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You must admit, Peeples, that if they grew up in "Christian" homes, they surely weren't following Christ's moral imperative, which makes them unChristian. A "Christian" is not known by lip service alone, but by LIVING the example set forth by Christ.
I think we can honestly conclude that they did not know God and certainly could not "hear" His Words; thus, C.J. has it...
CJ, you are so right. With that remember most "Christians" aren't really Christians to begin with.
"Oh but he's not big and strong, so he can't be Scottish!" - The "no real scotsman fallacy"
If Jesus' moral teachings are so great, then how come so many people claiming they follow his teachings do so many bad things? So easily misconstrued.
How is a book riddled with the message of tolerance, love, gentleness, forgiveness, and being non-judgmental, the one most often used to justify intolerance, hate, harshness, condemnation, and judgement? I wonder if I'm reading the same book.
JunkSeller - a great books is like a score. It lies on the page until it is read. The music played by readers of the Bible is their lives. Some play well. Others are, for now, off tune. All we can do is listen, and act, and do it all again humbly.
The Bible isn't very clear. There are so many instances where it contradicts itself that it becomes useless as a moral guidance. You're reading the book and thinking your interpretation is 'right'. Everyone else has a different one.
SidKemp. I'm always telling my nephew, "no anger at the piano." He gets frustrated easily. I tell him that ire blocks the flow of the music. Thanks for reminding me as well. I too get frustrated too easily.
Peeples: I have attended 12 different "Christian" denominations in my lifetime. I have served on various church committees and know what I am talking about. In truth, many "church goers" are not much different than Phil2012, Nightwork and Junkseller.
CJ, not living up to your expectations is a compliment. Thanks.
really convenient -- if someone professes to be christian, but doesnt act the way you want them too, you get to label them non-christian!
It shouldn't be that hard to figure out. The Bible clearly states that you can tell a tree by the fruit it bears. 80% of our true character is determined by what what we do in secret. 10% is determined by public deeds and another 10% by what we say.
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About the maturity and intelligence you would expect from a man of faith. Not the loving thing to do - insult without reason, typical.
The sort of thinking that holds back society and leaves it to rot solemnly back into the earth.
I apologize, Phil2012, but most of your comments remind me of the arguments I could garner down at the local junior high school, so I just thought I would make a remark that was "right up your alley". I assessed my target audience and spoke in kind.
For someone that doesn't understand evolution, I think you're being a little too harsh on local junior high schoolers.
Fact is, I have studied evolutionary thought for over 30 years. The problem with macro evolution is that it is flat-out impossible. Those who subscribe to evolutionary theory have a limited grasp on creation, thus they do not realize their fallacy.
Sludge, I think you mean to say 'I studied evolutionary thought over 30 years ago'. Macro evolution has an incredible foundation of evidence, from chromosomal mutations leading up to speciation to the explanation of bacterial evolution. Read up!
How would it even be possible to have a "limited grasp of creation?" God created the world. The end. It is literally 4 words. If you want to be long-winded, you can add, "and everything in it." Still only 8 words.
obviously 30 yrs of 'study' hasnt imparted the basic of evolution or sledge wouldn't make such laughable claims about it; for a preview of his next argument see http://cascoly.hubpages.com/hub/Top-10-Creationist...
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Exactly, the more of us committed to actually solving the problem the better, how can people sit back and blame all of our problems on a lack of faith..
No... you have it wrong. We need to ban all men, because they are always the perps to every crime. Then we need to abolish the color black, because all bad guys wear black. Then we need to stop teachers from having children, because their kids kill.
I frankly don't see a connection between the rage that builds inside people to the point of exploding like it did today, and the NRA. The problem is the uncontrolled rage. If they didn't have guns these people would make bombs and kill.
You are exactly right, Cam. Our government only cares about this situation because they see it as an opportunity to disarm the people.
