ATTN Ferguson and Cleveland: A Lesson From Arizona Cops
Not that I am in love with Arizona, which is known for it's racist policies concerning Mexican American studies in public schools, as well as racial profiling. However, a gunman who killed one person and wounded 5 others in Mesa Arizona Wednesday morning was apprehended "alive" after being brought down with a Taser.
I am posting this because it sheds even more light on the murders of Michael Brown and Tamir Rice. The apologists have been out in force since these brutal and unprovoked murders. I have heard every lame excuse under the sun about why the cops had no choice but to use deadly force. Yet, let us compare the three suspects.
•Ryan Giroux,, the suspect in the Arizona case is white . He has already spent more than 6 years in prison for aggravated assault. He killed one person and wounded 5 others. He was taken alive.
• Michael Brown was black. He had no prison record. He was on his way to college. He didn't kill anybody. He didn't wound anybody. He didn't even have a weapon. He was murdered for disrespecting a cop who said he feared for his life.
• Tamir Rice was a 12 year old black child. He had no prison record. He hadn't killed or wounded anyone. He was murdered for playing with a toy gun in a park. The cops also say they feared for their safety.
Of course if the Arizona shooter had been black, or native, there is a good chance he would also be dead , but that is beside the point. The issue here is that this man had proven himself to be dangerous. He had proven his willingness to kill. Of course a cop would fear for his safety under such circumstances. Yet, in spite of the obvious danger, this man was taken alive! In this case the cops performed the job they were hired to do, which is to keep the peace; to apprehend and subdue suspects and deliver them to a court of law, rather than perform as judge, jury, and executioner.
This tells us that in parts of the United States, an unarmed black teenager, or a black child with no prison record, and who hasn't killed or injured anyone , is considered more dangerous than a convict who served over 6 years for aggravated assault and then killed one person and wounded five others. But of course, these young black people who were murdered were not considered dangerous at all. That is only the official excuse for such heinous crimes against humanity. The truth is very simple: They were black, and in the wrong place at the wrong time; they did not speak, or act the way a black person is supposed to, and in this country that has always been a good enough reason for a black person to be murdered by a representative of the government.
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Your post highlights several important points:
• When confronted, the Arizona suspect fled. He obviously did not respect "the position" of the authorities and was later subdued with a Taser. However, his lack of respect did not get him killed.
• You accurately stated: " In the heat of the moment is not a time to expect justice to be determined on the street." You are absolutely right. Even though the Arizona police were confident that the suspect had already killed one, and wounded 5 other people they did not allow their emotions to take control. Even though it is clear that they believed the suspect was a killer, they took the necessary steps to deliver him to justice relatively unharmed. At least he was not dead!
Finally you say: "What is the worst that could have happened to any of these people had they surrendered and or followed instructions from the police?"
First of all there is no law that justifies killing a citizen for simply disrespecting a law officer. Your comment indicates that you may be in favor of such a law. In the case of Tamir Rice, the video clearly shows that this child wasn't given time to react one way or another. Most reports indicate that 3 seconds elapsed between the time the cops arrived and the time he was murdered. In the case of Michael Brown, we have the testimony of a rogue cop as to the events th at led up to the shooting. Furthermore according to the Observer,"A federal investigation into the police killing of an unarmed, black 18-year-old in Ferguson, Missouri, lays bare what officials contend are racist, profit-driven law enforcement practices in the small St. Louis suburb." http://www.moultrieobserver.com/news/ju … a6ec3.html
But what is very apparent here is that one lone cop didn't try to play Rambo and run after the Arizona shooter. It was a coordinated effort. The situations in Ferguson and Cleveland could have been handled in a similar professional manner, especially since those suspects had not killed or wounded anyone, and there was less urgency.
When black people were lynched in the past, similar excuses were used to justify evil. One of the most popular was " They got a fair trial, and they were convicted by a jury in a court of law and sentenced by a judge!" Of course they got a fair trial : from a racist jury and a racist judge, after which many were tortured, burned alive, and hanged.
You find my talent for analogy to be "horrible" because I have used it to aptly illustrate the absurdity of your suggestion that poor parenting contributed to the Tamir Rice tragedy. In a racist country that has persecuted the African and the Indigenous for over 500 years; in a country that still celebrates the memory of tyrants like George Washington,Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, and Columbus, you dare suggest that the parent may have been responsible! If innocent people were not still being murdered I might now be laughing.
