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Why Have A Title?

  1. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    -Why do so many look for a title to classify themselves in? Why does there have to be a title of what someone believes? Why do so many accept having titles?

    1. manlypoetryman profile image74
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Amen to that...Marine Always...What does it mean to have a title. We are labeled through elementary school-high school- college- then we turn around and work so hard to have a title by our name at the job. Then...in our spare time...we call ourselves by other titles amongst ourselves...WTF? I don't want a title! I want to work hard, get a check, go home, enjoy the family, enjoy the out of doors...enjoy what it is that I cherish and believe...and I want to not be fr-ck-n' labeled...or be put under a gosh-dang title! I am perfectly willing to accept other peoples titles...until they decide they want to blow my _ss away! And I would not mind a reasonable discussion on what I  believe or you believe...or what your particular "title" is... or what flag you're under...just as long as at the end of it...we had some sort of productive understanding...amongst each other.

      Otherwise: Who gives a damn about anyone elses title?

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good thoughts you added. Maybe the title thing is to classify and recognize different individuals and to make people feel different from one another. I think that is the problem. Everyone lives by title instead of individualism.

        1. manlypoetryman profile image74
          manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah...and what happens when someone mis-labels someone else...judges someone in the wrong light...and/or thinks they are superior because of their title...That is complete B.S. to me. Deep down in critical points in my life where this has happened to me I want to just go: "Let's go...mano-to-mano...on another open playing field...and see how far that title you have...and/or the label you just gave me...takes you!" That's how I feel right after someone has mis-labeled me...or put their own subjective title to me! (and when they do it to anyone else) yet...even after saying that... I am sure I have probably done the same thing...to alot of other folks!

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            If we didn't have titles for ourselves and everything about us, we wouldn't have to worry about that. lol

    2. robertsloan2 profile image100
      robertsloan2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      A title is a hook to draw readers in. It's also the very shortest synopsis there is sometimes -- that's a type of title, the "headline" title can give the main point of your article in a few keywords so that people actively searching for it can find it easily. When I look at new Hubs, I'm not always looking by author.

      I'm looking for topic and also for slant. I'm not interested in certain ideas. "A Christian View of Theology" would not interest me because I'm not Christian, but "A Multicultural View of Theology" might get me interested in seeing whether it looked at a wide variety of religions, I enjoy Comparative Religion.

      So the title is very useful to an author. It's a hook that can get readers to choose your article over others in the same topic or category. If it expresses your point of view as concisely as the topic then it will draw readers who won't be disappointed.

      "Welfare Fraud Burns Me Up" is a very different topic from "Welfare fraud" by itself or "Welfare Fraud is Overestimated."

      Something in art instruction, one of my specialties, could be "How to draw a cat" -- and it would be a more effective title if it was "How to draw a manga cat" or "How to draw a Pokemon cat" if that's what it was. I like realistic drawing so I might skip the pokemon or manga articles in favor of the general cat drawing. "How to draw a realistic cat" would definitely get my click.

      Titles are all about creating your personal niche. Once a reader likes several of your articles and enjoys your slant and style, they may well become a fan and get an email feed to see more of what they like.

      All writers do have a slant. You have ideas about life, the universe and everything from what soap to use to hov the government should be run. Those ideas emerge in your writing, even someone committed to "journalistic objectivity" is expressing a very strong specific slant. Some readers will like it more than others.

      Accurate titling is a good way to get and keep your core readers -- the ones who specifically like your ideas and writing style. Online, it also gets sifted for keywords. Coming up with good titles that both contain a lot of keywords and make sense to people is an art in itself, an underappreciated form of poetry.

      Those are some good reasons titles are important.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ah, my fault for not asking a specific question. I agree to the uses of titles in writing or inanimate objects. I am disagreeing to the titles of lives and beliefs.

