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President Obama Needs To Get That Health Reform Completed...

  1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Sooner the better as far as our households concerned.
    Tired of all the repuplicans stalling and creating lots of nonsense ,while ordinary people suffer unncecessarily.
    Waiting on treatment denided by existing insurance companies ,or worse going without medical treatment.

    I have been to the Emergency room, before someone mentions the fact , know one is turned away from treatment.
    Then the $3,4 or 500 dollar bill arrives for 30 mins of treatment??
    Plain ridiculous!

    Why did life get so damnned complicated!

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, its all the Republicans fault! Do you expect this to be taken seriously? Watch out your employer will force you to buy a car!!

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Mayors are a waste of space and money anyway wink

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Look, a bright shiny object! Ewwwww, pretty!

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
            Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Its called your reflection ,silly lol

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      Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      To be clear, the republicians aren't the ones holding it up. The fighting has been between the democrats! If the democrats wanted to, they could pass a bill tomorrow!

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      C.J. Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      How will the current bill address that scenario?

    4. TimTurner profile image78
      TimTurnerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      How is this Republicans fault?  The Democrats have YET to issue a finished bill because they can't agree  haha

      And an ER bill won't be changed with this healthcare plan.

      You are misinformed about a lot of stuff but after last night's VA and NJ elections, Obama Drama is about to happen and the chances of a healthcare reform just went down.

  2. tksensei profile image61
    tksenseiposted 7 years ago

    After yesterday, Obamacare became even less likely.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      One dont mean the other TK, or America would quit fighting wars after Bush left (using your theory)

      1. tksensei profile image61
        tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Oh, I don't know. Politicians are generally fond of keeping their jobs.

  3. Eaglekiwi profile image74
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Im thinking most of the informed people ,who have written excellant hubs on America's healthcare are busy working right now. Bless them smile

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    A congressman Yarburough(DEM) stated that the cost of healthcare will go up for everyone and they never said it would be cheaper for anyone. If thats the case and people can't afford coverage now, how will they afford it when it's more expensive?

    1. rhamson profile image77
      rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      With what we have now do you think it will stay the same?

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        sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        How are people going to afford it? There aren't enough rich people, we do well but were under 200,000. Who's going to pay?

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          rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          How will we pay for it if it still goes up?  With no specifics all you do is throw around fear.  Fear of the unknown is especially dangerous to clarity when you try to find out the truth.  One truth is that healthcare has doubled in the last three years.  What will that mean in the future and especially if it is left alone as we have done?

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            Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Here's another truth, If government takes over healthcare the costs will rise EVEN FASTER then before until they step in and start rationing it! Just look at MA or TN. That's the future under gov care.

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              rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Why don't you look farther north and east in Canada and England for example.  The truth hurts too much to face it.

        2. Eaglekiwi profile image74
          Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Its already been explained how its going to be paid for- you just dont agree with it.

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            Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It's NOT going to be paid for! Tricks and gimmicks were used to make it appear deficit neutral. If MA is any indication, the one trillion dollar price tag will more likely be 5 or 10 trillion and lead to a bankrupt nation who China will no longer lend money to! Try to get health care then when the gov checks are bouncing and inflation is double digits!

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            sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            So you thinks it's fair that I pay for my family and two or three more? Because if people like us aren't burdened with it there's no one left to pay.

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              Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2638/4057228318_6babdc3bc1_o.jpg

            2. rhamson profile image77
              rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              My question not of how is it fair but how are we going to pay for healthcare costs that have doubled in three years now  and what about it in another three years if we do nothing?  Do I support the current plan.  Not neccesarily but void of one what is the alternative I think the current plan will morph into the public option but how can we complain if we are offered no alternative?

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                Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                An alternative has been introduced by the republicans that does not increase the deficit or raise taxes, and opens up free-market competition. But the dem congress refuses to even discuss it. I don't think it's far fetched to say that the current congress want their way or no way over this issue. That's why I don't believe this is about healthcare, but about govt control.

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                Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                There has been plenty of alternatives offered by the republicans, but the democrats refused to consider them and wouldn't bring them to the floor in any of the committees. Yup, that's the bi-partisan change we can believe in!

                1. rhamson profile image77
                  rhamsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I guess you will have to wait and change it when your party of choice gets into power.  This is a representative government and if it truly represents us then it should vote as they are directed too.  Sorry,  maybe if and when another president of your liking and mindset gets in the healthcare can be repealed.  They repealed prohibition didn't they and that was an act of congress.

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                    Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    That is actually the one bright spot in all of this. It can all be changed.

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                    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Well you know Obama said no federal dollars for abortion but, he didn't tell palosi that because abortion on demand is in the bill. Do you really think people who did it right should have to pay for someone else's immoral behavior. Why is their lack of personal control my problem and why do I have to pay for it? I didn't have sex with that person!

  5. Eaglekiwi profile image74
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Yea but thats the only problem I have with Pres Obama not pushing the bill through sooner. All these talks ,and debates.

    We just wish he would quit talking and 'do it'

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      A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      A minority "we" won't get it done, sorry bout your luck!

    2. tksensei profile image61
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      A very democrat attitude toward changing the country whether people like it or not.

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Democracy??? in America ,um think that left a few years back TK!

        Why vote in a leader ,that you dont want to lead? crazy

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          sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          We're waiting on him to do just that.

        2. tksensei profile image61
          tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Read it again. I didn't say "Democracy."

  6. habee profile image89
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    It's Bush's fault!

    Sorry. We hadn't had one of those on this forum yet, so I decided it was time to throw one in.

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      Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL smile

  7. habee profile image89
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    Of course it's about control...and money! The R's don't want to piss off the insurance companies and the D's don't want to piss off the trial lawyers (no tort reform).

  8. habee profile image89
    habeeposted 7 years ago

    BO sold us down the river when he made that secret deal with Pharma. And reducing the price of my prescriptions was what I was really hoping for in any HC legislation. Guess that ain't gonna happen!

 
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