24 Hours For Ads? Yeah Right!

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   Nell Roseposted 11 years ago

   I don't often moan but even I am getting a bit fed up of the 'waiting' period. I thought it was 24 hours? I have recently published a hub that, by the time the ads come up, everybody who is going to read it has read it, in other words any chance of ad clicks has disappeared. Please can you either put the ads straight on, or at least keep to the 24 hours, my hub was written on monday, its now wednesday night! A long time over 24 hours! getting slightly peeved now! and no I haven't gone into the hub to change anything! I have left it alone since writing it. Thats it, moan over! Anybody else getting peed off?

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      theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Nell! Only going by my own experience here but the only people who visit my non-featured hubs before they go 'live' are hubbers. And they aren't going to click on ads. I take the long view... what's a few days when the hub will exist for (hopefully) years, attracting (more hopefully) Google traffic.

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         teaches12345posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I just noticed the missing ad displays on my last post.  At least I know it is not just me!

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      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think you've quite understood how the system is working, Nell.
      
      When you first publish your Hub, it has a tag attached telling Google to ignore it ("no follow").  So during that time (i.e the first 24 hours, but could be longer), the only people who will know your Hub exists are your followers.  They're not likely to click on ads anyway.
      
      If your Hub is approved, you'll see a big "H" next to it on your Account page, the ads will appear and the Hub is visible to search engines.  If there's no "H", the Hub hasn't passed the QAP, it's still "no follow" and there's no point in having ads on it, because you won't be getting any visitors.
      
      If you're sending out links to friends, posting on Facebook etc, the thing to do is wait until you see the H appear before you do that.

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         Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Marissa, I understand, it was just that normally by now I would have got the big H, just wondered why it still hadn't happened.

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   Huntgoddessposted 11 years ago

   I don't know why followers would be less likely to click on ads than others, as Marisa says above?

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      Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      followers are not supposed to click on other peoples ads because its against the rules. The reason being, I would imagine is that the 'tit for tat' thing may happen, but I am sure we all do it sometimes if we spot something we like, but its not really allowed.

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         aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         That is true, but if you have HP ads turned on, you earn mostly from them rather than Adsense ads, and you earn by impressions.  My impression is the program doesn't discriminate between hubbers and non-hubbers.  Before ads were turned off on pending hubs,  when you published a hub, your followers come to read it and you used to earn from these impressions.  Now you don't.
         
         Although taking the long term view, 1000 impressions earns between $2-5 so I guess your not missing out on that much money.  Unless you have thousands of followers and they religiously read everything you publish.  Most people hope hubs will earn a lot more than that over time from organic search, but I agree it is annoying.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Exactly. If the bulk of your visitors are your followers, then you're hardly making money anyway.

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               Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Good point Marisa, it was just annoying thats all. I do earn from google traffic so its not too bad, I just liked the old system! lol!

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         tillsontitanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I don't think that's right Nell.  I recently read where Simone said it was okay to click on ads in other hubbers hubs if you really want to order something.

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            fpherj48posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I'd double check that info with one or two others associated with HP people "in the know."  I say this because there are 2 hubbers that I know of who were rendered totally useless in terms of making money....ANY money, ever again, BECAUSE ANOTHER HUBBER CLICKED ON HIS ADS NUMEROUS TIMES.... The other hubber was banned entirely, due to the same reason.    I never trust what I hear without digging deeper......better safe than sorry?

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               Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               It's OK to click on an another Hubber's ad if you are genuinely interested in it. 
               
               The Hubbers you mention got into trouble because they were repeatedly clicking on ads - not because they had a genuine interest in the item for sale, but because they wanted to generate ad income for the other Hubber.   If Google thinks you're encouraging people to click on your ads to create artificial income, you will lose your Adsense account forever.
               
               That's why it's generally safer to tell friends not to click on your ads, because they are so inclined to think they're being helpful by clicking on them more than they really need to - and that's dangerous.

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                  Marina Lazarevicposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Exactly. There is a difference between clicking on an ad out of genuine interest, as Marisa says, and intentionally clicking on ads to boost yours/someone else's earnings. Google detects this (fairly easily) and will ban from AdSense. The AdSense Help Center is a great resource for these types of questions.

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                     Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Hi Marina, yeah this wasn't really the question, I just really wanted to know why my hub was still waiting and going through the holding period of the hub three days later compared to 24 hours? it still has no ads, I was aware of the 'no clicking' of the ads obviously. I just wanted to know why my hub is still waiting nearly 4 days later now, thanks

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                        Marina Lazarevicposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Which Hub was it? I'll check and see what happened there. 3 days is on the long side.

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               Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks for clearing that up guys, but it seems that the pending thing has got stuck anyway, mine still hasn't cleared even though its got up to 80 on the read scale! ho hum!

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            SimeyCposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            It's OK to click on Amazon Ads - as there is no benefit unless a sale is actually made.....clicking on Google Ads is a big no no!

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         Huntgoddessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Sheesh!! I never even knew about that rule. Where does it say that?
         
         I hardly ever click anything anyway, because I have no time or $$ to do so. But, I might have clicked here and there. I had no clue.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Because other hubbers are not allowed to click on each others ads.

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   2uesdayposted 11 years ago

   I just noticed an additional change to do with our ads. on hubs.  I hope Nell will not mind me adding the link here in case the official announcement  gets missed.
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/106648

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      Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Oh my goodness! this just confuses me more! I never took any notice of this, I thought it was automatic!

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         Huntgoddessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I agree. It's kind of getting bizarre.
         
         I have a learning disability. There's just simply NO WAY I could understand all this, assuming I even had the time, which I don't.
         
         I'm actually becoming slightly less interested in writing for Hubpages each day. Not that I ever cared about the money anyway, but I'm feeling scared and creeped out by their new slightly totalitarian regime.
         
         I hope they don't ban me for saying that.
         
         If so ---- adieu, kind friends and Hubbers :-))
         
         Write good English :-) Make lots of $$$ :-)) Perhaps we will meet again? In a new freelance universe where Google is uninvolved.

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            Huntgoddessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            PS:  I know that "write good" is ungrammatical. That was the joke.
            
            Don't hate me.

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               Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Hi Hunt, lol! don't worry, we all get confused with it, I just looked and for some reason beyond me, my stupid hub is Still Pending! theres nothing wrong with it, so what the fog is going on?!!!

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                  theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Nell, have you edited it since first publish? Editing keeps it in pending longer.

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                     Nell Roseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Hi ragged, no, not touched it, maybe they don't want me to have ads on it. never mind, I will just forget it now. but it was a puzzle.

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                        Marina Lazarevicposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Nell, is your Hub still pending? Editing restarts the 24-hour clock on pending mode, but it sounds like you did not make any. So that we can confirm what happened, which Hub is it that you're referring to?

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   tlpoagueposted 11 years ago

   Looks like I have more work cut out for me. Is any of these in the Learning Center to understand it better?

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