    3. andromida profile image73
      andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think the root reason of your question lies somewhat in the social class system of our society-there is a clear distinction between the high class and low class people.Moreover, every human wants to be unique and wants his work get recognized by others.What is the best way to serve this human nature than giving titles.In fact titles help us to recognize the quality of people.Thanks marin for choosing this excellent topic,now I am thinking of  writing a hub on it.smile

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Don't forget  to include me ... I'm Prince Charming big_smile

        1. andromida profile image73
          andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Oh sure, you are..smile

      2. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I usually agree with you, but I have to disagree when you say the titles often help us recognize the quality of people. I think titles are mainly misleading for this very reason. If someone has the title of a cop, does this mean they are working for the people looking to help whenever possible? We don't know, all we have is the title. It could be a good cop or it could be a bad cop. Titles equal assumptions most often. We all know where assumptions usually lead. lol

        1. andromida profile image73
          andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Well said and very good point ,Marine.If you mean a generic position or rank by title then you are right e.g cop.For example,if there are two man in my city with the same name David, suppose one is very kind-known as "David the kind",whereas the other David is very short tempered by nature who is called by people as "the angry young man".In this case both the titles help us to recognize the specialty of character of each David.I think assumption is the prior event of giving any title.It doesn't necessarily mean that all the assumptions will be right or wrong-because its based on some observational events or incidents in case of human behavior.Nonetheless, assumption give us a clue or hints what is important to us.smile

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I agree that assumptions can often give clues or hints that lead to the truth. However, I think they are misleading for the most part. Maybe the "assumptions" is the core of the problem with the "titles". Thanks for adding your thoughts.

    4. fierycj profile image85
      fierycjposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I dont accept titles. I'm content with being Fiery!

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good man. I only accept them when I have to.

  2. JamesCurtis profile image59
    JamesCurtisposted 7 years ago

    Because we communicate with language and need labels to describe things.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You think you are a thing?

  3. manlypoetryman profile image74
    manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago

    Amen again...Marine Always!

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Amen to the rebellion of titles! lol

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I love titles !! I'm Prince Charming, The Lord of the Rings, and King Midas big_smile

        1. goodfriendiam profile image59
          goodfriendiamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Ya and I am the Queen of Sheba....lol...I'm following you...lol

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you too! lol

          2. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hi Queen of Sheba!  Welcome to the club!

            1. goodfriendiam profile image59
              goodfriendiamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Is there benefits to this club?

              1. tantrum profile image61
                tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You have your title, what else can you possibly want ? big_smile

                1. goodfriendiam profile image59
                  goodfriendiamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  oh but I need a king to stand by my side. To stand alone is depressing, but a good king well there is not enough room to tell ya. smile

                  1. tantrum profile image61
                    tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      So it has to be King David ...now, who's that king here in hubpages ? big_smile

              2. robertsloan2 profile image100
                robertsloan2posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                These are more like taglines and usernamen, they're useful to show a person's ideas and personality. Shorthand little introductions.

                I'm that crooked short man in black covered in cat hair, Ari's Human.

        2. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol you would rebel against the rebellion of titles just to be complicated.

  4. profile image0
    Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago

    I am an outsider, a writer, and your worse nightmare when mad. lmao Those are my titles...oh and when with my best friend double trouble big_smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol all these titles are making me dizzy.

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        Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good HAHAHAH get dizzy. lmao just playing with ya marine...or am I? Hmmmm....

    2. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You need a proper title ... Cleopatra, Queen of the Nile big_smile

      1. profile image0
        Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        OOOO I can handle that one. Thanks tantrum From now On I am Cleopatra hehehe

  5. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    If not, where is the fun ??!! big_smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Can't argue that.

  6. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Thanks Guys and Girls for proving my point of how/why most of us like titles. lol

    1. goodfriendiam profile image59
      goodfriendiamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      good point taken, doesn't mean we need to stand in or near a rotten title. big_smile

  7. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I think we use the titles to take us out of reality. lol

    1. goodfriendiam profile image59
      goodfriendiamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I would rather be there, then here, or over there, or dead...lol

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        What if the "there" keeps us from getting to the "here"? Isn't the goal to get the the "here"?

        1. goodfriendiam profile image59
          goodfriendiamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          absolutely! 100% and nothing will stop me from going from here to there, "they" may try to take me down, but I am much smarter then them. Does that sound cocky? Cause I don't mean it to.....lol.

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol I thought you was trying to get to the "here" instead of the "there". I'm confused now.

  8. livewithrichard profile image85
    livewithrichardposted 7 years ago

    I think there is little difference between us giving ourselves labels and others labeling us.

