Free will or fate?

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   janesixposted 11 years ago

   What do you believe?

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      jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There is no free will nor fate.

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         janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         What else is there?

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            jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Accidents!!

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               paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               That's fate.

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                  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Come to think of it, it can also be free will if one engages in risky behaviour.

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                     jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     If a drunken driver hit you, is it your free will or his?

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                        paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        My fate, his free will.

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                           jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           Nobody determined you should get hit, a drunken one has no will, let alone free!!

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                              paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              The driver made the choice to engage in risky behaviour. That is free will.
                              
                              Probability decided that I was the one to be hit. That's fate.

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                                 jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 That is just it, probability and random chance.
                                 The drivers fate and your will!

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                                    paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Probability is how God controls the universe. That way, it's never His fault you see...

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                  jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Fate is "force predetermining events", there is no predetermination. A gazelle is killed by lion or escape from the lion, is just accident, neither the gazelle have the free will that help it to escape, neither there is a fate that determine it to be the food of the lion.

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               Eric Newlandposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               That's why you house-train them, so there will be no more accidents. That's free will.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   There is both free will and fate.

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      edhanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. I agree that it is both free will and fate.
      
      We can change our destiny of fate as well in terms of Feng Shui.

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         janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         How do you know your destiny in order to change it?

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            paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I looked straight up and it was a big, falling rock. Unfortunately, stepping aside is not an option. I've got to figure out a way to crawl over the big, brick fence that surrounds me.

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            edhanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Feng Shui tells us about our obstacles and we will act upon it to avoid or reduce the effect. That is if you believe in Feng Shui.
            
            I tried it and have witnessed the effect of Feng Shui. Basically, it is all about the Qi energy flow within your house as well as your personal Bazi.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   Free will: The decision to apply for a loan.
   
   Fate: Whether the loan is approved or not.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   Free will: The decision to apply for a job.
   
   Fate: Whether one is hired or not.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   Free will: The decision to bet red or black.
   
   Fate: Whether you are right or not.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   Free will: The decision to make a bunch of posts on this thread to run all my God-titled posts off the frontpage-hubtivity on my profile page.
   
   Fate: Looks promising

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   Free will: Deciding to take a break.
   
   Fate: Permitted it.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   Free will: The decision to complete this task.
   
   Fate: Permitted completion of task.

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      jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Free will is the ability of agents to make choices free from certain kinds of constraints.
      Destiny or fate is a predetermined course of events. It may be conceived as a predetermined future, whether in general or of an individual
      
      Just as I told, the Gazelle has the free will to run or not, but has no free will not to be eaten by the lion. There is no predetermination that the gazelle be eaten by the lion, depends on who can out run whom. Just catching the gazelle will not ensure that the lion is able to eat it. If the lion can eat it, it survive and tell the story, if not nobody knows about it.

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         jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Free will: our Arrogance that we have control on our destiny.
         Fate: our Hope that destiny will be in our control.

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