The American idea of Buddhism

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  1. mischeviousme profile image60
    mischeviousmeposted 12 years ago

    The common mistake made when an outsider views Buddhism, is that a Buddhist must be devoid of emotion. This is not true. Buddhism is about acceptance. Acceptance of pain, acceptance of sorrow, acceptance anger, acceptance of wisdom. A Buddhist is human and is realy only on a path to enlightenment and it is a moment to moment thing. A true Buddhist, must forget that they have ever reached any understanding of enlightenment and move along. True enlightenment is accepting that there is no such thing as enlightenment, only stages of awareness.

    True enlightenment is only metaphore for acceptance and not knowing. A wise Buddhist will still get angry, they will still feel pain and they will still suffer. Buddhism is about not fearing these aspects of life and being in the moment of it. The aspects of life that will rarely change, must be accepted as they are, for everyone is Buddha. Everyone is aware, there is no pedestal. It is about humility and mastering the one true self that is "I am". It is about accepting that the one is all, the one is everything.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image76
      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I got talking to my Daughter about Taoism , she replied ,,,,wait. wait a minute you are going way too deep for me Daddy

      1. mischeviousme profile image60
        mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Tell her it's about the flow of nature and one must move with that nature, not against it. That is the Tao.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image76
          Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I did , it was all the other details that was too much. My Daughter is smarter than me at her age, it just a few people have the focus and attention span to adventure into these many spiritual or wisdom unknowns.

          1. recommend1 profile image60
            recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You are absolutely right - and nobody commenting in these threads these days seems to understand these things.

          2. mischeviousme profile image60
            mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Study all things and and study as best you can with true acceptance, then you will be able to explain it without hesitation. She may not understand, but you did the best you can.

        2. profile image51
          paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I think almost every truthful religion says to follow nature which is a creation of the Creator God.

    2. Good Guy profile image82
      Good Guyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "A wise Buddhist will still get angry, they will still feel pain and they will still suffer. "

      If he is wise, he will not get angry.  However if he realized his mistake of getting angry, then he is wise to that extent.  When I get angry, I am giving in to foolishness in that moment of unmindfulness.  This happened to me throughout my life.  As age gets into me, I can now admit how foolish I was when I got angry.  I am just that wise to this extent.

      1. mischeviousme profile image60
        mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Buddhism is not about religion, it is about not clinging. I can get angry, but if I cling to the feeling, I cannot move forward.

      2. profile image51
        paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        I appreciate your post.

    3. profile image51
      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Please quote from Buddha for the above expression.

    4. profile image51
      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What is "one" in the above exression?

    5. couturepopcafe profile image59
      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "True enlightenment is only metaphore for acceptance and not knowing".

      Don't think it's a metaphor for anything, it just is what it is unto itself. Acceptance may be part of the path to enlightenment but they're not one and the same. Not knowing is it's own thing, also.

      Patanjali believed that once we reach full enlightenment, there is no association with awareness at all and we become pure consciousness.

  2. Cara.R profile image65
    Cara.Rposted 12 years ago

    A Buddhist Monk from Tibet told me most important thing for me to remember was to ease the suffering of others.

    1. profile image51
      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Every truthful religion says to help others.

  3. Cara.R profile image65
    Cara.Rposted 12 years ago

    So the "outsiders" ideas on Buddhism are the Americans?

    How do you know what Americans think?  Your point of view would have made a better impacted if didn't refer to another group of people that you have never met.  Singling out a large group of people as if you knew them all but you don't. 
    In a statistical way,I can not say were you live; that all people are an 'outsider' on any topic.
    I think it distracts from the point you are trying to make.

    1. mischeviousme profile image60
      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Even though America has adopted Buddhism, there still lingers ideas as to what it truly is. The Americans that don't know what Buddhism is, still refer to it as a religion. It's not... That was the idea of the thread.

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
        Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        P.S

        I am not American and I have always thought if it has to be put under any title it would be Religion. No biggy, or does it offend a Buddhist perhaps?

  4. Cara.R profile image65
    Cara.Rposted 12 years ago

    We can all believe what we want. Some people believe it is a religion and some a philosophy or both. And it is not just Americans

    1. couturepopcafe profile image59
      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You nailed it, Cara. Religion is a philosphy, a way of life and philosophy, if truly held, is held religiously or it is not truly held. They are one in the same, IMO. Many think there must be some sort of figure worship to make a philosophy a religion. It's all semantics.

    2. mischeviousme profile image60
      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm American and I was raised all sorts of ways. I had the idea that Buddhism was about escaping suffering and being eternaly happy. Now that I've been a Buddhist for a while, I have had the realization that it truly isn't. It's about being a gentleperson and gentle person. I learned that it was about self saccrifice and being one with that, that I see all around me, not just the people I want to be part of or the memories I want to be part of, but part of everything. To put it lightly, the oranism that is the universe.

  5. Eaglekiwi profile image75
    Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago

    Labels wink

    Sometimes irritating sometimes helpful all the same.

    And if you have ever put salt in your coffee ,instead of sugar you'll know what I mean lol

    1. couturepopcafe profile image59
      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I laughed when I read this and laughed harder when I really thought about it.

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
        Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        wink

 
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