Who Outsources Their Hubs?

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  1. N. Ramius profile image73
    N. Ramiusposted 13 years ago

    I have a friend who tends to outsource a lot of his writing. I prefer writing my hubs myself. I'm just curious how many here actually outsource most of their hub writing? The last thread I found on this was 11 months old so I'm curious if things have changed.

    I figure poetry and fiction writers are writing their own hubs and those with picture hubs are as well. But for financially motivated hubbers, do you tend to write most of your hubs yourself or outsource it? What made you make your decision?

    1. CASE1WORKER profile image64
      CASE1WORKERposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      would anyone be paid to write what i write!!!
      i would demand a refund!
      However perhaps I might be interested to write for some one else but can you imagine being bored to death pointing out the finer points of something that you have no interest in?

    2. LeonJane profile image74
      LeonJaneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You mean like offshore outsourcing like telemarketing? Isn't there enough of that going on here at hubpages? smile

  2. IzzyM profile image88
    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    I'm amazed to learn that anyone actually outsources their hubs! Can't they write themselves?

    1. rebekahELLE profile image86
      rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      there are all kinds of ads on Craig's list and various ad listings, this is what they want whether it be HP or another article writing site. someone with 800+ hubs that has only been here a year has probably outsourced, or someone who joins and within hours or days has 40+ hubs. no one can write that many hubs that fast, unless they're two paragraphs.

      I'm too fussy, I wouldn't want someone else writing content with my name on it.

  3. dutch84 profile image61
    dutch84posted 13 years ago

    I, too, am amazed that there are people out there doing this. Wow! You learn something new everyday...

  4. torimari profile image67
    torimariposted 13 years ago

    I....three, am amazed that this happens. Really? Never heard of anyone even doing that here. Sheesh.

  5. Marisa Wright profile image88
    Marisa Wrightposted 13 years ago

    I know it happens.  I think Misha may have outsourced some of his.  I know Julie Ann Amos writes Hubs for other people - so she's not outsourcing, but she is outsourced to, if you get me.

    1. Dense profile image59
      Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am not sure of  Misha's other accounts, but only taking nos of hubs into consideration, I thought he was underperforming. big_smile

      1. Marisa Wright profile image88
        Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I'd like to have his under-performance, then - do you know how much he's making?


        1. Dense profile image59
          Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, I do. You can find me on that page congratulating him and yourself. wink

    2. Misha profile image64
      Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, I do. All on my other accounts, and several hubs on my main account. I outsource only writing though, most of the hubs I build myself. smile

      1. profile image0
        Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I'm new here, but I'm confused by this statement.

        You say that somelese else writes they hubs, yet you build them.

        Isn't that contradictory?

        1. thisisoli profile image71
          thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          No, it simply means that he hires people to write content, and then he places this in to hub modules, builds the adverts and so forth.

      2. fresnavee profile image59
        fresnaveeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I was really surprised that you outsourced writing Misha!

        But you probably also started out like every else writing their own hubs, right?

  6. Polly C profile image91
    Polly Cposted 13 years ago

    I'm surprised to hear of this - personally I couldn't do it as the main satisfaction for me is creating the hub myself and then seeing the finished article.

  7. SiddSingh profile image60
    SiddSinghposted 13 years ago

    Yes, some hubbers do outsource their writing. I recently bid for a project on a freelance writing site, only to find that I needed to write 800 word hubs!

    The payment was good too!

  8. Dense profile image59
    Denseposted 13 years ago

    If you find that  No of hubs/No of days* is too high, there is a high chance that the person is outsourcing his hubs.

    *assuming that 1 month = 30 days

  9. Sufidreamer profile image79
    Sufidreamerposted 13 years ago

    I have to add to what Marisa said - if a business wants to use Hubpages as part of an online marketing campaign, then they often hire a professional writer to create Hubs for them.

    That makes perfect sense smile

    1. BDazzler profile image79
      BDazzlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Any suggestions about who to hire, Sufi? wink

      1. Misha profile image64
        Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Mark Knowles wink

        1. BDazzler profile image79
          BDazzlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this


          1. Sufidreamer profile image79
            Sufidreamerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            lol lol

            Not me - I only create Hot Indian Aunty hubs for other people smile

            I also write Misha's forum posts for him.

            1. Aya Katz profile image81
              Aya Katzposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Sufi, so you are the guy I should hire to do my forum posting! You've done an excellent job on Misha's behalf.

            2. Misha profile image64
              Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              You are doing a terrific job, you can expect an increase smile

              What!?!? yikes You let this out?!?! yikes yikes yikes

              You are fired!!!!! mad

  10. Origin profile image59
    Originposted 13 years ago

    If I were to pay for writers, I would only do it for my own domain(s). For Hubpages, I like to write it myself.


