Who Outsources Their Hubs?

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   N. Ramiusposted 14 years ago

   I have a friend who tends to outsource a lot of his writing. I prefer writing my hubs myself. I'm just curious how many here actually outsource most of their hub writing? The last thread I found on this was 11 months old so I'm curious if things have changed.
   
   I figure poetry and fiction writers are writing their own hubs and those with picture hubs are as well. But for financially motivated hubbers, do you tend to write most of your hubs yourself or outsource it? What made you make your decision?

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      CASE1WORKERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      would anyone be paid to write what i write!!!
      i would demand a refund!
      However perhaps I might be interested to write for some one else but can you imagine being bored to death pointing out the finer points of something that you have no interest in?

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      LeonJaneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You mean like offshore outsourcing like telemarketing? Isn't there enough of that going on here at hubpages?

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   IzzyMposted 14 years ago

   I'm amazed to learn that anyone actually outsources their hubs! Can't they write themselves?

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      rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      there are all kinds of ads on Craig's list and various ad listings, this is what they want whether it be HP or another article writing site. someone with 800+ hubs that has only been here a year has probably outsourced, or someone who joins and within hours or days has 40+ hubs. no one can write that many hubs that fast, unless they're two paragraphs.
      
      I'm too fussy, I wouldn't want someone else writing content with my name on it.

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   dutch84posted 14 years ago

   I, too, am amazed that there are people out there doing this. Wow! You learn something new everyday...

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   torimariposted 14 years ago

   I....three, am amazed that this happens. Really? Never heard of anyone even doing that here. Sheesh.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 14 years ago

   I know it happens.  I think Misha may have outsourced some of his.  I know Julie Ann Amos writes Hubs for other people - so she's not outsourcing, but she is outsourced to, if you get me.

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      Denseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am not sure of  Misha's other accounts, but only taking nos of hubs into consideration, I thought he was underperforming.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I'd like to have his under-performance, then - do you know how much he's making?
         
         http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/43081#post996075

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            Denseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, I do. You can find me on that page congratulating him and yourself.

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, I do. All on my other accounts, and several hubs on my main account. I outsource only writing though, most of the hubs I build myself.

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         Chasukposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I'm new here, but I'm confused by this statement.
         
         You say that somelese else writes they hubs, yet you build them.
         
         Isn't that contradictory?

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            thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            No, it simply means that he hires people to write content, and then he places this in to hub modules, builds the adverts and so forth.

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         fresnaveeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I was really surprised that you outsourced writing Misha!
         
         But you probably also started out like every else writing their own hubs, right?

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   Polly Cposted 14 years ago

   I'm surprised to hear of this - personally I couldn't do it as the main satisfaction for me is creating the hub myself and then seeing the finished article.

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   SiddSinghposted 14 years ago

   Yes, some hubbers do outsource their writing. I recently bid for a project on a freelance writing site, only to find that I needed to write 800 word hubs!
   
   The payment was good too!

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   Denseposted 14 years ago

   If you find that  No of hubs/No of days* is too high, there is a high chance that the person is outsourcing his hubs.
   
   *assuming that 1 month = 30 days

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   Sufidreamerposted 14 years ago

   I have to add to what Marisa said - if a business wants to use Hubpages as part of an online marketing campaign, then they often hire a professional writer to create Hubs for them.
   
   That makes perfect sense

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      BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Any suggestions about who to hire, Sufi?

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Mark Knowles

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            BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            

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               Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               
               
               Not me - I only create Hot Indian Aunty hubs for other people
               
               I also write Misha's forum posts for him.

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                  Aya Katzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Sufi, so you are the guy I should hire to do my forum posting! You've done an excellent job on Misha's behalf.

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                  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  You are doing a terrific job, you can expect an increase
                  
                  What!?!? You let this out?!?!
                  
                  You are fired!!!!!

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    Originposted 14 years ago

    If I were to pay for writers, I would only do it for my own domain(s). For Hubpages, I like to write it myself.
    
    

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    travelespressoposted 14 years ago

    I enjoy the process of writing and so mine are self penned! 
    
    I can understand outsourcing for commercial purposes - but here at Hubpages?  That sounds strange.

