.

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                        earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Yep. I said laid back, not door mat.

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                           Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           POW!
                           There it is.

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                           JamaGeneeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           What Earnest practices is tolerance of others who have  different viewpoints about the world...as long as they're polite about it.

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                              WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Excuse me, did you see his polite respose to the question? Why bother if that is all you have to say?  I'm a southern boy and we are taught our manners.

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                                 recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 I know many southern boys and they also have manners beaten into them - taught would be too 'high' a word for their education, many of the college graduates that come to me appear to have little actual eduction.  On average they come somewhere around 12 year olds in their understanding of the world, geography, history, philosophy, economics, any of the humanities.  They can however reference most things to some passage in one book or other, if they all used the same one it would not be so confusing for them I guess.  You seem to fit right into the mainstream of southern educated.

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                                 JamaGeneeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 You must've left that "politeness" somewhere else when you logged into this forum. "Earny, dude" is NOT a mannerly way to address a hubber who's been here wayyyy longer than I predict you'll ever be. I've seen several years of sunrises here at HP too, and I can assure you that as a rule, long-time hubbers go out of our way to be helpful to newbies...as long as they're polite.
                                 
                                 And WB, it most certainly isn't polite to say that I shouldn't have bothered posting that reply.

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                                    earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    Exactly.

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                                    recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    Please do not hesitate to point out that most people, including Earnest, are very gentlemanly, and gentlewomanly,  but I am not.  I constantly fail the manners test by pointing out that a fool is a fool, rubbish is rubbish and some people are just trolls.  So - nobody needs to be polite to me

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                                       earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       I have never had an issue with straight talk. I think you simply call it as you see it.

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                                          recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          If everyone saw it like you then I would not have been banned so many times

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                                             earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                             Same for me. I copped 4 months once.

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                        earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Just in case you don't know where to put those prayers, I have a suggestion.
                        I have another suggestion. Find out a bit more about hubbers before you let your mouth run off like that.

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                           JamaGeneeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           

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            Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Earny is the smartest, kindest, even tempered man on hupPages. Until you mention God (or Sky Fairy) to him. Good to see you again old friend.

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               WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Earny! Dang dude, chill out! There is a tension between freedom and rights. In a society where people have freedom of religion, they also have freedom from religion. Use yours if you don't want to beleive.  More power to ya!
               
               In America, we have the right to believe as we choose. We also have freedom of speach. Responsible citizens don't abuse this right to offend others for the sake of offending others. I am a christian, but I don't sound off about how Sidhhartha never intended to be worshipped as a god, but wanted to lead the way for others to be enlightened. The people who worship statues of Buddhha would kick my butt and throw me out of their restaurant. I would be stuck with American cuisinne. Its about time for you to eat some crow and you will before its all over. Let me know how it turns out!

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                  recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  You seem just like another offensive newbie who waves his ignorance around these threads.  I wonder which troll you are a sock puppet for ?

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                  earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry I didn't recognise the Alzheimers.
                  
                  Or do you just think if you write the same thing twice it will have double the meaning?

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                     WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Sorry, I am having trouble with my connectiion and this weird program. I am used to other computer products and have been using them since 1984.

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               earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Gee that's very nice of you. I do try to be polite up to a point.

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   recommend1posted 12 years ago

   Just another stupid thing from the people who contort the words of their own so-called faith to their own peculiar bigotry and twisted morals - and the whole thing based on a story from someone who did not know the facts of the original story because he wasn't there, and was rejected 'with scorn' by those who were.

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      WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I thought pandas were sweet and cuddly. Why are you so bitter? Your belief system is not providing you with much peace. I don't see how this thread is indicative of professional quality writing. Am I going to be comfortable steering an editor to this site?

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         recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         No bitterness here - just pointing out stupidity, you popped in just at the right point.

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         JamaGeneeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Oh, the learning curve in store for you.  Forums are for give and take discussions among ourselves, our HUBS are where our professional writing resides. So this (or any forum) is not the place to send an editor to sample yours or anyone else's work.
         
         And you aren't making any points by bad mouthing Hubpages in general 10 minutes after you joined.

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            WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

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               earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Or you may be one of those who can't write, and just hang around the forums till you get chucked off.

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   Friendlywordposted 12 years ago

   I just read just read this in WiKipedia.
   
   "Development of artifacts and symbols associated with Halloween formed over time. For instance, the carving of jack-o'-lanterns springs from the souling custom of carving turnips into lanterns as a way of remembering the souls held in purgatory.[5] The turnip has traditionally been used in Ireland and Scotland at Halloween,[6][7] but immigrants to North America used the native pumpkin, which are both readily available and much larger – making them easier to carve than turnips.[6] The American tradition of carving pumpkins is recorded in 1837[8] and was originally associated with harvest time in general, not becoming specifically associated with Halloween until the mid-to-late 19th century"

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      WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You are living up to your moniker and respecting the sincere question that initiated all of this communication. I am sure that johnfernando isn't interested in an insult contest. Blessed be the peacemaker. You put the thread back on task. I will talk to earnesthub about my motor. It's missing on a cylinder and I want to fix it myself. I already have my hammer ready . Peace, out!

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         Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I have to go off topic again. Thank you WD. What an insightful man you are.
         DID YOU READ THAT HUBPAGES TEAM?
         Here is nice man that knows another good, nice, respectful, peace loving man when he sees...why are all of you rolling on the floor laughing like that? Here a man that knows a real writer when he sees...why are you people laughing louder...STOP THAT! Are you trying to get me to say something to get me banned for the tenth time? I'm a calm, thoughtful...hey hey Stop that!

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            earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I was going to tell everyone what a great hubber you are, but you beat me to it.

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   Paul Wingertposted 12 years ago

   The threat of hell doesn't scare me a bit. I went through hell. It was married for a year so right now I'm going to party on!

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   The Christians should not celebrate Halloween as Jesus did not celebrate it.

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Does anyone really give a rats doodle about this?

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   WD Curry 111posted 12 years ago

   You mean your opinion?

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No wise guy, you need to learn how to follow the threads.

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   WD Curry 111posted 12 years ago

   My bad. Bear with me mighty experts. I was steered here by someone in the real world who told me this was a good place to display some articles and somehow scrape up a little coin. I am not much for social networking. I have people for that. The office politics around here is a trip. American ways are spreading fast.
   
   There's a new kid in town. Get used to it.

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   Johnjfernandoposted 12 years ago

   Thanks for the replies everyone. I am someone who still struggles on/off with my religous faith of Christianity. The question came into my mind as I was working on a few hubs that promote some future novels that I will be publishing soon as ebooks anyways. Earnesthub, I gotta say, you have quite the humour. I enjoyed your feedback as well as the cheeky ones directed at a fellow hubber. Newbies are newbies and will find a place here soon as just another established hubber, so, don't fret. Best wishes to everyone and a 'Happy Thanksgiving' in advance.

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    luvpassionposted 12 years ago

    Happy "Samhain" pronounced sah-van. A time to celebrate summers end. A time when the veil between this world and the next is at its thiniest. Check out the site for an explination of the modern wiccan view of Halloween. http://www.religioustolerance.org/hallo_np.htm
    
    Merry Meet
    
    Teri

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       Paul Wingertposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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