My hub about a new film has been unpublished

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   Bard of Elyposted 12 years ago

   I am really annoyed about this! My hub about a new film which the director Raymond Deane was pleased with and has  put as a backlink from his press page has just been unpublished! The reason: Duplicate content!
   
   I can only assume this is due to the quotes about the film I had copied from the official site about the film. I thought it was OK to publish quotes! Just as I get a bit of success here and notice taken of my work by a professional in the film industry - the director contacted me via HubPages to begin with - I have this happen!
   
   I have chopped out a lot of the text from the quotes and introduced them differently and submitted it again!

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Most likely it is indeed the quotes that are making the problem.  By definition quotes are duplicated material; that quote is published elsewhere on the web and thus is a duplicate in your hub.
      
      Quotes can still be used in a hub, but the original material provided by you must far outweigh the quotes in volume.  A hub that is 1/2 duplicate (quotes in this case) and 1/2 original will almost certainly judged to be duplicated. 
      
      There does not seem to be a specific percentage given by HP staff that would be acceptable; that makes sense as we would only see hundreds of hubs that try to skirt the very edge of acceptability.  Rather, HP is looking for hubs that, while they may use quotes or other duplicate material in limited quantities, is basically original, unique content that is new to the internet.

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   2uesdayposted 12 years ago

   Contact the team ASAP, it is in their interests too to help you sort this out as quickly as possible. Good luck with this, I expect you have emailed them already.

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      Bard of Elyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have amended it and resubmitted!

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   Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

   This isn't meant to be at all sarcastic and is, instead, intended in the spirit of empathetic frustration with how things usually seem to go in life:
   
   Isn't it just the case that just about every time some positive little thing happens in this life (like the recognition you got from Deane), there's always some little kick in the head that results from it?    (Does every good thing always have to bring the kick in the head???) 

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      Bard of Elyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      For me, yes!

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   habeeposted 12 years ago

   I recently had a hub about life quotes and happiness unpublished for the same reason. I added more of my own ideas to it and resubmitted it, and it was published.

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   Aficionadaposted 12 years ago

   I have had this question about Hubs made up of quotes for the same reason.  It seems that any Hub made up of quotes would have that same problem; but when I checked (out of curiosity) I found one by an HP staff member that had no commentary at all - just the quotes.  I'm assuming the distinction is that they had not appeared elsewhere on the internet yet?  But what happens after others find them and start copying them?
   
   Sorry, Bard, I know this is a tangent.  I hope your situation is resolved very soon. It's awful that this has come so quickly on the heels of the recognition, when interest in that Hub should be strongest

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      Bard of Elyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well,there were only 3 quotes I used, thinking it would be a good idea to back up the popularity of the film trailer with some of what people of note had already said about it. The only place I could get this info was off a site about the movie! I would have thought HubPages would have been very glad of getting some notice taken by someone in the film industry, and if anything I would have been thanked, but I was wrong!

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         Aficionadaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Three quotes? - that sounds out of kilter... unless they were fairly long quotes.  However, I would assume that the total number of words quoted (in relation to the total number of words in the Hub) would be more important than the exact number of quotes.
         
         I don't really think the duplicate content filter is set up to consider what the content is or how valuable it is to the site or to the internet.  It just sees duplicate content of any kind and is triggered.  Even so, though, no matter how much the quotes might seem to be valuable to HubPages, I know that the staff (after reviewing what has triggered the filter) wants to be even-handed and fair in applying the rules across the entire site. 
         
         As frustrating and irritating as it may be to revise what you have written, it would still probably work best to paraphrase most of the quoted material and actually quote only a very small bit.
         
         That is, unless the filter got triggered for only a very tiny amount of quoted material, in which case your communicating with the staff is even more crucial.

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   Maddie Ruudposted 12 years ago

   Your edits fixed the issue, Bard.  It's been republished.

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      Bard of Elyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you, Maddie!

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