How do you discover and manage karma debt in your life?
16- Elena Erykah
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Since recently I became aware of the repeating situtions in my life - looking back, I got surprised by the fact that I've never changed my reaction and that reaction never brought any solution, just conflicts and sudden break up with the close one. These situations repeated many many time in the past, but it is now that I see that it is always the exact same situation. What I know is that these situations hurt me and the inner me does not feel well at all, but somehow I followed my independent and self-sufficient me!!
When I became aware of the repeating situations I wanted to know the urge that keeps pushing me in conflics. The research I did confirmed many thigs and led me to many cuestions - Can we discover our karma debts by our own? How can we became more aware of our acts? Do these situations form part of the lessons we must learn? and how do we manage all this?
Thanx, I'll be glad if you share some of your experience with me.
EErykah
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Life throws these situations into your life until you ultimately deal with them only to be replaced by yet another. Life is a classroom and you are the student sometimes, and sometimes you are the teacher.
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If for you life means you're paying some karma debt, you'll never find your way out.
Go and see a shrink !
And relax !
!Life is here for you to enjoy.
If not what's the purpose ?
To suffer ?!Once I was baffled by a very painful experience.I did not why.
Nobody really knows why these difficult situations happen in our lives.But yes just like you mentioned certain situations keep repeating until we learn the lesson and move on.
So one day I kept pondering until the realization came that this is the way it was to happen.It was decided by me before I came into this world.I had decided to learn this lesson in this life time.
So instead of feeling like a victim of a bad situation I realized I was in charge of my learning process.The pain lessened as I became more aware of the direction my life is required to take as part of the learning in this life time.
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monaz wrote:
Once I was baffled by a very painful experience.I did not why.
Nobody really knows why these difficult situations happen in our lives.But yes just like you mentioned certain situations keep repeating until we learn the lesson and move on.
So one day I kept pondering until the realization came that this is the way it was to happen.It was decided by me before I came into this world.I had decided to learn this lesson in this life time.
So instead of feeling like a victim of a bad situation I realized I was in charge of my learning process.The pain lessened as I became more aware of the direction my life is required to take as part of the learning in this life time.Well said, I have recently learned the lesson of playing the victim role and decided that I do not want to be that person anymore and am taking my life back, it is hard, but the destination, which includes a good night sleep, is well worth it.
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I just do the right thing and putting myself into others shoes always. What goes around comes around, dont want to hurt people in the process of my everyday living.
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good for you~~ once you recognize the patterns in your life, you can see your life from a different perspective, many people go through a lifetime and never learn this.
now you can move forward and be more aware, and no reason to be hard on yourself!! happiness is a choice, not a reward or something withheld from a person.
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- Elena Erykah
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rebekahELLE wrote:
good for you~~ once you recognize the patterns in your life, you can see your life from a different perspective, many people go through a lifetime and never learn this.
now you can move forward and be more aware, and no reason to be hard on yourself!! happiness is a choice, not a reward or something withheld from a person.Thanx:))Since I realize all this I am releaved and willing to work with me, but also I felt pain for the people I might have hurt;(( By nature I'mvery emotive... and yet those things happend so I could learn something, but I hurt someone:((
Take out a payment plan - do something nice every day.
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When we find ourselves keeping on making the same kind of bad choices we should look for a cause. It can sometimes be found in a past event or series of events that forces change in our mind set. Kinda like "Well if it is like that; I'm goina be like this" We forget that we told our self "THAT" but "THAT" is the way it will be untill we change "THAT"
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- Elena Erykah
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Jerami wrote:
When we find ourselves keeping on making the same kind of bad choices we should look for a cause. It can sometimes be found in a past event or series of events that forces change in our mind set. Kinda like "Well if it is like that; I'm goina be like this" We forget that we told our self "THAT" but "THAT" is the way it will be untill we change "THAT"
As far as I can understand you're suggesting me a more psychological approach?
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- Elena Erykah
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kephrira wrote:
Take out a payment plan - do something nice every day.
This is a very usefull thing:) You know... once a friend told me that mothers in Nepal ask children, before they go to sleep, what was the good thing they did today:))) And if there isn't any answer they send the child to do some good thing:))
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Elena Erykah wrote:
Jerami wrote:
When we find ourselves keeping on making the same kind of bad choices we should look for a cause. It can sometimes be found in a past event or series of events that forces change in our mind set. Kinda like "Well if it is like that; I'm goina be like this" We forget that we told our self "THAT" but "THAT" is the way it will be untill we change "THAT"
As far as I can understand you're suggesting me a more psychological approach?
Maybe a little but not so much. I am no therapist but I would suggest that for instance, what ever habitual thing that you would like to quit doing. When was the first memory you have of being in that circumstance. What was the motivation that compelled you to get into that situation. I think that you will see a clue. If not; think back just a little bit further to see what motivated the motivation that lead to entering into that situation. At least, something like that is what I was told.
