Genuine Query (No really) - Hub Ageing or Aging

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   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

   I have noticed hubbers with experience talk about letting articles age - and they will start to gain visitors.  I don't understand this.  Check out key words, write it and 24 hours later it's on Google.
   
   So how does this ageing or aging process work? Please.

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      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Basically, the older an article or page gets, the more impressed google is with it.
      
      That's why, when you google something like a technical question, you'll often end up on a forum with a reply written in 2006.
      
      I think an image would be more likely to explain this:
      
      
      
      It's one of my first hubs before I knew anything about backlinking or keywords or optimisation. LoL. I got lucky.

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, 72 hours later you may find that it is impossible to find on Google.. you get a little boost for newness, but that can go away quickly.
      
      If a page is good, over time it will attract organic links ( links created by other people).  The more time that passes, the more chance to attract those links, which will bring more visitors by themselves but will also cause Google to think more highly of the page, which puts you higher in SERP (Search Engine Results Position), which may cause more people to see it, which may cause more organic links..
      
      Among my top 25 earners are pages as old as 2001; they have organic links all over them like buds on a spider plant.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

   Thanks guys.  So a brief flutter with page one and then oblivion it is then.  I don't think I can do the linking thing.

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You don't think people will link to you??
      
      You are wrong.

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      wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Pcunix is right, Mark - the links he mentions are not ones you place, but links that others place - organic links.  If someone likes your hub they may place a link to it on their facebook, specialty forum or anywhere else.  This way you gain links with no effort on your part, and they are generally much more valuable. 
      
      But it does take time.  The percentage of people that will give backlinks is very low - they must find and read your hub, like it, have a place to post the link and probably need a reason to post it (maybe someone else asks a question and the link they post is the answer).  All these things must come together in one reader to get the link, so it's rare.

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         Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks to both of you.  I was thinking of those adverts that offer 1,000 links for $9.99, not read them, but Adsense plasters them all over my website.
         
         The organic linking sounds like a wonderful thing - but I'm not sure that my Three Best Ways to Buy a Rectal Thermometer will ever achieve that.

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            Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Actually, humor has excellent potential for going viral.

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               Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks friend. I must stop wasting my best stuff in the forums.  In fact I must stop hanging out in the forums.  I got a 100 forum posts 'award' today (what is it with you Americans?) , which tells me I have been rather too 'busy'.

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                  Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  But without the forums, i might never have noticed you..

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                     Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Well yes, of course there is the publicity angle. But I am a forum junkie, I love the general messing about side of them - and then I look back on a few hours of forum stuff and think I could have written an article in that time.

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                        Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Sure.  I often take a thought that I began here and expand it to a hub. Why not?

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                        Denise Handlonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Mark, you're not alone.  If you checkout Sandpit you'll see a basic half dozen of us usuals there.  Why?  Mindless stuff.  I love the forums b/c I'm social that way and like some of the game challenges and the conversation threads.  However, I too had to reign it in awhile ago...all forum no hubs.      But, now I've found a balance.  You will too.   

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         Stories Inc.posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         is there a way to see those backlinks or know exactly when you're being linked to?

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            Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Google Analytics, Google Webmaster tools, and many other tools - none of which will reliably show everything, but you can get a pretty good sample of the important ones anyway.

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            Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            For your hubs try yahoo site explorer. Just type in the hub url and click "inlinks", then select "except from this site". Links can take a good while to show up though, if they show up at all.

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               wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I'm not sure I trust site explorer.  For instance, I have one hub that I KNOW has been linked to several times (I visited some of the sites) but SE doesn't show anything but HP links.
               
               I also have a recent hub (3 weeks old) that shows 832 inbound HP links, which I find incredible.  How could that be possible?  I may provide 100 of them through rss feeds and other interlinking, but 832???

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                  Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  
                  
                  Site explorer is not perfect, but I haven't found any other tool that is better (open to suggestions if anyone knows of one!)
                  
                  Regarding the large amount of internal links - that's pretty normal and is one of the reasons hubs do so well in google. (The way hubpages has set up the site's internal link structure is pretty genius!) If you look through these internal links you'll see a lot of them come from related hubs and the tag pages.

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   Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

   You've had some great advice from the man with the colourful hair - indeed I wish I had paid more attention to him about 150 hubs ago.
   
   However, it seems to me that everyone has missed the cruz of your question - it is 'ageing' or 'aging'?
   
   Well since I can't spell for toffees, I'd say it is 'maturing'.

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Having read a lot of British humor and other literature at an early age, I'll spell certain words eIther way - which can confuse people into thinking I am a British idiot rather than the American idiot I actually am.  I am sure the Brits are relieved to learn that - guilt by association is eliminated.
      
      Nobody should pay any attention to me. All the real experts here have certainly warned you of that, have they not? 
      
      Anyway, Mark, I am sure you will do well. You have a brain and will use it when necessary.

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   CASE1WORKERposted 13 years ago

   echo what everyone else says- i am just starting to get much increased traffic from a hub written in april, so it really is wait for it all to mature- sometimes they take off for no reason- I had one go loopy this week and then I traced it back and found that a school in italy must have set it to be read for homework- but now the homework has been handed in its all back to normal!

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      Stories Inc.posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      For homework? How did you do that? Good job.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

   I can at least answer the ageing or aging question.  It's that American v. English er english thing again.  So as I type it, it is correct but as soon as you read it you think this fool can't spell.
   And I second anything and everything you say about PCUnix - what a nice, helpful, funny, interesting guy.  With a great hat too.

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   Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

   Hey Pcunix - I saw all the fireworks in the forum a few weeks ago/ There's not much point having a brain in my head if I am going to just copy one side of an argument rather than listen to both sides then make up my own mind. I appreciate that you bring a different view point to the forums and am glad you share your opions so freely with us.
   
   And now I know you like British humour, I like you even more

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Having a brain is fine. It is using it that invariably causes trouble.

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