The Spiritual Discerned

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Romans814posted 12 years ago
What does ‘spiritually discerned’ mean to the non-spiritual (non-Christian)?
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I can only speak for myself, but it would mean about the same as nvcfdjkerkjrtuhyfg.
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  earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I came up with almost the same.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Spiritually discerned is just another way for a person to admit that they have deceived themselves.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh it was spiritual part that upset some of you huh
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Upset? No.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Then you were incorrect with your definition ,not surprising.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  How did you reach that conclusion? My definition? It's not my definition. You always seem to bring ME into the conversation. It's been establish that mysticism which is where spirituality is derived from is intellectually dishonest.
  
  Quit bringing ME into the conversation. And, I have no reason to be upset as you put it and even if I'm not upset, as you put it, it wouldn't make the definition wrong or incorrect. To think that would be absurd.
  
  Not to mention, you also seem to think that I get upset at the ignorance of others, when I've already accepted them with their ignorance. I'm just pointing it out.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The above statement brings me in.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It corrected you ,but as usual you let your pride deny it.
  
  By the way , a wise man acccepts correction.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Corrected me? How? Explain.
  Providing it's accurately done sure.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Romans814 wrote:
  
  What does ‘spiritually discerned’ mean to the non-spiritual (non-Christian)?
  
  Cags (YOUR) Defination
  
  Spiritually discerned is just another way for a person to admit that they have deceived themselves. wink
  
  Eaglekiwi (DICTIONARY) Definition
  
  1. To perceive with the eyes or intellect; detect.
  2. To recognize or comprehend mentally.
  3. To perceive or recognize as being different or distinct; distinguish
  
  Spiritually/Mentally
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Spirituality and Mentality? Are two separate things.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes they are.
  
  Do you accept either description?
  
  Anyway thats why I said on an earlier post "Its the 'spiritual' before the word 'discern' that has SOME people huh?
  
  Then YOU entered ,I did not summon you specifically at all
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The problem with your attempt here is that the word "perceive" is part and parcel the problem.
  
  It doesn't negate that anyone who claims "spiritual discerned" is deceiving themselves. The word "perceive" in and of itself is where things go wrong.
  
  Mysticism is based on one's intellectual dishonesty. Which means that they are using their intellect in a dishonest way. Which also means, that their perception is wrong. Something in their perception is lacking.
  
  Anyone who openly admits to spiritual discerned truth is only deceiving themselves, due to a lack in their perception. Spirituality is derived from Mysticism, so that makes both intellectually dishonest.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Ohhh splitting hairs (again)
  
  Perception and discernment are similar but not the same.
  But you did manage to swing the topic round to some psych 101
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  1. To perceive with the eyes or intellect; detect.
  2. To recognize or comprehend mentally.
  3. To perceive or recognize as being different or distinct; distinguish
  
  Spiritually/Mentally
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for kind and wise words I leave this post ! with good advice and learned lessons qit fighting somthing thats not my battle peace to all mkiss and tale
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poeticmentorposted 12 years ago
Being spiritually discerned means just that. You can discern god's spirit that is present in others compared to those 'others' who are not of God. (those who are lost and have not found peace within themselves). It has nothing to do with Christianity or any other religions.You can tell by conversation or just being around someone, if they are of God or not. 1
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Spirituality was debunked decades ago. It's been revealed as intellectually dishonest with self. But, nice try though.
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  A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No, you can't discern that and it would very dishonest to say you could.
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poeticmentorposted 12 years ago
Being spiritually discerned means just that. You can discern god's spirit that is present in others compared to those 'others' who are not of God. (those who are lost and have not found peace within themselves). It has nothing to do with Christianity or any other religions.You can tell by conversation or just being around someone, if they are of God or not. 1
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poeticmentorposted 12 years ago
Intellect is irrelevant when it comes to spirit. The mind is turned off if it is true discernment. This way you cannot judge by outside factors only the intuitive ones. Nice try Cagsil. i know you feel it too!
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You keep lying to yourself.
  Untrue. The mind is NEVER turned off and anyone with a bit of knowledge would know this.
  Discernment is using all factors incorporated as one, it's called objective thinking. You cannot use just ONE factor internal or otherwise to make any discernment true wisdom, because if you did so, then you've made a mistake. Just like right now, you're using EGO to prevent you from understanding. What a shame really.
  Dishonesty isn't a game I play with people, like many others do, so it wasn't an actual try. My statement above you cannot dismiss as being wrong, because it's objective, unlike yours.
  What I feel is my awareness which is tuned unlike yours which is out of whack. I understand my conscious mind and how it works with my sub-conscious, and I learned to recognize ego, so it isn't in my from discerning truth(wisdom).
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Kiss andTalesposted 12 years ago
It's turned off when you are dead! and then what happens ! dust you are dust you returned ,surely the reason you exist in the first place goes back in the hands who gave it, women give birth this process has been the same sense Adam ans Eve, each birth came with some delivery, you could not birth yourself ,someone took care of you and still do,past this planet earth All means there benifit us , the sun sits just right so do the moon and yet man have no control of there Utilities we benifit ,the trees feed us oxygen to breath, we dont live on mars we live on planet earth! for a reason this is our home, despite what man has done torn up and destoyed a lot of good things, the future will be different!
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  When you're dead everything is turned off. So what's your point?
  So what.
  You're delusion has your thinking wrong yet again.
  