If you want to fix this problem, then a good place to start is by admitting the truth that the United States is one of the most racist countries in the world, and stop making excuses for evil. When the body is infected with a disease we cannot cure ourselves by seeking to appease and reason with that which has corrupted us. Instead, we must identify the corruption and then cut it out.
Thank God for Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson! Today it is fashionable to accuse those who stand against the evil of racism of "race hustling" and "race baiting". As far as black on black violence is concerned, a great majority of that violence is a symptom of poverty and institutionalized racism, which go hand in hand.
Furthermore, these men are civil rights activists. That's what they do. A brain surgeon may have the ability to be a heart surgeon, but he chooses to specialize in grey matter, instead of matters of the heart. Most people specialize in one particular field. Why is it that civil rights activists are supposed to be Supermen and solve every ill known to man when no one else can perform such a feat?
But what I find most fascinating is your comment about Arizona securing the borders. What does that have to do with a guy running around shooting people? And in case your comment was in reference to my opening remarks about M.A.S., most of the so-called Mexican American children attending schools in Arizona are U.S. citizens. Also, let it be known that "Mexican American","Latino", and "Hispanic" are racist terms commonly used as tools of genocide to help erase the Indigenous identity.
Consequently, being of predominantly native blood, even the so-called illegals from below the border have as much right to be here as anyone else. The wealth of America is stolen wealth in the first place. The colonialists did not invent, or earn this wealth. They were invaders who simply stole it.You know Everywhere you look these days, there’s Al Sharpton... it’s strange, even after you wake up screaming, he’s still there. It’s like one of those Blumhouse movies. If he’s not in some city calling for protests because a cop killed a thug who was resisting arrest, he’s in some other city calling for protests because another cop killed another thug who was also resisting arrest. He’s even been meeting with Barack Obama as if the president of the United States were just some hapless loser who can’t find anyone else to talk to.
Al Sharpton has dedicated his life to the improvement of the black man Al Sharpton.
He first flushed himself to fame in 1987, when a 15-year-old black girl named Tawana Brawley concocted a lie about being raped by a group of white men. Reverend Al Sharpton became one of Tawana’s so-called advisors. He falsely accused a young police officer of participating in the alleged rape, and after the already troubled officer committed suicide, Sharpton accused another man of murdering him to cover up the crime.
Sharpton and his cronies organized daily protests using viciously inflammatory language - even though one of Sharpton’s top aides says Sharpton suspected all along Tawana’s story was false. Finally a Grand Jury investigation exposed the girl’s hoax, leaving Sharpton looking almost exactly like a race baiting charlatan.
Unless you happened to be a leftist or a journalist or some other sort of gullible buffoon. In that case, Al Sharpton was now a “black leader.” And sure enough, wherever a tragedy could be misconstrued as a case of racism, black leader Al was there leading blacks to false conclusions and violence.
There was Crown Heights Brooklyn for instance. When a black child was accidentally killed by a car driven by a Hassidic Jew there in 1991, a small gang of local blacks responded by murdering an innocent Jewish man. But that wasn’t good enough for Al. His furious rhetoric helped stir days of anti-Jewish riots in what’s been called one of the worst anti-semitic incidents in American history.
And Al wasn’t done. In 1995, he helped incite a vicious name-calling boycott of a Jewish storeowner in Harlem — and inspire protests that only ended when one of the protestors shot four whites in the man’s store and set the place on fire, killing seven workers, most of them Hispanic.
More recently, Sharpton has accused three white LaCrosse players from Duke University of raping a black girl, which they didn’t; made out that Trayvon Martin was the victim of a racist murder, which he wasn’t; and suggested Michael Brown was a gentle innocent shot dead by an evil cop — wrong again — and he managed to do it all while owing the government 4.5 million dollars in taxes.
So thank God for Al Sharpton.
You bring up a good point Katherine. You commented, "A swat team was involved so it was less of a life threatening situation than just one or two cops dealing with an unknown potential criminal with a gun or defiant and aggressive behavior." Thank you for this, because with the help of your insight, I will destroy any possible argument justifying the murders of Michael Brown and Tamir Rice.
