Ghostwritten & outsourced hubs
84- aquaseaCreative
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I'm still new & getting my head around the Adsense thing.. but something I noticed is an increasing prevalence of job listings on sites like Elance for bulk writing of hubs.
People are here for commercial as well as creative reasons, I understand that, but in the context of such a great creative & supportive environment it just seems wrong to think that people are eaning kudos for hubs they didn't write.
Possibly just me being overly tetchy, but I'm putting it out there.
95- Dale Mazurek
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Well there are probably a few schools of thoughts on that and you will definately get a lot of opinions.
Even the marketing side of me doubts I would ever outsource Hubs. Of course I am trying to make money but HubPages has become very personal for me.
I enjoy the people I have met and a few of the battles I have been in.
I have no problem with out sourcing, in fact I spend a few hundred dollars a month doing it now but when it comes to HubPages that just won't happen.
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- aquaseaCreative
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Yeah, it's a strange one. The Commercial / creative blend of hubpages is fairly unique. People often have a lot of themselves invested in the work they do here, more so than write for hire type jobs.
I also wonder if a ghostwritten hub would be as successful? And how much of it is a numbers game as opposed to quality? - 84
- aquaseaCreative
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Actually, not so much interest in this - which would seem to indicate that the outsourced hubs thing is generally accepted.
Fair enough. Why would anyone ghost write a hub? They might just as well publish themselves.
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- aquaseaCreative
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The write for hire people who haven't discovered Hubpages will do it. There are jobs listed on Elance right now with plenty of bidders.
It's guaranteed income, whereas to own / manage a swag of hubpages takes time & generates a return over a longer period. 
94- Misha
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More than a half of my hubs are ghost written. Does it make me a worse community member? I doubt it
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- Misha
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Will Apse wrote:
Why would anyone ghost write a hub? They might just as well publish themselves.
Immediate guaranteed pay.
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- aquaseaCreative
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Misha wrote:
More than a half of my hubs are ghost written. Does it make me a worse community member? I doubt it
No, I don't think so either
But I can't deny that I like the concept of direct feedback and that sense of community that comes from reading the work of others and having your work read by others. It puts a different complexion to know that many of the authors aren't actually the author.. i.e. the feedback is going to the wrong person.
Having said that, I haven't yet posted any hubs, so should maybe shut up, lol. Misha wrote:
More than a half of my hubs are ghost written. Does it make me a worse community member? I doubt it
I'm curious to know why you don't write them yourself, since we are only talking about a few hubs. I could understand if you were generating hundreds of sure fire keyword opportunities with big revenue potentials but 8 Hubs...
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- Dale Mazurek
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Misha wrote:
More than a half of my hubs are ghost written. Does it make me a worse community member? I doubt it
Absolutely not, does this make you a worse community member. I cant even say that in the future I wouldnt outsource Hubs for the business side of me. For that aspect it does make a lot of sense.
Outsourcing articles costs me hundreds a month but I greatly mnake up for it with more time and more income.
As long as everything is quality and I'm sure Misha, you check everything before it goes live. - 94
- Misha
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Will Apse wrote:
Misha wrote:
More than a half of my hubs are ghost written. Does it make me a worse community member? I doubt it
I'm curious to know why you don't write them yourself, since we are only talking about a few hubs. I could understand if you were generating hundreds of sure fire keyword opportunities with big revenue potentials but 8 Hubs...
Well, probably because I am not a writer and do not pretend to be one - so I am not really looking for a feedback. Then, English is not my native language, and text written by a native speaker using my ideas will always be higher quality then my own writing - and i do value quality.
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- Misha
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Dale Mazurek wrote:
As long as everything is quality and I'm sure Misha, you check everything before it goes live.
Actually not Dale, I just make sure I hire the people I can trust
Misha wrote:
Well, probably because I am not a writer and do not pretend to be one - so I am not really looking for a feedback. Then, English is not my native language, and text written by a native speaker using my ideas will always be higher quality then my own writing - and i do value quality.
A reply in flawless English, I note. Perhaps an unnecessary anxiety is driving the outsourcing?
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- Misha
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aquaseaCreative wrote:
Misha wrote:
More than a half of my hubs are ghost written. Does it make me a worse community member? I doubt it
No, I don't think so either
But I can't deny that I like the concept of direct feedack and that sense of community that comes from reading the work of others and having your work read by others. It puts a different complexion to know that many of the authors aren't actually the author.. i.e. the feedback is going to the wrong person.
Having said that, I haven't yet posted any hubs, so should maybe shut up, lol.Hey, have fun, write your hubs yourself, by no means I implied you should not do this. I just said that I don't see a problem with either approach.
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- Dale Mazurek
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Misha wrote:
Dale Mazurek wrote:
As long as everything is quality and I'm sure Misha, you check everything before it goes live.
Actually not Dale, I just make sure I hire the people I can trust
That makes total sense because you trust they are doing quality work for you and there is nothing wrong with that.
Kudos - 94
- Misha
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Will Apse wrote:
Misha wrote:
Well, probably because I am not a writer and do not pretend to be one - so I am not really looking for a feedback. Then, English is not my native language, and text written by a native speaker using my ideas will always be higher quality then my own writing - and i do value quality.
A reply in flawless English, I note. Perhaps an unnecessary anxiety is driving the outsourcing?
Why thank you Will.
But I have to say that a couple of years ago my English was a lot worse, Hubpages shaped it quite a bit
As for unnecessary outsourcing - again, I am not a writer. I do enjoy writing a piece every now and then, but I don't have that urge of letting the World know about my thoughts on a daily basis. And since most of my hubs are for business purposes - for backlinks, experiments, and some pocket change - I often outsource the text. 
99- pgrundy
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I think there are two groups of people here and some people have a foot in both groups. One group is just here to write and have fun and if they make a little money, all the better. The other group is here to make a little (or a lot) of money, and if they have fun all the better. Some people manage to do both.
I don't see anything wrong with outsourcing hubs. I like to write my own though.- 94
- Misha
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And we like to read them Pam
91- Connie Smith
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I guess I am naive. I never imagined that people would have 'ghostwritten' hubs. However, I would be happy to ghostwrite hubs for others for cash....
