The A B C's of Confronting A Suspect: A Practical Guide
- Deborah Sextonposted 9 years ago
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You have commented:
" We have to also accept that IF they could have, that they wouldn't now be in the "wrong" for still owning/occupying the land. Right? Or when they did it to the ones before them in their own dwelling places. It can't be right sometimes, and wrong other times, depending ... "
Your statement proves that you either refuse to see the difference or are simply unable to. Possessing only what one needs to survive and go about their business, is far different than seeking to control large tracts of land as a means of power, control, and subjugation through dispossession. What you express is a Eurocentric notion that the Indigenous were just as greedy and immoral as the European Invaders. This is more true today than it was in 1492, simply because the Indigenous have been influenced and corrupted with over 500 years of Colonialism. You express an apologist idea in order to mitigate the evil of materialism that was imported to this continent from Europe. The European stole the land, divided the land, and then put a price on the land; creating a system that automatically, and by default, dispossess anyone who cannot afford the price of admission. Such a perversion of nature had never existed here before. Prior to Columbus, it wasn't necessary for this tribe , or that tribe to steal the land being occupied and used by another.
This made no sense at all. There was no need to go to all the trouble of fighting a war over a plot of land, when there was another plot of land just as fertile and appealing upstream, or down stream. There was enough to go around, and although there were instances of aggression among certain tribes. Such events were more the exception than the rule. As I have said before, the evil concept of buying and selling Real Estate is the root of much of the misery that we see today here in the United States. There is still enough land available that each American family could have a wonderful home and a place to dwell. I am not speaking of warehousing human beings in a ghetto, or of stacking them atop one another in housing projects. Every man, and woman, and child in the United States could have a beautiful home, with a beautiful yard, and even a beautiful view, but this does not exist because once every man is truly treated equally in this way, then the rich man will no longer have a position, or place in this world. And so, if you are a member of the poor, or the working class, I have named your enemy, and this we share in common.
I am not helpless, and so I cannot speak for your current condition. All of the materials necessary to build a home have been provided by God. The land produces the food that you buy in a package or a can, and so no one but a lazy fool would starve in a free country, where everyman has the right to possess the means to survive without first paying a price of admission to the extortionists in Washington. We are all bound to die, and that is our price of admission, our mortality has earned us this right. Each man provides his own labor.
If you are a helpless man in a free society, then it would be wise to be nice to your neighbor, so that he may attend to your needs. Concerning computers and electrical conveniences. All of these things would continue to exist in a free society. Production and maintenance of technology is not dependent upon capitalism, or evil intentions. With alternative forms of energy like solar and wind, there would be no need to be dependent upon the monopoly of a power company. Concerning cars. In a free society, a machine that kills over 40,000 citizens annually in the U.S. alone, would not be welcome. The freedom to kill another human being would not be an option in a free society; through any means, or commodity. However, the freedom to kill oneself through the use of dangerous drugs would be allowed. All of the natural remedies and plants placed upon this Earth by God would be accessible to any adult who chose to pursue this path for recreational, spiritual, or medicinal reasons.
In the words of the immortal Jim Reeves: "Welcome to my world. Won't you come on in?"
The "happy slave" mentality is such that the slave cannot see beyond his world of servitude, and the relative safety and comfort of a world in which to work and obey is his only responsibility. It is no wonder that men like George Bush and Dick Cheney can literally get away with murder in the light of day, beneath a clear blue sky. It is only a cultivated ignorance that has produced the fiction that the citizen cannot survive without "Big Brother"; that the factories would all shut down; that the infrastructure would fall apart; that the so-called free market would collapse; that hospitals, and emergency services would all shut down , and the nation , and the world, would be thrown into chaos.
