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Best Answer Terry A. Kennedy says
I totally agree with you Terry. If you read my question again, you might see that I appose the belief of hell. Because I to believe that hell is a man made myth.
Yes, the LIE that man made, saying hell is eternal and currently in-the-works, is a lie. Read Gen. 3:19. If hell is real now, or eternal then the soul is NOT dead and God would be an unmerciful liar.
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William E Krill Jr says
How do these verse reinforce your belief of hell? How does the Gospel support any notion of a place called hell?
"Hell" is another translation for grave in the greek context, just as "sheol" in the old testamament means the same in hebrew. There is no hell right now. If so, none are dead. Must be alive to be punished in hell.
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Mitch Alan says
They were saved from certain eternal death by the grace of God in the person of His Son Jesus Christ. Revelation 20:9-10,14 and Revelation 21:1-4.. Just posted new article "Eternal Hell....but God is merciful isn't He??" scripture is provided.
I agree Terry
Is it your opinion that "certain eternal death" is a ceasing to exist, rather than eternal separation from God? The soul is temporary and not eternal?
The soul only exists as long as the body still has life. When the body dies, the soul ceases to exist and the spirit goes back to God thanks be given to Christ.
So, the soul is eternal? I believe it is.
What happens to a soul who rejects Christ's offer of salvation? Eternal separation from God or nihilism?
When the body dies the soul ceases to exist. Why do you ask me what happenes to it after we die when I already told you what I believe?
What is you differentiation between the spirit and the soul?
Genesis 2:7 says that when God created Adam, he became a living soul. Now I maybe wrong, but Christ tells me that when God destroys the body, He destroys the soul as well. This was what death was before Christ. An unconsience sleep in our graves.
Where is the destruction of the soul/spirit descibed by Christ? Did everyone prior to the Cross cease to exist when their bodies died? Why are soul/spirits now eternal? Is faith in Christ needed for salvation or do you believe everone is saved?
I never mentioned anything about the destruction of the spirit. I said both body and soul.
How do you define the difference? What happened to the spirits of those that died prior to the cross? Does faith in the finished work of the cross have any bearing on salvation or are all saved?
Scripture says that the living know they shall die, but the dead know nothing Ecc9:5-6. But as to now in this day and age, have you ever studied the three feasts of ancient Israel? i believe the answer lies in this old tradition and 1Cor 15:20-23
Mr. Alan, please read: Genesis 3:19, Romans 3:23, Revelation 20:14, Ezekiel 18:4, Gen. 2:17. Notice in revelation 20 the tense of "devoured" if you burn 4ever u r not dead because u must live to feel pain of hell.
What do you do with verses like Matthew 25:46 which reads, “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Hell is real and just as eternal as heaven. One in the presence of God and the other separated from Him.
The word is :age", not everlasting. Who was Christ talking about? The Jews, not the gentiles.
The chapter starts with "All the nations will be gathered before Him". It is Jew and Gentile, all peoples. The word aionios is always forever, aion is a time. aionios is used in Mat 25:46 & in John 6:40 where eternal life is spoken about. same wo
matt 23-25 is about the second coming of Christ. He came back spiritually AD70 with the destruction of Jerusalem, the temple and the Jewish religion. Everything He spoke was spiritually spoken and not to be taken literally. John 6:63
You believe He has returned, battled Armeggedon, taken His believers with Him in the sky...ruled on earth for a 1000 years, released Satan and banished him? When did this happen? why are we still here? where is the new earth?
Mike, I understand your interpretation of scripture because I was in the same ditch. God has removed the carnal sight, and now I see scripture as it was meant to be understood. You should pray for this gift. It helps.
Do you just ramdomly dismiss verses & chapters of the Bible? Do you decide to give your own definition to words? Help me understand how logically, gramatically etc, you dismiss the verses I've quoted, Not just quote another verse, but address tho
It is your interpretation of these verses that I dismiss.
We do not read the Bible the way it is; we read it the way we are. --Evelyn Uyemura
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