I am very impressed, there are many good replies here. This world is a school. A school where we all learn at our own pace. We do come here with certain spiritual goals we wish to accomplish in this lifetime. We accomplish these goals by under going tests; once we pass these tests, we move on to the next lesson we wish to master. When you keep going through the same problem, it means that you have not figured out the answer yet. If you are having a long and complicated time figuring out a solution, ask God to help you find your mistake. The solution will often come in the dream state, or through sudden revelation. Don't get down on yourself, when you are an old soul some of these lessons could take lifetimes to pass. The sooner you are aware that you are being tested, the sooner you will find the solution.
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muley84 wrote:
I am very impressed, there are many good replies here. This world is a school. A school where we all learn at our own pace. We do come here with certain spiritual goals we wish to accomplish in this lifetime. We accomplish these goals by under going tests; once we pass these tests, we move on to the next lesson we wish to master. When you keep going through the same problem, it means that you have not figured out the answer yet. If you are having a long and complicated time figuring out a solution, ask God to help you find your mistake. The solution will often come in the dream state, or through sudden revelation. Don't get down on yourself, when you are an old soul some of these lessons could take lifetimes to pass. The sooner you are aware that you are being tested, the sooner you will find the solution.
This sounds like a page out of reincarnation beliefs.
Which would make sense from an over view such as that.
As far as repeated behavior in one lifetime the only to eliminate the cycle in this lifetime would be to go back and evaluate. What is the catalyst that set the ball in motion.
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Elena Erykah wrote:
Since recently I became aware of the repeating situtions in my life - looking back, I got surprised by the fact that I've never changed my reaction and that reaction never brought any solution, just conflicts and sudden break up with the close one. These situations repeated many many time in the past, but it is now that I see that it is always the exact same situation. What I know is that these situations hurt me and the inner me does not feel well at all, but somehow I followed my independent and self-sufficient me!!
When I became aware of the repeating situations I wanted to know the urge that keeps pushing me in conflics. The research I did confirmed many thigs and led me to many cuestions - Can we discover our karma debts by our own? How can we became more aware of our acts? Do these situations form part of the lessons we must learn? and how do we manage all this?
Thanx, I'll be glad if you share some of your experience with me.
EErykahIn my late twenties, I found myself more or less in a similar situation to yours. A "short list" of the results of that discovery came to be:
1. I became (temporarily) obsessed with discovering/remembering at least some of my past lives--particularly those that had caused me to be in difficult situations in the Here and Now.
2. After plowing through a lot of different material (including but not limited to the writings of Edgar Cayce), I figured out that I was on this vicious cycle of "forced reincarnation"...and I decided I was going to find out how to escape that "hamster wheel" in THIS lifetime. Friends with whom I'd been studying called that ego, and I had to go find new friends.
3. Eventually (after about 2 years of this) I found (or was led) to the spiritual path I'd been seeking, one that could help me find my own answers. (If you need to know what that was, please drop me an email--I've no wish to proselytize and won't list it in the forums.)
4. Eventually I did indeed discover/remember quite a number of past lives. Those are not to be talked about with others (spiritual law) but went a long, long way toward helping me to understand why I was (and am) in various situations in the Here and Now). Methods used to discover those lifetimes included consulting with (qualified) psychics (there are many charlatans out there)...dream state study...obsessive reading (I'm a lifetime bookworm)...sudden and unexpected putting-pieces-together insights...just about every angle you could imagine.
After some years (I'm not really sure exactly when it faded), the obsession to "know everything" left on its own. After 6 divorces and 2 bankruptcies, I've been in a solid relationship with wife #7 for thirteen years and we're still "hooked at the hip". (The longest anyone else lasted with me was 8 years.)
Doing it entirely on your own may be possible, but I suspect it's a lot easier with a hint here and there from a guide to point out the most direct route to the top of the mountain. In my case, I did in fact discover how to escape the Wheel...but after some years of continuing to study and practice the principles I'd learned, I no longer cared about that so much and began to focus on how I could help others find their own ways.
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I think part of what makes our life meaningful is the struggle in our lives. Things happen and I learned that I am not always in control and I can't always plan everything and there are some excruciatingly painful lessons that I needed to learn and will no doubt use for some future situation. Because of these things I am less fearful, I seem to have an increased faith, am more accepting of people and situations, and am appreciative of what I have. But then again I may have just gotten more foolish as time goes by!
I think those Nepali mothers were right to help focus the child on what good thing they did that day. It's very sweet.
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Flightkeeper wrote:
Because of these things I am less fearful, I seem to have an increased faith, am more accepting of people and situations, and am appreciative of what I have.
Appreciation is always a good thing, it opens up pathways for positive karma
. I have the belief that I've been reincarnated several times, finished several lessons yet is unable to grasp the one that I keep failing. I don't let this get me down though.
One thing that I know that can help is by joking about good/bad karma (in good nature of course) as much as possible. I noticed that this helps yourself become aware of what situations karma would appear in, and after being conscious to it being able to affect it.
I dread being in thought loops, so I always make the effort to catch myself. Like a poem from a book I read publicly in 5th grade; "It can be done!"