For a child, or an 18 year old teenager to believe such absurd nonsense would not be too surprising, but for adults who have apparently squandered their money on higher education, only to be left clueless in the face of what should be obvious, is not only an outrage, but it is one of the greatest tragedies of all time; that the European has believed, for well over a thousand years, a great fiction; a lie that suggests mankind is hopelessly bound by a violent nature, and that society cannot exist without the tyranny of an oppressive state to temper, and control this violent nature.
Hear Ye! Hear Ye!
Now I will destroy a great perversion; a myth that came across the Atlantic in 1492, and that has now infected the entire world like the plague. Man is not violent by nature. On the contrary, men are docile beasts, and compliant by nature. Because of this, small groups of ruthless men, of relative superior intellect , have been able to subjugate the masses; bending and shaping them in accordance with their diabolical will. There can be no other explanation. If the nature of the average man was inherently violent, then an event like 9/11 would have never played out the way it did. A nation of violent men would not have allowed their ":Public Servants" who have been charged with looking out for the general welfare of the populace to deceive them, lead their sons and daughters to the slaughter, and then retire to their mansions, golf courses and yachts. In 2012 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Desmond Tutu , called for Tony Blair and George Bush to face prosecution at the International Criminal Court for their role in the 2003 U.S.led invasion of Iraq, but nothing has come of it, and most likely never will. Why did the "violent men" not rise up and drag Blair and Bush before the war crimes tribunal? Because such violent men do not exist in large numbers.
This morning, I have laughed out loud. Who but I could ever wake up on this day and proclaim, that with only a few exceptions, men are not naturally given to violence, men are more likened to sheep, or a goat herd.. Now, this is a great mystery to many because one might think. How can this be? Were not the mobs of southern miscreants who lynched the freedmen violent men? Are not the gangs that freely roam the inner cities comprised of violent men, teenagers, and even young boys and girls? Are not the soldiers who stand upon the killing fields violent men? The answer to all of these questions is a resounding: No!
Let us first look at the average soldier: The average soldier fights because of fear. It is not his wish to kill, as he does not enjoy the sight, the sound, or the smell of death and carnage. His fear of dismemberment and death are only surpassed by his fear of authority. Should he defy the authority that sent him to the battlefield, he might lose his home, his livelihood, and his reputation. He may even be imprisoned. But a violent man is not given to such fear. A violent man does not allow another man, or state "authority" to lead him into a slaughterhouse unless he himself chooses to go. A violent man does not fear the consequences, as he stands ready to deliver consequences of his own. Terms such as : duty, honor, patriotism etc., are effectively used to offset the otherwise unflattering appearance of blind obedience, and fear of authority.
Concerning street gangs: The violence that is played out on the streets of every inner city in America is more a reaction to poverty, and social circumstance, than a manifestation of an inherently violent nature. This can be easily proven when we compare the violence in the ghetto with the relative calm of the more affluent suburbs. If men were inherently violent, then the level of violent crime would not greatly fluctuate due to geographical, economic, or social conditions.
Concerning mob violence: People who participate in mob violence, whether it be a group of angry citizens, or a gang of rogue cops, are not necessarily inherently violent. When human emotions and certain prevailing attitudes are combined with certain events, in the context of a group, these events can trigger a psychopathic response within the group. Such a psychopathic response is more akin to a reflex, or convulsion introduced by a toxic substance, than an indication of an inherently evil nature.
In other words, the transition to a free society will not cause men to run wild in the streets; raping and pillaging, and murdering one another, as men are not inherently violent by nature. Nor will a free society lead us technologically back into the stone ages. The goat herd will still remain in the free society. But instead of being ruled and herded this way and that by tyrants, the herd will be gently, and lovingly guided by the Good Shepherd's.N O
! I heartily and severely disagree. Who wouldn't? We are not goats. We are individuals with individual wills. The individual is everything in America and in the World, though only in America and perhaps a few other democratic nations (that are not social democracies) is the individual given due and proper regard.
One must know something of true human nature in attempting to design a society. If one could bring about a society without any regard whatsoever to the glory and power of each individual and his God-given self-guided WILL, it would be a drastic disservice to mankind.