Cascoly, I apologise for CJ Sledgehammer, you made an informative and intelligent comment - I'm sorry that one of the few yet relentless religious individuals is spoiling your efforts here on HubPages.
The problem many sources. Gun control (which is constitutional, and has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment) can help. Social programs can help. Deeper work to understand the collective & individual consciousness to end fear & violence is th
Phil: So, now I'm spoiling Cascoly's efforts on Hubpages? And, how may I ask, can that be accomplished? Sometimes I think you just say anything...anything at all. It's as if you are infatuated with your own opinion or just like to hear yourself talk.
philanthropy - thanks for your concern, but i don't get too bothered by comments like sludgehummer's
ccma8510 - the connection is that the NRA opposes ANY attempt to regulate weapons - of course that's only part of the problem
Sludgehummer? Now that would be funny if I were still in junior high. But, as it is I shall leave you and your sophomoric quips in peace. There is nothing more I care to hear from you.
that's the best news i've all week!
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You know, Nightwork4, for a guy who claims to believe in tolerance, but not in God...you sure spend a great deal of time talking about Him and show strong signs of being one of the most antagonistic, hypocritical and intolerant individuals around.
nightwork4, I agree. Even if we had a nation full of God fearing individuals, just one disturbed person is all it takes to cause a massacre. God, assuming one exists, somehow made us with brains so that we could govern intelligently and responsibly.
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Eric Dierker says
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Oh my! I just turned on the TV tonight and heard about the school shootings. I was so unaware this had happened when I made my original comment. I pray for the families, wishing for peace and healing. Even good news would not be satisfactory now.
Debra Allen says
Did I read somewhere that you are a practicing witch?
LOL no witch. People hate truth with a passion. They will twist it to make no sense whatsoever and those who bring it out into the open are they claim Witches or Satan or some Evil thing.l Oh well!
I did not mean to offend you, Lady Guinevere, I truly thought I read a comment somewhere concerning as much. I apologize for being wrong. Yes, I will have to resort to blaming others for what is going on in this country, because I am not the problem.
You didn't offend me. I have been called worse things than that.
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Sid Kemp says
I hinted at it in my comment, but stopped short. Thanks for being braver than I.
I hadn't heart about CT when I wrote my reply. May we learn and teach the way of Peace, in the name of any religion or none, and heal our hearts so that we stop doing these things. Not legislation, not abstract religion, but a true change of heart.
Sounds good, Sid, but what power is strong enough to overcome the greed, hate, perversion, violence, and darkness that resides in the average human's heart? If you know...I'm all ears.
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Chris Mills says
But, look for the White House to capitalize on this tragedy to disarm the American public.
CJ Sledgehammer says
You really have no shame.
Was it something I said?!?!?!?
No, I think what you mean is that I show no fear and the truth is my constant companion.
CJ- i might get banned for saying this but you make me sick .
Here here nightwork
Nightwork...why would you get banned? I am glad I "make you sick" and I am glad I offend, uninvited writer, and tick off guys like Phil2012 and Earnest. If you people liked me and found favor with me...it would mean I live in deep spiritual darkness.
CJ Sledgehammer, I don't dislike you, I don't know you.
But I do think ill of your intelligence and education - you're clearly not the brightest crayon in the pack but had we known each other, I still might have liked you.
Phil2012: Again...your words ring hollow and are spoken with a forked-tongue. The truth is that you hate me with every fiber of your being. Fact is, if you could silence my voice for good..you would not hesitate. I know a charlatan when I see one.
your ignorance of the basics of evolution is unfortunately all too common in america
Evolution gives rise to little Stallins and Maos. The murderous kid, who just shot up the whole state of Conneticut, was acting upon evolutionary impulses - the survival of the fitest and natural selection...after all, he's just an animal w/o purpose
evolution has 'given rise' to EVERY ORGANISM in existence, so your point is meaningless - u show an ignorance of what evolution actually is [giving u the beneoft of the doubt - alternatively, you're purposely distorting the concept of evolution]
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