  The REASON I exist to begin with is because I was born. I was born because my parents decided to have children.
  Keep quoting stories to support your lack of knowledge and it will get you nowhere.
  Each birth happened because the reproductive system of both people was working properly. Biology 101, go learn something instead of claiming(attributing) all births happen because of your imaginary god.
  This was a completely stupid statement.
  I was a child and when I grew up I take care of myself. So please.
  You make no sense. Nothing new.
  Go learn something will you.
  Yes the future will be different once more people stop lying to themselves about what they are, what they expect to receive from the future and goes out and makes their future.
  
  2/3rds of the world is made up of religious folk like yourself and you probably never once stopped to notice that it isn't possible that the 1/3rd who are non-religious couldn't possibly be doing all the damage.
  
  Wake up from your dream world and see reality for what it is.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  again this is true you did noth birth youself neither did your parents birth themself this process goes all the way back to the first parents and they where directly made! Who made reproductive system, Man didnt he barly makes a robot can he make it like us reproduct, no! and you are right about the damage done anyone can do damage to property ,has nothing to do with your faith,I see a person telling me he exist because he does, I see a world of people that believe what you just said ! you have given no proof to believe you , I give you the sun moon and stars ,I give you proof of you, you do not look like me, a true designer of all things made.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  This proves you lack knowledge in the human species as well as what we(humankind) has discovered about self.
  WOW! This is one of the dumbest statement ever made on Hubpages.
  Ignorance, even chosen ignorance has a lot to do with learning and misunderstanding faith. But, I don't expect you to understand.
  A person does exist. So please.
  I see a world of people that understands what I said, not believes it. There's a huge difference.
  You're right, truth needs no proof. It's recognized when SEEN.
  Conjecture based on your inability to understand knowledge already accumulated by humankind. Good show on you.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ok we know how you feel about this subject! you have not proven so far nothing yet, to prove to me something greater then I just mention , I get the word , stupid, ignorance,dumbest stataments and words not explaining proof of what you saying is valid.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sure that you don't know much with regards to me.
  Reality is something you need to learn about. It is obvious that you don't understand it. Your actions are PROOF of that.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I really do understand reality because I am asking you to prove your statement made, back it up! thats reality, so far you are teaching me and others avoid the question attack the person asking the question because you can not explain! plain to see.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Back up what exactly? That reality exists free of your independent thoughts, desires, will or wishes? It does, because it is solely based on the objective knowledge available.
  It's obvious that spirituality is intellectual dishonesty because it's based on mysticism which is dishonest and not based on reality. Are you confused about this?
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No you again are giving words of your opinion not facts , tell me how you came to exist,tell me how the sun moon and stars got to be , tell me why the sun rises on time every morning and dark is seperated from the day to light , give me a valid reason,not your opinion.what proof of all the thing we as human benifit.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  since you claim not to believe in a book ! then give no book quoted to met show explain what is a everyday thing and tell me how thats proof of no God!.
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Cagsil came to exist as the result of his parents actions, just as he said. Gravity is the answer to the sun, moon and stars existence; it caused collections of dust, hydrogen and other elements to collect and form these things. The rotation of the earth is what separates day to night.
  