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       Originposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I suppose.. if...
       
       I knew that paying someone $5 for 800-1200 words of content, I would potentially make that back within a couple of months and then profit from then on. Perhaps they are viewing it that way.

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       Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Not really - Hubpages has a very high Pagerank and Google likes it. If you want to drive high quality traffic to your site, then it is an extremely useful place.
       
       Many people are good at running businesses but can't write web content, so they pay somebody else to do it.
       
       It makes perfect business sense, in the same way that many people hire a professional website designer or graphic designer to design their site and business logos

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          travelespressoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Sure Surfidreamer, you are right.  I understand the commercial nature of the transaction and ranking etc.  I guess where I think it sounds strange is when a business uses Hubpages pretending its a "personal" profile.  It begins to get confusing.
          
          I'm here to write, have people enjoy my writing and photography (I hope!)and along the process of doing what I like to do, make some money.  That's my goal!

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             Ohmaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I certainly enjoy your hubs Joy!

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             Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Which Hubbers were you thinking of?  If the Hubber profile  talks about the person as business owner, rather than about him/her as a person, and if he/she doesn't claim to do the writing, I don't think that's pretending anything.

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             Originposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             That reminds me of that... one profile from Myspace, what's his name.. Dave or something? You know, the guy "behind Myspace" that doesn't really exist, at least not the way that people believe he does.

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             Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Sure, and I think that this is the reason why HP is a great venue - it is one of the few sites where 'marketing oriented' and 'personally oriented' writers can mix, generally very well.
             
             I believe that we need both - I love reading Hubs that are written for sheer joy, without money in mind, and they enrich the site. We also need the commercial aspect to pay the bills and keep the site high in the rankings. A good win/win situation.
             
             @Fiction Teller - Fantastic post.
             
             That hit straight to the heart of the matter - the problem with writing is that the influx of people prepared to bid $5 an article made everybody think that this was the going rate for all writers. The market is correcting, and businesses are beginning to understand that if they want to hire a professional, they have to pay professional rates.
             
             You won't find a web designer, accountant, or SEO consultant for $5 an hour - writers are no different!

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    climberjamesposted 14 years ago

    Not familiar with this? Is it really worth it?
    
    I enjoy writing my own

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    waynetposted 14 years ago

    I never outsource, because I've got the time to invest into writing content, I suppose there would come a time though in the future where I would consider it, but until then I'll just write some reviews and stuff I like!

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    Dale Mazurekposted 14 years ago

    I would never outsource a hub.  Personally we all have a style and I like my style.
    
    In the past I have out sourced articles.  3 times to be exact and each time I got crap in return.  May as well have been PLR because I had to rewrite them anyways.
    
    Since then all my writing is my own
    
    Cheers
    
    Dale

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    puter_drposted 14 years ago

    There is a hubber who will remain anonymous who has a paid staff of 3(when we last spoke) who write hubs, lenses, tweets and other such work for him.
    He hires only native english speaking locals to do this writing in house, as he is not a native english speaker.
    
    I myself signed up for a writing service long ago for a chunk of money, only to find out my "custom" written articles were gibberish and would not pass copyscape.
    
    I used to write for others long ago(before hubpages) and it seems like I have a permanent case of writer's block.

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    Fiction Tellerposted 14 years ago

    I don't outsource, but that's because I like writing articles.
    
    It's a legit practice.  Like Internet marketing, it has a slightly seedy reputation.  I think that's because it's a new way of earning money - actually, a new take on an old twist - and people don't entirely trust it.
    
    The "old twist" part is write-for-hire.  That's been done for a long time.  Professional writers write for hire - it's how we eat when writing for ourselves doesn't bring home the bacon.
    
    The "new take" part - the part that can be hard to stomach - is that HubPages is a social as well as business venue, in which writers are readers too, and readers are friends or customers, depending on how you look at it, resulting in a weird comingling of etiquette rules.  Nobody knows for sure how to act and everyone hopes others are going by their rules.
    
    If a visitor on HubPages considers the site a social venue as much as a writing one, then finding out that a particular writer isn't the creator of the words he's reading can feel awkward.
    
