Has Anyone Ever Gotten A Job From A poor Person?

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   Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years ago

   I just wanted to find the answer. How did that person pay you?

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      darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Are you trying to figure out a way to pay someone?

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      dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Apparently Obama has. He's been working for ACORN for years of the backs of Chicago Poor. From where he is now, I'd say it paid well too!

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks!

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      rednckwmnposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      when I was 17, I had a friend, her mother had a stroke, and was in a wheel chair. She (my friend) had to all the housework. My friend had 2 sisters, under the ageof 10 at the time...I, cleaned houses for a job. Her step father hired me, to help her out. They wanted to pay me cash, I suppose they would have gone without in some area to do this, I refused it. They fought me on it. So, to avoid hurting thier pride, I took the money, then gave it back to my friend at school, so she could buy a lunch.
      Oh, wait..define poor?

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Not only good looking, but hard working and integrity. I bet you turned out just fine.

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   tim-timposted 14 years ago

   I have not but to answer your question, bartering is the best way in this case. In fact, with the economy, it is good way of trading skills.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Bartering will probably be a one time thing. How would you pay rent, buy food, take care of your family, etc. I don't think bartering would do it.

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   RooBeeposted 14 years ago

   What is your definition of poor? Is this hypothetical, or is there a real-life situation you're referring to? I'd love to give some input but I feel like I need more info.
   I've worked for people who were struggling. One company to this day has never paid me my last two checks (but I never went after them as it was a family business and they had lots of kids - enough problems without me demanding they pay me back on top of it all).
   
   I know you have worked in corporate America for many years, so maybe you are asking to make a point that you already have in mind?
   I'll check back and see where this goes and whether I have any valid input (which is doubtful lol).
   But, I am going camping....I promise I'll stop back in first, though. 
   See ya in a bit!

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   Aya Katzposted 14 years ago

   I am poor, and I offer internships with Project Bow. People volunteer to work with Bow, a seven and one half old chimpanzee, in return for room and board, because I can't pay them a salary.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Internships do not pay money. Would you say you are exploiting others to accomplish what you need to? Yous money making sounds like this the life you chose, I applaud that. America should equal choice.

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         Aya Katzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Harvey, I'm not exploiting anyone, because everyone has a choice whether to apply for the internship or not. I choose only the best candidates available. I offer a unique opportunity available nowhere else. 
         
         Mine is not a money-making venture. My undertaking has no economic value to anyone, but a great deal of intrinsic interest.
         
         If you have time, you might want to read my recent hub, entitled "What is Work?" A lot of people seem to be confused about the answer.

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            Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Must admit, Aya, if I was a younger man with fewer responsibilities, I would jump at the chance to work with Bow. I wish that we had met a few years ago!

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               Aya Katzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Too bad, Sufi. We could have used the help. But maybe we can still ask for free advice on concrete sealants! ;->

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            Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You made my point for me. Work hard, be the best and you will be sought out.

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   darksideposted 14 years ago

   What kind of job are you talking about anyway? A head position, or were you given a hand?

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I was born into a poor family from the South Bronx. I started working at nine years old, I always worked hard like everyone I knew. Paid my student loans and worked harder. Does a 60-80 hour week sound like I had it easy? Some weeks were longer, but they were necessary. I'm not talking about being paid overtime.
      Of course I had help on the way up, everyone does. When an upper level person sees your work and like it, they should want you promoted.
      
      Did you think I had rich parents. My dad went bankrupt twice to help get me to college. Life was so easy!

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         Aya Katzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
         What happened to your Dad's creditors? Were they ever paid in full?

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            Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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   Aya Katzposted 14 years ago

   Darkside, I couldn't tell for sure if you were asking Harvey Stelman or me? In my case, interns help with research, caretaking, filming and file written reports.

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      darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I was responding to Harvey, but I do find your Project Bow very interesting. Do you have a hub on it?

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         Aya Katzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Darkside, I do have many hubs about Project Bow. One that might shed some light on the volunteer position I offer is entitled "So you want to work with Bow..." I won't post a link, so as not to be overly promotional.
         
         As for the subject of this thread, can a poor person employ another, the answer is "yes." In fact, in days gone by many people who were in financial straits themselves employed others in their homes. This was before you had to provide benefits, so just having a roof over the employee's head and food to eat was enough.

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I was going to ask you for a donation to the charity I started, I decided not to, I'm a bad person!

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   Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

   Define poor.... Does debt define poverty?  What about a small starting business funded by a loan for someone (who if unable to pay automatically becomes poor)?
   
   I sense a stupid political discussion about how the lower class doesn't matter.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm thinking it's going to be about that we have to let big business do whatever they want and that they should not have to pay income tax. And, that all the poor are lazy and that it's their own fault. Am I close?

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Since I started this thrad, I'll answer that. What you suggest is not my point at all. So I'll address your comment. If you do not want big business to succeed, workers will get layed off, less product will be produced, supply and demand will cause prices to go up, the consumer will not be able to purchase these goods, the gov't will collect less taxes, taxes on individuals will go up; is this what you want? It's what you're getting.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Read my comments  and you will see that is not the case..

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