  I understand these answers won't satisfy you; you demand a supernatural explanation that fits with your beliefs. Nevertheless, they answer your question to a reasonable level. If you wish more detailed information spend a few years studying physics, cosmology and biology.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  thank you for answering my question! because that is better then I been getting! first Gravity is the answer to one issue! why does gravity control us to a planet that keeps us living here, why not float into space and just die because we can not breath? and then if we float into the sun we would burn up? next yes who created the substance of dust! I am sure it would have a mixer we could relate to.,,next tell me ,explain to me why do we all reflect end result of production from parents! but design DNA, thought of the finger print, the thought that you will not look like and me not you! again many a man can make robots but they can not create reproduction ! they can have a part in the act of using whats there But did no make the program!
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  As I figured, the answer will not satisfy you as you demand that God did it and any answer without God is just wrong. Nevertheless:
  
  No knows the "why" of gravity, just that it works according to specific rules. I might add that without gravity the odds of "floating" into the sun are nil.
  
  No one created the dust - that is self evident as no one was there. If you do not understand that the big bang did not require a cause then you need to study quantum physics.
  
  Study biology and what is known about DNA - you will find answers to your questions as long as you leave God out of it.
  
  I did not make my DNA; my parents did that when their gametes combined. As my DNA is my "program" they made the program.
  
  You know, when you don't know the answer to something like your questions it does not mean God did it. It means you don't know the answer.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I was born. Duh? Biology 101.
  Were you not taught in school? What do you need a refresher course in science?
  The Sun doesn't rise every morning at any specific time. It does vary depending on where you live in the world.
  Look up the word duality would you.
  Again, go learn basic science. Have you had your head buried in sand for your entire life? I mean seriously.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Duh ! you where born who created the reprduction of man, who design the program, who design your DNA to be you ! you DUH can not answer my question. sense that what you understand is duh!
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You assume too much. The reproductive process has been explained. There's no logical or even sane reason to think that something other than evolution happened. You can keep bouncing this subject back to the beginning of the Universe, which I'm sure you will. And, had you learned anything, then you would know that the singularity explained within the Big Bang needed nothing to begin it.
  Again, you assume to much, due to your lack of understanding of the human species.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  well as long as you understand your self and you are happy with the answer
  thats works for you ! because you just said you have given me no logical or sane reason for me to believe what you say! I gave you proof you gave me nothing.I am finished.with this point.
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  Quilligrapherposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Cags,
  
  You sometimes write in Cagsilian. I need your help. Please explain what is “the singularity explained within the Big Bang?”
  
  The Big Bang is a theory about the early development of our world. As a model, it attempts to explain the earliest events in the universe. It follows the rapid expansion and the effects of cooling including the current continuously expanding state. The Big Bang is not a proof of creation or evolution. Actually, it offers neither an explanation about the cause nor a hint about the absolute earliest conditions of the expansion but it attempts to address the general development of the universe going from that point forward.
  
  Just a thought to consider, Cags. Be well.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Quill,
  
  Last time I checked, the Grand Cycle explain that which you're looking for an explanation.
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  Quilligrapherposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hello Cagsil. I’m hoping this finds you well.
  
  I am still trying to make sense out statements that don’t make sense. Your reluctance to explain yourself only makes the task more difficult. The Big Bang theory does not explain “singularity” nor anything called the “Grand Cycle”.
  
  Again, the Big Bang is a theory about the early development of our world. As a model, it attempts to explain the earliest events in the universe. It follows the rapid expansion and the effects of cooling including the current continuously expanding state. The Big Bang is not a proof of creation or evolution. Actually, it offers neither an explanation about the cause nor a hint about the absolute earliest conditions of the expansion but it attempts to address the general development of the universe going from that point forward.
  
  Please help me out if you can by explaining why you made what appears to be a false statement. It seems “singularity” and “grand cycles” are not connected with the Big Bang theory at all. Perhaps you are confused? Even thought the Big Bang does not attempt to explain creation, some “physicists are making a case that the universe may not have started with the “big bang” at all. They believe that the universe may undergo endless cycles of evolution in infinite space and time.” (1) Even this statement is misleading by impling the Big Bang theory defines the start of the universe. The theory attempts to explain what followed an event without addressing the cause or what may have come before it.
  
  Regardless, knowing very little about the Big Bang theory and posting “had you learned anything, then you would know that the singularity explained within the Big Bang needed nothing to begin it” is ludicrous.
  
  It seems even quite infantile to include the Big Bang theory in a discussion about religion, the god metaphor, creation, evolution, and reality when, in fact, humans know so very little about any of these subjects. A University of Michigan paper on the Big Bang Theory made a valid point by observing, “It is odd that we will never truly know how it began. We can only speculate and give our best guess. Through our own devices we have been able to produce evidence that these guesses are close to the truth. But centuries from now, will the human race compare us to those who once thought of the Earth as the center of the universe?”
  