    At its worst, it can feel like wandering into what looks like a Mom & Pop store, only to find that Mom just got her degree in PR specializing in "Country-Style Selling" and spends megabucks hiring out two shill "kids" in overalls to run around the store, while "Pop" is always strangely absent.
    
    At its best, though, it's an honest, straightforward thing - as honest as fellow customer service staff confiding together during a break that the smile they put on at the counter is an act.  The difference between the "front" of the store and the "back" of the store is clear to everyone.
    
    It's also easier to deal with outsourcing if the hubber is obviously a professional and marketer, and doesn't pretend to be interested in the social component, so folks don't get mixed up confusingly.
    
    It's also got a seedy reputation because writers don't yet know how valuable they are, and charge too little.  And people who pay writers either tend to overpay those who aren't qualified or underpay those who are, so everyone ends up feeling exploited in the transaction.  Again, it's all because it's so new - nobody knows what writers SHOULD be paid for revenue share articles.  The value hasn't been established yet.  AdSense itself is less than 10 years old...

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       Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I agree, and that confusion is often a source of friction on HP.  People have to remember that HP isn't a social networking site!
       
       We're all here to write, either for ourselves or for someone else.  That's what the site is designed for!  HubPages provides mechanisms we can use to socialize with each other, and some people use them more, and some less.  It only gets weird when some people turn the purpose of the site on its head, and start demanding everyone behaves as though HubPages is a social network first and a place to earn money writing, second.

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          EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          And occasionally you get people who come on the forums with no hubs to their name and say "OK, so I've just joined Hub Pages.  Now what do I do?"
          
          To join something without even knowing why you've joined... WTF????

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    bojanglesk8posted 14 years ago

    I write all my Hubs myself.

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    habeeposted 14 years ago

    I write all my hubs myself, in addition to writing for others.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Well, at least I write my forum posts myself. All of them, I swear

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       

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       Beth100posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Really?!? 

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       Aya Katzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Misha, that's a funny idea: hiring someone else to get argumentative with others on the religion or politics forums or to flirt outrageously with sockpuppets. Maybe I should hire somebody to do that! I like writing my own hubs but am not so good at socializing.

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          Denseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Good idea, this!

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          LOL, I don't think you have enough money for this

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             Denseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I can offer peanuts and bring in more monkeys!

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    net_crazyposted 14 years ago

    Im really amazed to hear that
    Never thought of it;)

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    rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

    in this respect, I totally understand and agree. why not? especially if the HP account is more business related.

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    Williamjordanposted 14 years ago

    my articles might not win any adwards but I wrote them myself

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    wychicposted 14 years ago

    I would never outsource, I don't trust anyone else to speak my mind for me! That said, I have been outsourced to several times...my clients often have me posting to a few different affiliate sites and really like my familiarity with Hubpages. I say anyone that pays $5-$10 for a hub gets what they pay for; my clients are willing to pay decent market rates in order to get something that's informative, well-written (at least they seem to think so), and that doesn't trigger the overly-promotional filters while still offering some exposure for their sites.
    
    While a lot of people who have a large number of hubs in a small amount of time may be outsourcing, I certainly don't think it's an automatic, they could be cross-posting. In fact, if I were keeping up on my cross-posting I would have about 700 hubs here, but it takes time and I'm easily distracted. Yes, it incurs a hubscore penalty to straight-out cross-post, but I don't care all that much since I'd completely drop the site if it didn't allow it at all. That said, 800 in a year for a full-timer doesn't seem outrageous to me, that's less than three hubs a day...most days I write 5-10 articles, and if someone didn't have many clients a large portion of those would go into their personal affiliate accounts.

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    thisisoliposted 14 years ago

    I haven't outsourced any hubs, although I occasionally outsource writing on some of my own websites.

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    andromidaposted 14 years ago

    though I write my hubs myself,but I have successfully outsourced the typing job.

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    Cagsilposted 14 years ago

    Hey Chasuk,
    
    Someone writes the hub, the text content and then gives it to the writer and the writer makes the hub.

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    Purple Perlposted 14 years ago

    I love writing my hubs ! That's why I am here on HP !

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    Susana Sposted 14 years ago

    If I had a chunk of cash I'd outsource my hubs. Then I would have more time to get on with other stuff, like promotion.

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