First off I want to say I'm not against atheism and I am not religious at all. I do believe in a higher power and I do have my own beliefs on that but not following any major religion, having said that.
I find that religion is based on belief system, cultural system and well atheism has a belief of nothingness and culturally individuals who are atheist would live and probably try to influence others on living life as materialistic since there is the belief of no spiritualism or entity beyond death.
or how would you categorize atheism?
I would categorize it by using the correct meaning of the word.
Lack of belief in a god.
How is this a religion exactly? And how is living life to the fullest because that is all there is "materialistic."? I am confused.
I think a wise person put it well:
Atheism is no more a religion than health is a disease.
I believe you ARE religious
You believe in things based upon faith, yet you assert that you are not religious. Is the basis of your beliefs the bible?
Reality is reality...not a belief system.
A person who is agnostic or atheist is a free thinker and a former Christian in most cases. Chances are they know more about the Bible and Christianity better than most Christians. They believe in physical evidence rather than believing a story without question. As far as "would live and probably try to influence others on living life as materialistic since there is the belief of no spiritualism or entity beyond death", I think an agnostic or athiest would be more interested in living a full life than pushing their beliefs on other (would be a watse of time) like most Christians.
Why do atheists fight so hard to bash Christians about their beliefs, if they are not trying to push their atheists beliefs on others? I am a Christian and I want you to believe for your own benefit, I can not push that on you, you have to make that decision on your own for it to mean anything. True Christians don't want you to go to hell. There is no benefit to me,
Actually Atheists don't push their beliefs on anyone. Atheists try to reason with those who are usually solidified in their belief in a G/god, because Atheism is a Lack of belief in a G/god. They point out the irrationality of believing in any G/god for any reason. Hence, the belief in a G/god isn't rational.
Does that include deceiving yourself, just because it suits you?
See, saying things like this is why Atheists jump on Christians(or religious folk). You speak of place you've not been. You speak of that same place, as if it's a real place. You speak of an ALMIGHTY G/god who is going to pass judgment, once you're dead? When consciousness ceases to exist, so do you.
Sure there is. There's always a benefit from an action, which you think would be beneficial for others.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach that man to fish and you feed him for life.
I use this example, only to point out something specific. If you teach a man to fish, not only do you feed him for life, but you also feel good that you taught the man something which can sustain his life in to the future, regardless of how long. You get something in return. You always get something.
I'm just trying to figure out why many of the atheists that post on these forums are so nasty and downgrading to Christians about something you just don't believe in. Why is the opposition so strong?
Btw- I'm not Atheist. I could be perceived as one, or even an Agnostic maybe. But, I don't affiliate toward any religious belief. If you want talk about religion- the only religion I have in my life is life.
Secondly, you and everyone else, give words power over you/them. You see it as downgrading? Or degrading? I'm assuming you meant degrading because "nasty" was another of your chosen words. I can only assume you're putting them together to describe Atheists' actions.
Why? Because, the best interest of the world is actually as stake. If there are too many people running around rampant and irrational, then they are not likely walking with Jesus. They are quite the opposite.
Many religious folk feel it is a need to spread their belief and tell other people that if they don't believe as they do, then bad things will happen.
Those bad things are supposedly handed down by a G/god. Which is the irrationality that Atheist will always address.
Ok I can buy your explanation. Because I am a Christian, I am told by Jesus in the Bible to go out and share the Gospel with everyone. Christianity unlike like Islam doesn't teach that people must convert or they are the enemy. I want you to believe what I believe, but I have no animosity toward you if you don't.
Then there's hope for you yet.
I'm sure you we're told this. You were never told to share written words. You were told to teach and spread Jesus' teachings to others, but before you could learn them, they were put to paper.
If you get Jesus' overall message of Love thy neighbor, as you love thyself and have compassion for those who do not know how. Then, you've fulfilled the work to be done. You show someone how to love themselves, through your own love for yourself. This is done through honest actions and dealings with others. One must understand themselves and their own life before they can truly love themselves.
I know, I lived most of my life indifferent. Then I learned acceptance, which taught me to be tolerant, trusting, forgiving and loved by me. I make no bones about who I am or what my purpose in life is. I make no excuses. None of my actions are void of conscience or responsibility. I understand that my actions will have a two-fold effect- (a) consequences and (b) a reaction from society, even if that reaction is on an individual level, it's reaction regardless.
Islam is another story altogether.
And, I'm just expressing that it's irrational to believe and I'll leave with two little statements.
Life doesn't require any knowledge of any G/god to be lived.
Life doesn't require any knowledge of any G/god to be understood.
You can live your entire life without having any knowledge of a G/god. You can also completely understand your life and again no knowledge of G/god is needed.
As far as your life on earth, that is true, you can live your entire life not knowing or understanding anything about God. The main difference in what we believe is what happens after your life is over.
Why do you believe that there is nothing after you die?
Because, as I understand human consciousness ceases when dead(brain dead). If your brain isn't active, then there will be no consciousness of any kind.
Therefore, no life after death.
What if there is something other than consciousness in us that doesn't cease when the body dies? if we only use a tiny part of our brains, is it possible that there are many things that we don't know?
What IF until your blue in the face. At this present point in time, there's nothing to suggest there's anything other than consciousness, which people use as "spirit".
Yes, I'm not doubting there is more to learn. However, it's BS that we use only a tiny part of our brain. Our whole brain is operational. But, specific parts of it works when accessed. No one on the planet can access every molecule of space in the brain. (i.e. check out the movie Limitless if you get a chance- it's an awesome movie)
Having said, the brain is always active until blood stops flowing to it. At which time, you will become brain dead and consciousness will cease to exist.
What if God burns believers for only using a tiny part of their brain?
This is why : Ephesians 6:12
For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.
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