  I hope you don’t mind a few simple observations about a couple of highly complex and intellectually advanced subjects. Offering personal beliefs without expressing the reasons for your conclusions is useless.
  
  (1) http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 … ng_no.html
  (2) http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The only point of my post was to get the person to go read something which they haven't read. Your post which is obvious from your remark- "infantile", was only to defame.
  
  It's interesting, considering how you started your post to begin with.
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  Quilligrapherposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  
  Hi again, Mr. Choiniere,
  
  I sincerely appreciate your prompt reply and brief explanation. I now have a better understanding of how you express yourself.
  
  You chided another poster and made false statements about “singularity” and “grand cycle” being a part of the Big Bang theory because you wanted that poster to read something you thought they hadn’t read. You do not acknowledge that your statements were false and unjustified?
  
  Now you accuse me of slander! The use of “infantile” was my opinion of a discussion in which the Big Bang Theory was used as an argument about religion, the god metaphor, creation, and evolution and I made an effort to explain why I think this way. It was not intended to defame. I have reached the conclusion that English may not be your first language because your vocabulary is frequently misleading. For my opinion to defame it would have to contain libel or slander.
  
  I apologize to you if any of my statements appeared improper because I did not consider you might have limitations with English. I will be sure that this doesn’t happen again.
  
  Have a good evening and a pleasant tomorrow.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh now you use a different "name" in your post. Is that suppose to intimidate me in some manner?
  I'm sure you don't have a clue about me or how I express myself.
  Oh now, you're attempting to twist things. Nice to know. It will help in future communication. I'm not surprised, I've seen your act time and again on the forums.
  It was justified, as I stated, I wanted the person to go read something. The statement I made wasn't false. It was made to make them think? To want to inquire into something new? Kind of like you do when you post some of the things you post on the forums.
  Accuse? I merely pointed out your usage of the word and the effect it was attempting to do. If I actually accused you, I would have said something different.
  Of course it wasn't, now that you've been called on it.
  Bad perception on your part. What a shame.
  I don't have limitations with wording my posts. I use small words and enough of them for understanding. If you don't see it, then that would be your problem. Maybe it's YOU who doesn't have the English language? I'm not saying you do or don't.
  From your exchange with me, now and on previous occasion, I'm pretty sure the above doesn't matter to you one way or the other.
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  Quilligrapherposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  My point remains. You made false claims about “singularity” and “grand cycle” being a part of the Big Bang theory.
  
  You do not acknowledge that your statements were false and you further claim your error was justified. Others reading this thread deserve to know this.
  
  I already offered my apology to you for any of my statements that appear to be improper.
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "who created the reprduction of man" is like asking "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?". There is no answer because the question is sense free.
  
  As there is no "who" the question has no answer and cannot reasonably be asked at all.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  as long as every thing on your body has a function there will always be a who ,because you would not be you the person ,because you are not me the woman ! just because it dirt outside and you show up next week and there is a building standing there it did not show up just because it is some build ,and some one designed. you believe whats in front of you but you can not get your mind to see the bigger picture .thats ok ,thanks for your feed back.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The bigger picture? You obviously cannot see beyond yourself, much less a bigger picture.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Duh ! you where born who created the reprduction of man
  
