Which Church is the beast of Daniel 7:7-8

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   haj3396posted 12 years ago

   After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it [was] diverse from all the beasts that [were] before it; and it had ten horns.
   
   8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
   
   1. Idenifying mark, is it's the fouth kingdom that shall rise out the earth
   2. It shall be divfrse from all kingdom
   3. Had ten horn
   4. shall subdue three kings
   5. Shall speak great words the most high
   6.wear out the saints of the most high.
   7.Think to dhange times and law

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      recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds like the Industrial Revolution to me, with computers and media generally appearing.

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         recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I am reminded of the prophesy of Merlin in Britain - of a great serpent wound around Britain then diving beneath the (Avon) estuary with its head in Wales - that sounded much like the railway to me - I read this on the heels of Merlin's prophecy about a tree in Carmarthen, 'when it was removed the town would flood' and the town duly flooding the winter year after the stump was finally removed to make way for a housing estate or something.   I like to speculate that such predictions are not so hard for anyone who really contemplates these things, to watch the ancient town grow, constantly restricting the river and see that the development of a particular area (with its tree) as the straw that would break the camel's back as it were.

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            Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I hope Carmarthen doesn't flood. It's bad enough that Carmarthenshire County Council thinks its the only town in the county that matters thus the lack of investment in Llanelli where I live. A flood? Yet another excuse to spend all our council tax on themselves. Tuh.

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   Jeramiposted 12 years ago

   You chose the version in which Daniel is describing his dream.
   
     What does Gabriel say about it?

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   Jeramiposted 12 years ago

   The answer to your question is found in 7:23
   The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth (the Roman Empire)
   
     And the ten horns are ten kings out of this kingdom, and another shall arise AFTER them replacing three kings.
     We gotta question the exact translation here. The three being replaced would also have to be after the origional ten.
     Sense Titus who destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD, and there were three more emperors before Hadrian became the Last king to be given dominion over that Hebrew Nation, this would give an accurate understanding of the entire book of Daniel.
   
     The Answer to your question would HAVE TO be the Roman Empire.
   
     There are a number of places in the 'whole story' that when we interpret them wrong, all understanding is lost. This is one instance.
     Why do we interpret simple statements to mean something entirely different than what is written?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Soz Jeramo
               UR interpretation is all messed up.
      
      
      
      A kingdom is not the same as an Empire.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
                   Threfroe your interprtation and twisting of teh wurds to suit wot u want to give you some authprity is all out of whack.
      
      
      Scuse my lack of manners by not formatting to make it easily readable - I no u int lik ethat.
      
                      the 4th eempire woz teh Armenian Empire.   Sense that b th case - ur seem to have everything else messed up as well. innit?
      
      When you interpret these things wrong - all understanding is lost.  Why do you insist in interpreting simple statements to mean something else?
      
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      4 - Armenian Empire. They is the ones.
      
      Guess you have to redo all them calcumalashuns now huh?

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         Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Be happy and well..
         
           I always apreciate your insight.
         
           It is always good to see different points of view.
         
           Without them how can we have an overview.
         
           And happy easter to Ya too,

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      haj3396posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Great answer, you are right on, but notice my question, Which Church is the beast of Daniel 7:7-8. You got the kingdom right, but this kingdom was divirse from all other kingdoms, why, because it was a kingdom and a Church. Now what was the number one church at that time and you can answer my question?

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         Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You are correct "Kinda" and incorrect
         Your question was, which church was Daniel 7:7 & 8 talking about, and it wasn't talking about any church. This kingdom brought about the end days for that Nation which God had made a covenant with, which in turn received the best of Gods mercies; but in turn had no mercy for the son of God.
         
            412 years after this prophesy was given, the fourth kingdom rose to power.
         In 96 AD John received a different vision of the beast of which you speak.
         
            this fourth beast, spoken of in Daniel THEN created the beast of which you speak.
         
           In Rev. 13 it is said that the dragon will give this OTHER beast it's power and his seat.
           It can be said that when the RCC was first established, Constantine gave it power and when Constantine gave his palace in Rome to it, he gave it his seat.
            Constantine gave the RCC power and his seat.
            When the RCC was first established, the Roman Empire was divided into seven districts, each district having their own religious leader (Bishop/Pope)  These seven districts were further divided into three regions, each region being assigned another Pope. These were giver authority in that region concerning religious matters. However the Emperor was first established as the ultimate authority.
         
           Seven districts (heads) and ten Popes (leaders or Crowns)
          
           You are semi correct in your analogy though the two distinctly different prophesy are talking about two distinctly different organizations.
           However, one beast took total power from the first.
           And it lived many many years; and had many daughters.

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