Fact: The situation in Arizona was tense, dangerous, and law enforcement did not have the luxury of time. More people could have died if the police did not act quickly to neutralize the gunman. In spite of this urgency, the authorities took the time to put a strategy in motion and deploy a swat team.
Fact: In the cases of Michael Brown and Tamir Rice, there was no such urgency. No one had been killed, nor had anyone been wounded or threatened. Surely their lives warranted the same considerations as the life of the killer in Arizona. Ferguson and Cleveland PD, having the luxury of time, and with no imminent threat in either situation, could have even more easily implemented a strategy and deployed officers, or a swat team, in a manner that would have insured the safety of all concerned. But apparently the lives of black children aren't worth the extra time and expense.
As far as your comment about the baggage cops must carry around: A man who goes to the grocery store and buys a steak for dinner doesn't sit crying and commiserating at dinner over the poor cow that he is now eating. If the man cared that much about cows he wouldn't be eating them in the first place! I assure you,any cop who purposely, and with malice, kills another human being does not have any trouble sleeping at night. They simply don't care.
Your statement reveals a lack of understanding. A government is constituted by a ruling body, whether elected or self-appointed. A law is not dependent upon a ruling body to function. For example, in a community where theft and murder is illegal, these crimes would not go unpunished in the absence of a ruling body. To further clarify, when a man has a bowel movement, does he really need a governing body to tell him which hand to use when cleaning up the mess?
No, I would not have the depth of fear that would lead me to take a human life; especially the life of a child. You do not understand the mentality of these individuals who commit murder. It is not fear that drives them, it is power, and a need to realize and watch the power of life and death in motion; to be in control. I have known men like this and I have seen them engage in their sadistic pleasures . For instance, many so-called "hunters", who are in reality nothing but cowards with high tech toys, revel in the killing of defenseless animals. They do not shoot the animals because they fear them. Are you afraid of Bambi? No, they are not afraid of Bambi, and many are not hungry or trying to feed their families either, nor are they so interested in "thinning out the herd" to keep a healthy balance in nature. They simply kill for pleasure.
We must understand that the Eurocentric educational system does not teach the children about death. As a result there is much confusion and unhappiness. Everyday, for many years I have thought about death, and every day I prepare myself to die. I accept that it will come, and although I am susceptible to pain and suffering as any man, I do not suffer the mental anguish of "waiting for the other shoe to drop", or in this case, "waiting for the bullet to hit the bone". I will welcome my death as an old friend, and I will not greatly mourn the passing of this life, for it is only a drop in the ocean. As a result, I do not walk through this world in fear. The men who kill these young children are soulless, sadistic, cowards, and when this lifetime ends for them, they will only turn to dust, as the Creator has no use for a fruit that has only spoiled and turned rotten.
The great irony here is that the evil men that many of you defend would not think twice about killing you either, if given the opportunity. Look at the pleasure on the simian's face as he poses with the beautiful creature whose life he has abruptly ended for his own demented pleasure. Such men do not possess the intelligence to understand that the living deer is more magnificent to behold. It is always cause for celebration when the miscreants accidentally shoot each other.
You assume so much but know very little about who you are directing your comments toward. I grew up on a very large farm in the midwest. I have seen first-hand on many occasions what happens to animals at the slaughterhouse. I have seen the look of fear in their eyes and heard them cry out as the throats of the animals before them were unceremoniously sliced; releasing the warm blood that gushed out like a fountain. I assure you, I never took pleasure in such horrific images, nor do I take any pride in the carnivorous aspect of humanity. Some of us have the ability, and the desire to transcend the human condition, while others appear happy to continue wallowing in their own excrement.
You have attempted here to change the focus by pointing out that humans are omnivores. But that fact has nothing to do with the point I am making. The point is that some people are sadistic and twisted, and that they derive a certain pleasure from torturing and killing other humans and animals. The fact that a man eats meat doesn't automatically qualify him as a sadist. Men of conscience who have hunted throughout the ages for the purpose of survival do not take great pleasure in killing. Their pleasure is in knowing that they and their families will not go hungry and perish. There is a big difference between this kind of hunting and that which many consider today to be a "sport".