  If you are absolutely sure, please provide evidence.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I dont have to repeat myself for you just because you dont like the remark some one stated the duh! I ask for proof of the statment made all i got was just because! not an aswer to me! perhaps if you are looking for the answer maybe you would be please with there answer they provide thats your choice.
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Hollie Thomasposted 12 years ago
Kiss and Tales, at no point did I say that I did not like your post. The Duh! thing is not problematic to me, this is not personal. I just asked for evidence. I'm afraid that is the problem that we atheists have, we need evidence, simple faith is not enough. It clearly is for you and that is fine, but you cannot expect everyone just to have faith without anything to substantiate that faith. You cannot expect people to believe as you, just because you do.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  well when you used Duh toward me that was not cool and I did not start it cagsil did! I ask him plainly to explain to me certain things i got ring around the rosy! and the answer was just because! that his right to say what he wants but to me I could not and will not accept that answer! what you are saying to me is what I said to him, give me somthing substantiat to see his point he did not .
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  Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The duh thing was copied and pasted from a post. It was in no way directed at you. You have your faith and beliefs and that's good if it gives you solace. But an atheist gets annoyed when their conclusions are not met with the same understanding. Surely, it is better to say these are my beliefs and this is my relationship with what I believe to be god, than, this is my truth and you should believe it too? Yes?
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  faith with out works is dead! my faith in the works is my faith! not by claim! me and you would be the same if I had no works with my faith, next when yousay conclusions ! I ask and gave him the floor to give me conclusions ! I got none! Many time in my posts as you have stated you know what I believe! I dont have to repeat myself for the point of no one approval ! I got my answer already ! by avoiding my question and attacking me Because he could not explain! I can make no one believe in God! and so what I believe is just as strong or more! and the statment this is my truth you should believe it to is not me! your opinion of statamentsm . we all come on these posts make our committs and ssome dislike opinion thats find! but it can get personal when the wrong thing said personal.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  What you believe is fine, it is yours, you own it. Your opponents cannot give real conclusions, that is why they do not have faith. Neither can you, but you do have faith, you cannot force it onto others.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ok that is clear and you are right ! but force here is not my inttention ! when I make my statment express my view like them now its forced ! my statment should not be censored as force becuse I dont take thier believe as forced, now what I dislike is the name calling because you believe in what you believe thats forced behavior.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Why not just accept that you have your beliefs, you don't need others to authenticate them, and allow others to have theirs. State that in your posts, these are my beliefs but they are not everyones and that's ok. Show understanding of others, and they will show understanding to you=) Yes?
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  first it has been proven my post has been used as a playground to poke fun ! what kind of understanding is that , that is not realistic because others are haveing the same problem perhaps you can give them the same advice see how they will take it! some else tried and they got attacked! the real world! .
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No one is using your post as a playground for poke and fun. So get real.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  yes and you know it fairies other names name it.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I get no fun out of dealing with people like yourself. Trust me, it's not any fun at all.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  personaly you speak for yourself and again that does not includ anothers action or opinion.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  you speak as though as you speak for others. whic my post are proof , that you speak untruth!
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Untruth? Girl, you wouldn't know what truth was if it bit you in the face.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Of course I speak for myself. It would be beyond my role in this world to speak for others. WOW!
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  Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Kiss and tales, if you post and you have a strong opinion, you will invoke strong opinions. That's not poking fun, it's a challenge to your way of thinking, because you are challenging the opinions of others. That's the way it is.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Then your statment you just made,( no one is using , means more then on spoken for) ! you contradict your words, proof.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I swear, you love to make a mountain out of a molehill. What a joke.
  
  When I said no one, it shows my observation. Boy do you have a lot to learn about communication.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hollie I understand that ! but who determines my opinion is strong? it just could be they have a answer no matter what I say! thats their right! but to say my statments are stupid ,dumb ,and others, are not fair! this is one sided to the post.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It is only true ,if you agree it is (which you clearly dont) so hey relax
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  YOU DO, when you type it out into words in a sentence.
  That could be possible considering the knowledge presently available to humankind.
  Actually, actions are judged. If an uninformed action happens, then it's judged.
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Romans814posted 12 years ago
What does ‘spiritually discern’ mean to the non-spiritual (non-Christian)?

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But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14, NKJV)
The Word of God; tells me to speak the ‘Truth’ in love. So, understand this; those who are ‘led by the Spirit of God; are sons of God (Romans 8:14). They’re marked by the ‘Blood of Jesus’ and by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of God).

The natural man (non-spiritual; non-Christian) doesn’t receive the ‘Truth of God’; because they don’t have the indwelling Holy Spirit. And, they’re not marked by the blood of Jesus. Therefore, they’re deceived from knowing God; from knowing His ‘Truth’; by Satan and his evil spirits. Satan is a master manipulator; who hates mankind; because, mankind was created in the’ images and likeness of God.’ So, Satan agenda is obvious…to steal, kill and destroy.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  thank you Like breath of fresh air! A good reminder!
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poeticmentorposted 12 years ago
wow. this is amazing. I will leave like this. The very thing(gravity, being conceived,) all these unexplained things you all debate over is GOD!!! ..If you cannot answer which came first the seed or the soil..you are dealing with the holy spirit. That is all. BLESSINGS TO ALL
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Really? There's nothing in this whole thread that isn't explained. So please.
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Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago
Romans814 wrote:

What does ‘spiritually discerned’ mean to the non-spiritual (non-Christian)?

Cags

Spiritually discerned is just another way for a person to admit that they have deceived themselves. wink

Eaglekiwi wrote:

Oh roll it was spiritual part that upset some of you huh wink

Upset? No.

I didnt bring YOU into it, you entered all by YOURSELF.

Your description above is therefore incorrect, with or without the word spiritual before it so there
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earnestshubposted 12 years ago
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