What are anyones thoughts about the police in Ferguson and the murder of Michael

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   TonniWmsTempleposted 10 years ago

   What are anyones thoughts about the police in Ferguson and the murder of Michael Brown?

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   bethperryposted 10 years ago

   I can fully understand a community demanding just and unbiased investigations into the death of an unarmed young man, and if there is an undercurrent of racial hatred in any police dept., it needs to be called out and ended immediately by local and if needed, State officials. But seeking justice does not entitle anyone to loot. Not everyone angry over Michael Brown's death is looting, but far too many have, and for those who have, they are not only stealing from their neighborhood merchants, they are exploiting this young man's tragic end. The selfishness needs to stop and the looters, if they care at all about justice, need to encourage a full investigation into Brown's death be handled without the interference of mayhem in the streets.

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      TonniWmsTempleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I completely agree as a community if we don't come together and seek justice for our young who will, they look to us for safety, confirmation, and leadership so if we don't show them we care and are there for them this will continue to happen and the

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      ChristinSposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Your answer is completely correct and well reasoned.  I lived near the region for a long time and it baffles me the amount of people jumping on bandwagons on both sides without all the facts or information.

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   JThomp42posted 10 years ago

   Right now there are two sides to the story and then there is the truth. Should Michael Brown have performed a strong armed robbery right before he was apprehended? No. Should he have been shot for that? No. Should he have fought the police officer for his gun? NO. If he did not do this he would be alive today.

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      TonniWmsTempleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      JThomp42 I would have to disagree unless I'm not understanding what your saying, reason being after they reviewed the tapes he was not the right suspect as far as the robbery goes all African Americans DO NOT look the same, when it comes to the gun p

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      JThomp42posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I think we should all wait and see what comes of this before claiming this young man guilty or innocent. But.. depending on which media channel you follow will probably form your opinion.

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   jansharesposted 10 years ago

   I agree with bethperry 100%. It is shameful to exploit the death of Michael Brown in the name of "justice" and "outrage" over the way he died by choosing to destroy the business community by looting. Some would say that the looters in Ferguson (just like the ones in CA during the Rodney King incident) find a way in their minds to justify their actions because they are angry, feel disenfranchised, and are detached from the community. Whatever they try to tell themselves, the method of expression is still wrong and outrageous. Find a voice to stand up, air your grievances, and fight for justice that does not include criminal behavior.

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      ChristinSposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely! The people who are rioting are actually mostly not from Ferguson but coming in from surrounding areas to cause trouble which makes it more frustrating. What happened to MB was wrong, but the story gets lost in this madness.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      JT:  You believe in Bible? After flood, Babel!  We went in different geographical  directions but "WE ARE ONE!"

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      JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I can DEFINITELY agree with that Norine.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      JT:  From your writings, it sounds like as a teenager you were what you called Michael Brown - "A THUG!"  But, you were not faced with what MB was faced with - "TAUGHT" bigotry!  You're evidence that there's  hope for chg if given the opportunity!

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      JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Norine.... I do agree with that assessment. Yes, I was a thug. And so were my white, brown, black, and all friends at that time. But, we still had respect for the police. Were we scared of them? Yes. Scared of going to jail. So we avoided them.

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   IDONOposted 10 years ago

   In my mind these luters and vandals are not expressing anything except seeing an opportunity to get something for nothing. Most of them don't know this 18 year old and could care less if he lived or died because they do not value life in the first place. This isn't a race thing. It's a character thing. Back to question! I have no thoughts on this YET because it has not been determined to be a murder. If it is, they should punish the cop to the furthest extent of the law. If it's determined to be self defense, then I hope others learn from it and we give our blessings and prayers to the families involved. It's sad that a young member of society is lost, but we can't devastate the life of numerous people about something that has yet to be determined. I will hold my thoughts about the actual event until they've determined what really happened, if they ever do.

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   junksellerposted 10 years ago

   If I say what I think I'll get myself in trouble, but I will say this. There are obvious problems with that police department. It has a clear lack of diversity and residents have identified patterns of disproportionate harassment.
   
   Everything about the shooting seems wrong, but it is probably best to wait for the details to be released.
   
   The response by the police to legitimately angry citizens I think showed their true colors. And it becomes especially apparent in contrast to Ron Johnson who showed up later. The almost all-white Ferguson PD showed up in full riot gear and started shooting rubber bullets and tear gas. That is a group of people who don't much like their community and are afraid of it. Ron Johnson showed up as a man and was hugging people. Violence begets violence and was unnecessary.
   
   The stunning incompetence of the police goes well beyond that. Allowing the officer in question to simply leave town; not providing any details of the shooting or shooter; not questioning or detaining Brown's friend Dorian Johnson who was not only an alleged suspect in the same robbery, but a witness to the shooting; attacking, arresting, and harassing journalists; releasing the 'robbery' video as an obvious smear tactic; changing stories from one press conference to another; the curfew, etc.
   
   This is a big issue and goes well beyond the particular case. There are obvious and significant racial issues in this country, segregation issues, police accountability issues, and issues of our increasingly militarized police forces.
   
   What I have been astounded by are all of the people holding on desperately to their ridiculous racial and racist narratives. A lot of people need to look in the mirror. There is something on your face and it ain't pretty.
   
   Consider the overwhelming focus on looting. White people riot and loot as well, after sports games, for instance, and the narrative is always a "few idiots in every bunch" don't reflect the whole. Black people loot and all of a sudden the narrative is a community of barbarians destroying itself.
   