You claim: "...men are docile beasts, and compliant by nature." History and observation of those around us shows this statement is not true in the least. We are, each one of us, powerful survivors with strong wills that we either tame and master or do not, according to inner dictates.
We are a peaceful nation and are in the habit of giving our public servants, (who we elected, after all,) the benefit of the doubt. Once we know for sure what is going on, the non-violent sleeping giant will wake up and take appropriate wisdom-guided action. No need for violence against one's own democratic republic which has served them pretty darn well. Many problems have been tackled. Many problems can still be solved. I would say this is the true nature of America: We are a nation of excellent problem solvers. The problems will be solved in due time.
A revolution, however, may be in order sooner rather than later. Especially if the vote no longer counts. Please give the American people more credit than you do. Words count... what we say counts. Technology is bringing people into like mind and has given us much power. We can use it wisely for great positive benefits. But, we must be on the same page. Your page needs to ripped out fast.
Thanks but no thanks to absolute and utter ignorance of human nature.
Thanks, however, for your wonderful imagination and teaching us what NOT to base a society on.
Hint: Utopia= that which can never be.
This is good news. Also according to Reuters:
"Cleveland's police force has been under a U.S. Department of Justice investigation, which found in a report released on Dec. 4 that the department systematically engages in excessive use of force."
"Rice was shot less than two seconds after the police car pulled up beside him in the park, police have said. "
"This week, Tamir’s mother, Samaria Rice has spoken out at a press conference, saying that not only was her 12-year-old son shot by officer Timothy Loehmann, but her 14-year-old daughter was immediately detained, handcuffed and thrown in the back of a police car."
"At the press conference on Monday, Samaria Rice said that when she arrived at the scene of the shooting, she found her 14-year-old daughter handcuffed in the back of a police car. The girl was apparently handcuffed because she “refused to calm down” at the sight of her little brother just getting killed in front of her."
Hopefully, trigger happy Timothy Loehmann, the cop who murdered Tamir Rice in cold blood, will get some quality time behind bars ,and perhaps develop some meaningful relationships with lonely inmates. After all of the publicity in Ferguson Missouri over the murder of unarmed teenager Michael Brown, one would think that Loehmann would have proceeded with more caution. But this tragedy only further illustrates that due to the unpredictable, and dangerous nature of law enforcement, the current practice of hiring police officers with an IQ under 125 will forever remain a liability.
Historically many preachers and politicians have claimed that the United States was founded on Christian principles. But one of the most fundamental, and important Christian principle's "Thou Shall Not Kill", has been perverted to accommodate the nature of evil men. According to scripture, the torture and crucifixion of Jesus was necessary in order to save the soul of mankind. Jesus, who had previously cursed a fig tree which subsequently withered and died, clearly had the power to smite his tormentors and save himself. But he allowed himself to be tormented, to be mocked, and hung upon a cross. It should be clear that the ritual of crucifixion was a horrible way to die. And this is the powerful message of his story: Jesus suffered and died , even for those who despised him and reveled in his misery and destruction.
But men have made excuses for murder, and so have created definitions to distinguish between the different "types of murder", when in reality there is only one kind of murder: Murder is Murder. There is nothing under the sun that mitigates murder in the eyes of God. Not even self-preservation. You have commented: "And if not a man who makes the distinction, who? You? " To answer your question: Yes, I am qualified to make judgements, distinctions, author legislation, and enforce the law. Perhaps you are so offended by my candor because you feel that someone of my station would not take the time to post on Hubpages. But you must realize that great Prophets,Philosophers,Executives of Fortune 500 Companies, Politicians, Supreme Court Justices, Sheiks, and even Presidents read and contribute to Hubpages.Replaying the old myth may keep you occupied, but has nothing to do with the topic here. Imaginative stories contribute nothing.
May I quote you?
"Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human, and generally this premeditated state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter)."
