Google Smartpricing and HubPages

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   Lissieposted 17 years ago

   If you don't know what google smartpricing is check out this http://makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.c … nse%20Tips article
   
   I am wondering whether I should drop ads from some of my hubs - the ones that have very poor CLR.   From what  Ican gather once you are smart priced on any domain it affects all your sites?  Although my income from Adsense is going up I am pretty sure I am smart priced as I see 5c clicks all the time

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      vietnameseposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      I checked out your link, but it was too much writing. I will have to check back some other times as I am lazy to read right now....hhihihi

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   Inspirepubposted 17 years ago

   Lissie,
   
   i read the whole thing.
   
   1. He's really focused on blogs with his comments, so they are not 100% transferable to other web pages.
   
   2. A low CTR won't cause you to be smart-priced. Poorly targeted traffic (which arrives via links that do NOT have relevant keywords, or links on social sites) causes smart-pricing. Google analyses where people come from, right down to the anchor text of the link they clicked to find your page. Poorly targeted traffic also CAUSES a low CTR, which is why the superstition has arisen that low CTR causes smart-pricing.
   
   3. A way to tell if you have been smart-priced would be to look at the ads on your pages and see if they are all themed to your content, or if they are scattered in topic. Smart-priced ads are more likely to be widely varied in topic.
   
   Basically, Google will smart-price you if your content doesn't have an identifiable theme, and if you get lots of untargeted traffic.
   
   We all know that social bookmarking traffic is untargeted and doesn't click as much as search engine traffic, so just focus on your SEO - in our case, this boils down to keywords in the text, headings, tags, page summary, and Hub title. If you get those right, your traffic will be targeted search engine traffic, and smart-pricing should not be an issue.
   
   Jenny

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      Lissieposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      I guess specifically to do with hubpages :
      1) if another hubber gets smartpriced affect me? Or does realise that same domain but different adsense id?
      2) if I not have well targeted ads after a the hub being up for a few days I should take the Adsense off that particular hub?

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      premsinghposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      My observation is also same. A low CTR is caused by untargeted traffic  from social, exchange or free traffic sites.
      
      Prem

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         Mark Knowlesposted 17 years agoin reply to this

         It is also caused by providing high quality, well written content that satisfies the search traffic's needs with a lot of high quality, relevant outgoing links.
         
         Far better to do as some do and offer teaser content if you are looking for a high CTR.
         
         Depends what you are looking for. If you want your work to be read and develop a reputation as a high quality writer, you will likely get a lower CTR.
         
         Not so sure about how the pricing works, but I do see a generally lower value click here than other places I write on similar topics. But the traffic comes easy so......

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   Inspirepubposted 17 years ago

   My read is that it is the Adsense ID that gets smart-priced, not the domain.
   
   1. The HubPages guys would take care of that
   
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   2. It would hurt Google if they did that, since they own blogger.com
   
   I don't know about taking ads off Hubs - for a start, you can't take them off commercial Hubs. And if your Adsense ID is on other sites that perform well, then the occasional less-focused page here and there shouldn't cause a problem.
   
   Paul may have more wisdom to add ...
   
   Jenny

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      Lissieposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      What u say makes sense - I'd love to here Paul's word on it! I am kinda feeling that some of my more out there hubs are a bit of a liability if I want to make some real Adsense money on other domains. It might be time for my partner to get an Adsense account :-)

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   terrygposted 17 years ago

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   Lissieposted 17 years ago

   IF I have it right Mark a low CLR doesnt necessarily get u smartpriced its just if your traffic is low quality and doesnt convert then you have problems - but as usual there is no actual documentation anywhere telling you this - it drives this right-brained person crazy!

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   honeyposted 17 years ago

   I agree with whatever Jenny said above..i think your adsense gets smartpriced when the conversions from your ad impression clicks are not worth enough to pay you what advertisers are wishing to pay for a full conversion.So, if the tendency of ad clicks from ur hubs is in a fashion where people just bounce out of the page after clicking the ad,then your adsense id can get smartpriced. I think reading this good article on smart pricing 'll help you know better Lissie. Click on the link to go to the article page
   
   Google Smart Pricing

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   Inspirepubposted 17 years ago

   This seems to be a good summary, honey, thanks for posting the link.
   
   The advice is aimed at bloggers, so you need to think carefully before applying it to Hubs.
   
   At HubPages we need to be careful about taking the ads off certain Hubs - make sure the Hubs can be called "non-commercial" before you remove the ads.
   
   Jenny

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      Lissieposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Exactly my problem Jenny - my experience is the same as Mark some of my "best" hubs which have a great hubscore and get lots of google traffic dont get many clicks - and apparently the ones that do click dont buy hence the smart pricing
      
      Also some of them are flagship hubs so I cant take adsense off those either (against the flagship agreement)
      
      That is a great link honey - the best summary I have seen to date! I hadn't realised smart pricing was reviewed weekly!
      
      In the future I am looking at doing some highly targeting adsense sites and I don't want to have the "hubpage" effect to affect these new sites -  I am seriously thinking getting my partner to apply for an adsense account as the easiest way around the "problem" .

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