    We label ourselves to stand out from the crowd. To be identified as being uniquely you. Few want to stand out, but most want to blend in.  Think about here at HP where there are  88000+ hubbers.  Those that want to stand out and show our labels are here in the forums and you see us most days.  How many are here just blending in?

    Other's label us too to make us stand out but for completely different motives.  Some want to show just how different we are from them.  Examples here at HP include all the threads that include: favorite hubber, sexiest hubber, craziest hubber, troll, sock puppet, newbie, spammer, etc...

    Labels and titles make everything neat and categorized.  It places everything and everyone "inside the box." As we know, the most creative and successful people are those that are "outside the box." smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Very Well Thought Comment, Thanks for adding that Richard. Gave an excellent and true perspective.

  9. Ms Chievous profile image82
    Ms Chievousposted 7 years ago

    Are we talking aboput sterotypes.. the labels other give us?

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Both

  10. profile image0
    \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago

    I don,t have a title or even ever wanted one, but after reading this thread i think i would like one now,,,,,, to make me feel important

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lmao excellent

    2. livewithrichard profile image85
      livewithrichardposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ahhh Brenda, you are important and an asset to this community...There I just gave you a label smile

  11. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I'm happy being a St. Bernard! lol

  12. manlypoetryman profile image74
    manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago

    IMHO: I think they can be the same...in many instances. Not all instances...But consider a Pushy Boss at work...what traits and stereo-types...does he or she fit into a set stereotype or then...trait? What about someone who doesn't try hard to work for a living...what  traits and stereotypes does that person fall into? Point being: Maybe you can't have one without the other. Titles> Stereotypes> than just being yourself. (that type of deal...for instance) Maybe...Marine Always...opened up the whole can of worms with this one!

    1. Ms Chievous profile image82
      Ms Chievousposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I have always percieved a title is what we give ourselves.. such as ourt screen names.. they are our titles  because it is what we want ot present to the community.  I have always thought as sterotypes as something society  pushes on us or others..
      Marine always seems to like to open up the can o worms often ;D

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I wouldn't want the worms to suffocate. lol

        The titles also have bad and false perceptions at times. Mine for instance. I'm sure some probably stereotype me as a person that likes to shoot and kill based on my profile name.

        1. Ms Chievous profile image82
          Ms Chievousposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I always just envisioned you had a short haircut!  big_smile

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol see, the visions of titles.

  13. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Any thoughts on how titles affect politics?


    I see all of the bad sides to the titles. Where are the good sides to a title of life and belief?

    1. manlypoetryman profile image74
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh Hell ya'...Why you going to send two years...talking to everyone imaginable...getting slammed at every point by someone....watching every word you say...making two or three speeches a day...having your entire life investigated...and trying to please as many people as possible? Answer: For a title!

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I think titles are like getting locked up. When locked up, you would still have a title, "convict".

    2. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe Queen Elizabeth can answer to that ! big_smile

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Queen certainly is a royal title to hold for those who wish to live by a title. Or it can be a horrible seperation of lives that are born to royalty compared to those born poor. Depending on which perspective is looked at.

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It looks  she's on the good side.  The good perspective of life big_smile  Money and titles

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            My good perspective of titles....Life without titles. However, I don't think the Queen would agree to being a peasant? lol

            1. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I wouldn't either lol

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Ahhhh... Everyone wants to be a King or Queen. The land of titles and favoritism. Sounds like a story huh?

  14. waynet profile image51
    waynetposted 7 years ago

    That's the way life is...

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      ...for those who choose to live by titles.

  15. frogdropping profile image86
    frogdroppingposted 7 years ago

    Are names titles marine?

    If so, I like mine. It's usually quite useful. It grabs my attention (as a rule) and it identifies me.

    It doesn't define me, granted. But it is a rather handy.

    And no, I don't mean my hubname. I can't hear that being said wink

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think a name is 1 of the few titles needed.

      1. frogdropping profile image86
        frogdroppingposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ah. Jolly good. Like I said, I like mine and would hate to start having to anser to 'oi' or worse smile

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol "oi" huh. Thanks, you listed one of the only positives I have seen to a title which is your name.