Now it's just "Murder is Murder", or whatever definition suits your specific and current purpose. And while you may consider yourself qualified, the truth is that you are no more qualified than I am and I do not accept that you and you alone may decide what is murder. That you bring forth mythological entities to "reinforce" your position does nothing to support your position.
No, I'm not offended and neither do I feel that you are above me. No one that produces the drivel that you do, or constantly finds the need to compliment themselves, is above me.
Call it what you may. As men of conscience have stood against the tyranny of the past with unpopular concepts and ideas, I too shall persevere and give support to those who understand that love of self,and grandiosity, are seldom displayed publicly, but are often cloaked behind false modesty, hypocritical pandering, and sentiments such as "We Are The World". Are you also angry with Michael Jordan because he can jump higher and run faster than you? Do you hate the woman in the picture because she is prettier than you? My self-confidence is more troubling to you than the murder of innocent men , women, and children. I find this quite remarkable, and quite revealing.
wB, we wouldn't have many going nor available for the law enforcement profession if the IQ requirement were 125 and up. I do think that an average intelligence combined with the ability to use ones head for something other than a hat rack may do nicely. I also think that personality assessment/temperament evaluation testing as a prerequisite to becoming a police officer, weeding the 'Dirty Harry' types, would prove helpful.
We could do with less of a 'Quick Draw McGraw' attitude to law enforcement.
To recap:
I say that although the officer in the Brown shooting was found acting within the bounds of duties, the fact that he obviously fled from the scene without calling ambulances or offering medical attention after the fellow was down was poor judgment and irresponsible. That would be enough for me to terminate the officer's employment right then and there. Add to that, leaving a body lying in the street for five hours, things that most of us would not allow for animal carcasses, showed a lack of humanity and respect that certainly would not warm the community toward the police department.
As for the Rice boy, more of us agreed that again poor judgment created a tragedy from situation that simply could have been more deftly handled. Why drive up on the boy, forcing this lethal confrontation?
These a just a few of many similar tragedies going on around the nation. If I were the mayor of a larger American city, I would task the police department about their policy and procedures to see if I could preclude the likelihood of these unnecessary shootings under my watch.
Otherwise, I have no reason to be confident that what happened in Cleveland could not happen in Portland or Denver under similar circumstances. Getting the right cops with the right training would make the difference. So, instead of allowing all this to get swept under the rug with the passage of time a proactive attitude needs to be taken, today.
A very thoughtful poster earlier on said that a police officer needs three outstanding traits; courage, intelligence and compassion. If any one of the three is lacking you are in the wrong business
- Deborah Sextonposted 9 years ago0
Absolutely! There is a certain cowardice, not to mention stupidity, involved in pulling up on a kid and gunning him down in less than 2 seconds. The apologists on this thread apparently identify with such men. It is also a fact that it's easier to become a St. Louis police officer than a barber. Read here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nikolas-k … 40178.html
It is your misinterpretation of what I said that has now delivered us to a brand new fiction. You have found a clever way to call me a liar, but regardless of how you and others have attempted to portray my character, I am not offended in the least.
One day, long ago, I was walking down a country road and a large dog came barking loudly and running toward me. Having nowhere to run, I fell on my back and started to bark like a dog while flailing my arms and kicking my feet wildly about. Of course, the dog stopped and ran the other way. And so, because of your previous comments, I am certain that you suppose the moral of the story is obvious. But please, there is more.
I was not concerned so much about the dog, as it may seem, since I had been bitten before.Through my action, I was talking to God as a human being, instead of speaking meaningless words to an immortal entity, which is what the human / ape does. Why would I offer up such self-serving prayers to God, using beautiful words with reverent meaning, when such behavior must certainly be offensive. It is God alone who has made the heart that is beating in my chest. It is only the one almighty God who knows my true intention. Instead of always looking at the words, perhaps you would understand more by also looking at the heart of a man.
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