  11. travelespresso profile image68
    travelespressoposted 13 years ago

    I enjoy the process of writing and so mine are self penned! 

    I can understand outsourcing for commercial purposes - but here at Hubpages?  That sounds strange.

    1. Origin profile image59
      Originposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I suppose.. if...

      I knew that paying someone $5 for 800-1200 words of content, I would potentially make that back within a couple of months and then profit from then on. Perhaps they are viewing it that way.

    2. Sufidreamer profile image79
      Sufidreamerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Not really - Hubpages has a very high Pagerank and Google likes it. If you want to drive high quality traffic to your site, then it is an extremely useful place.

      Many people are good at running businesses but can't write web content, so they pay somebody else to do it.

      It makes perfect business sense, in the same way that many people hire a professional website designer or graphic designer to design their site and business logos smile

      1. travelespresso profile image68
        travelespressoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Sure Surfidreamer, you are right.  I understand the commercial nature of the transaction and ranking etc.  I guess where I think it sounds strange is when a business uses Hubpages pretending its a "personal" profile.  It begins to get confusing.

        I'm here to write, have people enjoy my writing and photography (I hope!)and along the process of doing what I like to do, make some money.  That's my goal!

        1. Ohma profile image60
          Ohmaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I certainly enjoy your hubs Joy!

        2. Marisa Wright profile image88
          Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Which Hubbers were you thinking of?  If the Hubber profile  talks about the person as business owner, rather than about him/her as a person, and if he/she doesn't claim to do the writing, I don't think that's pretending anything.

        3. Origin profile image59
          Originposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          That reminds me of that... one profile from Myspace, what's his name.. Dave or something? You know, the guy "behind Myspace" that doesn't really exist, at least not the way that people believe he does.

        4. Sufidreamer profile image79
          Sufidreamerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Sure, and I think that this is the reason why HP is a great venue - it is one of the few sites where 'marketing oriented' and 'personally oriented' writers can mix, generally very well.

          I believe that we need both - I love reading Hubs that are written for sheer joy, without money in mind, and they enrich the site. We also need the commercial aspect to pay the bills and keep the site high in the rankings. A good win/win situation.

          @Fiction Teller - Fantastic post. smile

          That hit straight to the heart of the matter - the problem with writing is that the influx of people prepared to bid $5 an article made everybody think that this was the going rate for all writers. The market is correcting, and businesses are beginning to understand that if they want to hire a professional, they have to pay professional rates.

          You won't find a web designer, accountant, or SEO consultant for $5 an hour - writers are no different!

  12. climberjames profile image56
    climberjamesposted 13 years ago

    Not familiar with this? Is it really worth it?

    I enjoy writing my own smile

  13. waynet profile image68
    waynetposted 13 years ago

    I never outsource, because I've got the time to invest into writing content, I suppose there would come a time though in the future where I would consider it, but until then I'll just write some reviews and stuff I like!

  14. Dale Mazurek profile image62
    Dale Mazurekposted 13 years ago

    I would never outsource a hub.  Personally we all have a style and I like my style.

    In the past I have out sourced articles.  3 times to be exact and each time I got crap in return.  May as well have been PLR because I had to rewrite them anyways.

    Since then all my writing is my own



  15. puter_dr profile image91
    puter_drposted 13 years ago

    There is a hubber who will remain anonymous who has a paid staff of 3(when we last spoke) who write hubs, lenses, tweets and other such work for him.
    He hires only native english speaking locals to do this writing in house, as he is not a native english speaker.

    I myself signed up for a writing service long ago for a chunk of money, only to find out my "custom" written articles were gibberish and would not pass copyscape.

    I used to write for others long ago(before hubpages) and it seems like I have a permanent case of writer's block.

  16. Fiction Teller profile image60
    Fiction Tellerposted 13 years ago

    I don't outsource, but that's because I like writing articles.

    It's a legit practice.  Like Internet marketing, it has a slightly seedy reputation.  I think that's because it's a new way of earning money - actually, a new take on an old twist - and people don't entirely trust it.

    The "old twist" part is write-for-hire.  That's been done for a long time.  Professional writers write for hire - it's how we eat when writing for ourselves doesn't bring home the bacon.

    The "new take" part - the part that can be hard to stomach - is that HubPages is a social as well as business venue, in which writers are readers too, and readers are friends or customers, depending on how you look at it, resulting in a weird comingling of etiquette rules.  Nobody knows for sure how to act and everyone hopes others are going by their rules.

    If a visitor on HubPages considers the site a social venue as much as a writing one, then finding out that a particular writer isn't the creator of the words he's reading can feel awkward.