   Or the focus on the alleged robbery. A white boy commits a crime, which I also guarantee happens all the time, and they are unlikely to get in trouble and the narrative will be "acting up" or "boys will be boys." A black boy commits a crime and they are a criminal thug deserving of lying dead in the street.

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      TonniWmsTempleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Well all this may be true but we still need to take into a count that now days the people we feel are supposed to protect us are also the ones killing us and that "killing us" has no color to it they are killing and seems like no one cares. It just s

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      JThomp42posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Tonni.. why didn't the young man surrender when police had guns drawn on him? He just kept coming toward the police officer even after being shot. Police are human beings as well and have the same feelings as we do. Why did he not just surrender?

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      junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Several witness accounts (from real people) say he was surrendering. Only one anonymous report from someone who wasn't even there says Brown was "bumrushing" the officer.

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   cjhunsingerposted 10 years ago

   Tonni
   You give the impression that this case has been adjudicated and 'murder' was the out come. Why do you feel that you have the authority to try this case all by yourself? There is a big distinction between murder, man slaughter and justifiable homicide. 
   There seems to be an enormous bias and prejudice in your question and personally, I find that distasteful and a complete absence of the quest for justice. Is your presumption of 'murder' based on race or do you have evidence to back it up?

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      JThomp42posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      GREAT answer!!

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      TonniWmsTempleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Cjhunsinger
      
      As we can all see we are entitled to our opinions and I am allowed to express my feelings towards the "murder" now being distasteful is far from what I was trying to come across as and just as your opinion will not bring the truth to the

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Tonni--Your original question is racially motivated and carries a predetermination of guilt. That is more than an opinion; it is vile and there is no defense..

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   Norine Williamsposted 10 years ago

   EVERYONE seems to be missing the POINT!  Prejudice has been "TAUGHT" in America by the "AFFLUENT!"  If they would STOP portraying Blacks as people that are inhuman, ignorant, lazy, no account individuals then the police and others would not have the attitude that this policeman and many others in America have.  It is not this police's fault for he has been "TAUGHT" as others have!  The "BRAINWASHING" of all individuals towards Blacks and individuals being "WEAK" enough to listen is the problem!  Unless the MOVIE industry, the MEDIA, and others who continue to PUBLICIZE and produce animosity towards Blacks stops, PREJUDICE will continue! 
   
   However, individuals MUST be strong enough NOT to listen to what is being portrayed by the MEDIA, the MOVE industry, etc. and ask themselves "What Would Jesus do?"  And for those who do not believe in GOD, what is MORALLY right to do?  But if you are WEAK enough to continue to LISTEN how individuals are being portrayed, PREJUDICE will CONTINUE!

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      JThomp42posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      What about crimes of blacks on blacks. They are killing one another daily in this country. As far as how they are stereotyped, they are showing this to be the case in Ferguson.

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      junksellerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Nice job of perfectly proving her point.

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      JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      NO. They are proving their own point. They claimed to be stereotyped, but that is exactly what they are doing. Very well I might add.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      As though White on White crime doesn't exist? Come on now!

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      JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Michael Brown was a thug. Michael Brown is dead because of his actions. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

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      junksellerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      To be so absolutely certain about something you know next to nothing about is the work of a fool.

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      JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I have studied the case thoroughly and KNOW everything I need to know to come to this conclusion.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Are you really that WEAK?  You have studied what "THEY" have released public to study! Do you really believe the hype? There is "NO WAY" a person should be killed for "trivia!"  If one must be shot, why not shot in knees or tase?  Come on now!

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      JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      He was attacking the police officer (felony) after committing a strong armed robbery (felony)tried to grab his gun (felony)this is why his thumb had been shot.Kept hitting the police officer until he almost lost consciences. The officer had no choice

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       junksellerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       He ALLEGEDLY attacked the officer and ALLEGEDLY grabbed for the gun after ALLEGEDLY committing a robbery. You choose to believe he did those things without any proof.

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Nice response junkseller! JThomp42 has been "TAUGHT" well!  The point is "NO ONE" should be killed for "TRIVIA!"  He could have shot the kid in the knees or tasered him!  Come on now!  The police officer was the professional or was supposed to be!

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       JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, I have been TAUGHT to look at both sides of a situation before coming to a conclusion. As far as Brown; he is gone due to his criminal actions. Take Eric Garner,I have no idea what happend, only hearsay. So I would not even try to argue tht case

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       You look at BOTH SIDES of what THEY allow you to know! FACT: Kid stole cigs = KILLED! Come on now! NO justification!  There were other means is all I'm saying! The policeman was the professional? But they have been TAUGHT!

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       JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Norine Williams....... look up the FACTS before coming to a conclusion because of race. You are allowing BIAS and HATE guide you blindly.

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Can't you HEAR ME! Kid Killed for Cigs by a Prof? Just stating TRUTH! Society has TAUGHT "WEAK" individuals bigotry toward others as well!  But Blacks more so! Kid killed for Cigs? What?

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       JThomp42posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Brown was not killed for stealing "cigars." He was shot because he attacked a police officer again and again.Police are the same as you and I.What would you have done if this young man was punching you in the face repeatedly, trying 2 grab your gun??

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       cjhunsingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Norine--This is just plain silly and worse, hateful. Your response is racist and should be considered for what it is, a mindless and meaningless rant. Blacks are, perhaps, best portrayed by the pictures of  Ferguson looting?

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       junksellerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       You do not know that Brown stole anything or attacked anyone. Jumping to a conclusion without proof is often a reflection of bias, which is the exact point being made.

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I see there are some who just don't care about "HUMAN" life!  Sorry for you guys!  But I'm still praying!

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