When the cops in the state of Arizona can capture a known killer alive, we can understand that the cops in the state of Ohio could have captured a 12 year old boy playing with a toy gun alive also, if only they would have taken the time and made the effort to do so. Tamir Rice is dead because the cop that shot him wanted to kill him. I can no more explain why than I can explain why a grown man will travel to Africa, kill a baboon, have it stuffed, and then placed in his living room to show off to his guests. In fact, I know a lawyer who has a collection of African animals stuffed in his living room. But these are sick and demented individuals, and rather than make excuses for them, and the sick racist society that allows them to kill with impunity, we should focus on changing the status quo and getting these miscreants in uniform off the streets.
Every white racist who ever murdered a black person has either claimed self-defense, or claimed that the black person had already killed somebody, or was about to. It was also not uncommon in the south, and throughout the United States after the Civil War, for whites to commit crimes wearing makeup, or blackface, and then claim a black person did it. I'm sure these good citizens were at the head of the lynch mob. In other words, I don't believe the "official" story on Ferguson,and I am sure the cop provoked the incident. But rest assured, there is a place set aside for the good officer in hell, along with tens of millions of Americans who thought they could defile the image of God and get away with it. Furthermore, according to news organizations like the HuffingtonPost:
" ... A damning report released by the Justice Department on Wednesday heavily criticized the operations of the police department and municipal court in Ferguson, Missouri, where Michael Brown, an unarmed black teen, was shot and killed by a white police officer in August. DOJ’s civil rights investigation into the Ferguson criminal justice system found that authorities have routinely violated the rights of black citizens and have used tickets to generate revenue for the city. "
Concerning your question about whether or not I eat meat. Yes, I eat meat, and I find it to be a disgusting habit; more like an addiction. But the distinction here between me and the average "American Sportsman" is that I don't kill defenseless animals for pleasure or sport. Neither do I hang grotesque trophies of dead animals on the walls of my house, and brag about what a "good kill" it was. The fact that I am an omnivore doesn't make me feel any better about eating the flesh of a dead animal, and someday I hope to reach a higher ground. But as I have stated, the eating of meat doesn't automatically qualify someone as a sadist or a murderer. It seems that's the point you are trying to make; that if I eat meat then I am just as bad as the cop who killed a 12 year old kid! I fail to see the connection.
I am sorry, but I must disagree. It is you who must be pitied, for you have apparently resigned yourself to the false notion that a man can never rise above the level of a carnivorous animal. In this lifetime, or the next, I hope to be something more than a copulating, urinating, defecating, flesh eating, narcissistic animal. I am well aware of what an ecosystem is. The most obvious purpose of a vulture is to dispose of carrion, but I'm not interested in applying for that position either.
I am well aware that in this capitalist oppressive system many in the proletariat feel that they have a stake in the riches of America. They have been relentlessly indoctrinated and brainwashed with nationalist and patriotic propaganda that forever promises them a piece of the pie. However, the primary goal of the ruling elite is to simply keep the working class obedient. The primary function of a police force in such a society is to enforce the policies of the ruling class and insure their continued supremacy. Your suggestion is right in step with their agenda.
Ideally, the police are supposed to be the servant, not the master. It is the citizen that must come first. It is the citizen that the servant must satisfy, not the other way around. If the policeman must take chances and risk his life in order to give the citizen the benefit of the doubt, then so be it! Otherwise, let him work at Dunkin Donuts instead. I am tired of hearing these cowards talk about how they "feared for their safety" and had no choice but to kill an unarmed teenager or child.
Every time a fireman responds to an alarm, there is no guarantee that he will ever see his family again. Firemen risk their life everyday all across the United States. They don't stand outside a burning building and say to themselves, " Wow, I know there is a little girl trapped on the second floor but I might get hurt , or even killed if I try to save her!" I have never heard of such a thing, but only the opposite. A raging fire is no less lethal than a loaded gun, and death by fire is far more horrific and painful than a shot to the head. Apparently, there are a lot of people who have got the notion that policemen are better than firemen, and that their lives are more important. But I strongly disagree. Like I said in other words, if a cop feels the job is too dangerous then he or she should find another line of work.
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