    At its worst, it can feel like wandering into what looks like a Mom & Pop store, only to find that Mom just got her degree in PR specializing in "Country-Style Selling" and spends megabucks hiring out two shill "kids" in overalls to run around the store, while "Pop" is always strangely absent.

    At its best, though, it's an honest, straightforward thing - as honest as fellow customer service staff confiding together during a break that the smile they put on at the counter is an act.  The difference between the "front" of the store and the "back" of the store is clear to everyone.

    It's also easier to deal with outsourcing if the hubber is obviously a professional and marketer, and doesn't pretend to be interested in the social component, so folks don't get mixed up confusingly.

    It's also got a seedy reputation because writers don't yet know how valuable they are, and charge too little.  And people who pay writers either tend to overpay those who aren't qualified or underpay those who are, so everyone ends up feeling exploited in the transaction.  Again, it's all because it's so new - nobody knows what writers SHOULD be paid for revenue share articles.  The value hasn't been established yet.  AdSense itself is less than 10 years old...

    1. Marisa Wright profile image88
      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, and that confusion is often a source of friction on HP.  People have to remember that HP isn't a social networking site!

      We're all here to write, either for ourselves or for someone else.  That's what the site is designed for!  HubPages provides mechanisms we can use to socialize with each other, and some people use them more, and some less.  It only gets weird when some people turn the purpose of the site on its head, and start demanding everyone behaves as though HubPages is a social network first and a place to earn money writing, second.

      1. profile image0
        EmpressFelicityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        And occasionally you get people who come on the forums with no hubs to their name and say "OK, so I've just joined Hub Pages.  Now what do I do?"

        To join something without even knowing why you've joined... WTF????

  17. bojanglesk8 profile image58
    bojanglesk8posted 13 years ago

    I write all my Hubs myself.

  18. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 13 years ago

    I write all my hubs myself, in addition to writing for others.

  19. Misha profile image64
    Mishaposted 13 years ago

    Well, at least I write my forum posts myself. All of them, I swear lol

    1. Cagsil profile image72
      Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol lol lol

    2. Beth100 profile image70
      Beth100posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      lol  Really?!?  lol

    3. Aya Katz profile image81
      Aya Katzposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Misha, that's a funny idea: hiring someone else to get argumentative with others on the religion or politics forums or to flirt outrageously with sockpuppets. Maybe I should hire somebody to do that! I like writing my own hubs but am not so good at socializing.

      1. Dense profile image59
        Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Good idea, this! smile

      2. Misha profile image64
        Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        LOL, I don't think you have enough money for this smile

        1. Dense profile image59
          Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I can offer peanuts and bring in more monkeys! wink

  20. net_crazy profile image60
    net_crazyposted 13 years ago

    Im really amazed to hear that smile
    Never thought of it;)

  21. rebekahELLE profile image86
    rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

    in this respect, I totally understand and agree. why not? especially if the HP account is more business related.

  22. Williamjordan profile image58
    Williamjordanposted 13 years ago

    my articles might not win any adwards but I wrote them myself

  23. wychic profile image82
    wychicposted 13 years ago

    I would never outsource, I don't trust anyone else to speak my mind for me! That said, I have been outsourced to several times...my clients often have me posting to a few different affiliate sites and really like my familiarity with Hubpages. I say anyone that pays $5-$10 for a hub gets what they pay for; my clients are willing to pay decent market rates in order to get something that's informative, well-written (at least they seem to think so), and that doesn't trigger the overly-promotional filters while still offering some exposure for their sites.

    While a lot of people who have a large number of hubs in a small amount of time may be outsourcing, I certainly don't think it's an automatic, they could be cross-posting. In fact, if I were keeping up on my cross-posting I would have about 700 hubs here, but it takes time and I'm easily distracted. Yes, it incurs a hubscore penalty to straight-out cross-post, but I don't care all that much since I'd completely drop the site if it didn't allow it at all. That said, 800 in a year for a full-timer doesn't seem outrageous to me, that's less than three hubs a day...most days I write 5-10 articles, and if someone didn't have many clients a large portion of those would go into their personal affiliate accounts.

  24. thisisoli profile image71
    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    I haven't outsourced any hubs, although I occasionally outsource writing on some of my own websites.

  25. andromida profile image58
    andromidaposted 13 years ago

    though I write my hubs myself,but I have successfully outsourced the typing job.

  26. Cagsil profile image72
    Cagsilposted 13 years ago

    Hey Chasuk,

    Someone writes the hub, the text content and then gives it to the writer and the writer makes the hub. wink

  27. Purple Perl profile image50
    Purple Perlposted 13 years ago

    I love writing my hubs ! That's why I am here on HP !smile

  28. Susana S profile image93
    Susana Sposted 13 years ago

    If I had a chunk of cash I'd outsource my hubs. Then I would have more time to get on with other stuff, like promotion. smile


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