  16. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    The story of my life ! big_smile Blue blood runs in my vains...and that's not because I'm 'dying' ! lol

    1. profile image0
      \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      why is it because you support manchester city football team

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          no. Because I'm Prince Charming ! lol

        1. profile image0
          \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          er what is blue about that..........

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            blue blood< nobility
            tantrum< prince charming lol

            1. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              red balls > blue balls lol

              1. tantrum profile image61
                tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
                1. marinealways24 profile image60
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  lmao Do I really have to explain this one? What did I get myself into?

                2. profile image0
                  \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  17. Rochelle Frank profile image89
    Rochelle Frankposted 7 years ago

    So, why then, have all of you invented titles like marinealways and manypoetryman next to your avatars?

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Because we are an unaware society of titles.

      1. manlypoetryman profile image74
        manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That's got to be the short answer...But also...it was one I chose for me personally after some thought. For a Marine, Rochelle...there are no former Marines...They are a Marine for always...it's a way of life...and deff (as BC always says-I like deff-cause I'm always thinking I'm going to misspell definitely) a Marine tha'ng!

  18. AEvans profile image72
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    Titles identify who you are but in retrospect my title is Wife,Mother and Nurse just a basic title that is befitting to me. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Honerable titles.

  19. Lisa HW profile image83
    Lisa HWposted 7 years ago

    Titles have their practical purpose in society; but I think the key is not to allow titles to define us or others beyond that practical purpose.  Someone could have the title, "President of Munchkinland", and everyone will know s/he has the role/job of "president of Munchkinland".  The title tells us nothing about his/her character, intelligence, or anything else.  What too many people do is allow titles to do define themselves or others.

    In fact, a title like "World Champ" only tells us someone has become Number 1 among those who actually competed in the competition.  It says nothing about who else was out there and better, but just didn't compete (for any number of different reasons).  The title, "CEO", of a huge company only tells us that one, isolated (and usually temporary), role of a person - nothing else.  People too often assign all kinds of unrelated attributes to those who have on title or another, rather than sort out what that title actually means.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ahhh, If we didn't have and use so many titles, we wouldn't have all of the assumptions.

  20. XTASIS profile image60
    XTASISposted 7 years ago

    I'm the Lady of Ecstasy

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Works for me! lol

  21. Eaglekiwi profile image75
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Yea I am too ,then I wake up lol

    Titles are helpful things to have sometimes, doctor,lawyer, candlestick maker etc.

    And for fun.

    But abbreviations I hate choosing: Grrrrr...

    Mr
    Mrs
    Ms
    Other

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Why are some titles more helpful than others? This is favoritism in the assumptions of titles. Because someone is a doctor or lawyer, should their word be favored by their title over others in an instance not related to their study?

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I just learned last night that Queen Elisabeth had bestowed the Knighthood on Teddy Kennedy. That would give him the title of Sir. I thought there was a law against that. No American politician should bear a title like that or IMO should one accept it.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Was looking for your hub about the heart. Which one is it?

  23. profile image0
    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I don't know. Did I lose it? LOL Oh, yes, I will be doing that soon. haha, I almost forgot what you meant. Just don't know yet how I will approach it yet. Don't want to be boring about it or too technical. But for you marine, I will do it. thanks

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      My fault. I thought you had already written it. Get on the ball! lol jk. I will be sure to read when you are done writing it. Thanks.

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    Linda Kabanposted 7 years ago

    Talk about synchronicity. I just joined HubPages 4 days ago and my very first Hub was about what we call ourselves. I get sick of the titles too.

    Recently at a party someone asked me what I do. I replied, "I live." Yah. Didn't go over so well. So I said, "Kidding. I'm a Life Coach."

    All of a sudden my WORTH in that person's eyes had risen.

    Next time I have an opportunity like that, I'm going to reply, "I'm an Aspiration Strategist."

    Oh yah. Then I'll REALLY be worth something smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol

      Excellent comment. I love your philosophy of not wanting to be labeled or titled. You brightened my morning and won another fan. Thanks.

      1. profile image0
        Linda Kabanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You're welcome. You've got a fan too smile

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Thank You! Um...We just titled ourselves as "fans" lol Damn titles. I am happy with the title of your fan though. Looks like you are full of life!

 
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