Eternal security
So you feel saved ?
Good!
Now I wonder...
Saved from what ?
Why is it that you do not know the origins of these stories. I guess you don't want to challenge your beliefs, so it is easier to just believe the "good book."
No credibility in that.
Either refute the older stories that came before, or stop spouting rubbish would be my cut on it.
That is a flat statement without any supporting argument. What does it mean? NOTHING at all, because you don't even know what came before do you? What and where is your argument? There is no proof for your bible, but there is proof of the Egyptian gods this all came from!
I find you're fanatical beliefs downright scary!
Posts got crossed on that one Jerami, it was aimed at the OP.
Eternal security?? More like security for eternity.
If it's anything, it's "Eternal Liberty".
Eternal L I F E ! !The only eternal security your "agape" god has in store for me is a lake of fire. I don't wish to accept this loving gift from him. Is that okay?
Sorry, but Allah and a host of other gods are all lined up for you and I to provide an answer as to why we didn't worship them. You'll burn in Islamic hell if you can't convince Allah. Why don't you just accept Allah?
And, as usual, I deeply respect that you and your god will send me to hell. Deeply.
Your "god" was around thousands of years before the bible or any other sky fairy mentioned in the religious tomes written by a bunch of controlling sexist old men.
These stories are repeats of stories already told! The only difference is who you worship. Any entity that requires worship is psychotic.If you have enough guts to find out, you can trace these beliefs back to thousands of years before your books. All this religious crap was written thousands of years before you read it in your tomes.
Another suggestion is to balance your serotonin levels and then get back to me about your "god!"
Never saw a single religionist keep there beliefs with balanced brain chemistry.
The fear which retains your belief becomes apparent immediately after onset and you will laugh at the incredible crap you swallowed to avoid an irrational fear. All religion is simply insanity driven by deep sub-conscious terror. Once confronted this fear dissipates leaving no reason to continue ruining your life trying to ram this crud down other peoples throats to ward off the terror felt within.Looks like you went off the deep end and on a tangent posting Earnest - apparently your assumption on whose brain chemicals are imbalanced is askew
Don't know anything about brain chemistry h.a.borcich?
Never mind, I can recommend some good scientific studies if you like.
Or you can take the challenge.
Like I said. get back to me when you find out that your beliefs are just inner terror.Just so! don't worship me? You die a horrible death! More like hitler than any sort of intelligent entity!
Yeh right! The sky fairy will get ya! What an incredibly naive pile of crud this stuff is!
Your god could crawl under the carpet with a high hat on and not leave a bump!
My God does not terrify me
You are just playing a game claiming to know what and why I believe what I do!
Do you really think it looks sane for anyone to post numerous insults and inflamitory remarks to people he is calling chemically unbalanced?
I think it is sad but funny that you think you are the sane one !!!I love this! "Vulgar, full of hate", etc etc, followed by have a nice day! typical!
As I have said before, I don't do hate, I leave that to your god.
Here is some scripture so you can deny it, say it is out of context, or that you reckon it is OK to be a psychopathic invisible entity.
"Should people cheat God? Yet you have cheated me! "But you ask, 'What do you mean? When did we ever cheat you?' "You have cheated me of the tithes and offerings due to me. You are under a curse, for your whole nation has been cheating me. Bring all the tithes into the storehouse so there will be enough food in my Temple. If you do," says the LORD Almighty, "I will open the windows of heaven for you. I will pour out a blessing so great you won't have enough room to take it in! Try it! Let me prove it to you! Your crops will be abundant, for I will guard them from insects and disease. Your grapes will not shrivel before they are ripe," says the LORD Almighty. (Malachi 3:8-11 NLT)
(Doesn't it seem really stupid that an all-powerful God claims he can bring food and grapes to the masses but he can't even feed himself?)
No insanity here! .... much This "challenge" would at least give you an opportunity to refute these statements.
I have read the bible. It says the garbage the OP says that it says.
Believe or die.
You claim to be a bible-believing Christian. Presumably you either agree with this - or you have decided to re-write the bible to mean whatever it is you want it to mean - like all the other Xtians.
Yet you cannot even define this invisible god you claim to worship.
How is "followers of super natural divinities" an insult? It is a statement of fact.
You are easily led because you have been offered the nonsensical prize of eternal life, Only If You Believe ; your god is super natural, he is a divinity and you do follow it. And - you want to fight about it.
Thank you. It is people like you who taught me that this is utter nonsense. If you were a genuine christian - what would you be doing here defending this super natural divinity that you follow?
But - I am genuinely interested to hear your definition of this god thing. I have spent 45 years asking believers to define it and all I ever get is "you would not understand because you don't believe. I am special and I understand it but I cannot define it, and you need to do as I say because I know what it wants," or alternatively, contradictory gobbledegook like our self-proclaimed condescending gnostics offer which means, "Everything is god and I know something you don't know. Nya nya ne nya nya!"
Which is funny - because when I did believe - the answer was "don't ask to define the undefinable - just believe and you will have eternal life. Now shut up and do as I say because I know what it wants......."
So - no offense intended - I am genuinely interested in your definition of whatever it is that you worship.
Getitrite, over the two years I have been posting here I have never seen a religionist reply sensibly to, or even address these issues. they just avoid it or quote from the "good book" They never confront what is written in their tomes, never answer any scientific assertions, or follow links that may threaten their beliefs.
I feel confident that they avoid doing so as they may have to learn something new that disagrees with them and provides reasonable proof.
So many of us have tried, we have all failed.
In 2000 years not a sign of proof. Not one prayer answered that has any proof despite millions of prayers daily, not one dot of proof for their beliefs, and no capacity to see the stupidity of a "god" who has to be worshipped on threat of death!
It is simply irrational fear of death that drives this nonsense!What about them pristine virgins that are the reward for the sacrificed Muslims? Does that count for any damn thing? Ha-ha!
Sounds a bit like a song title!
Ha-ha!
Quoting scripture and in denial about hating
Insanity for sure. Predictable !H.A Why don't you and other religionists just address the issues raised in your book of hate?
That would be the sane thing to do. What you think of me in none of my business. I didn't think you had read any of my hubs!
Decreased activity in the brain's parietal lobe is one of the causes of religiosity by the way. I may do a complete hub on brain chemistry.
I find religion to be an insult to thinking.
Dopamine uptake when disproportionate and unbalances causes belief in all sorts of bullsh*t phenomena such as religion, and lessens the capacity to be rational.
Without knowing anything about it, you just keep spouting this stuff in a vain attempt to persuade others because the sub-conscious already knows it is rubbish.. That is what drives religionists to ram this crap down others throats.
Of course none of you will ever do a thorough investigation of this, as you would then have to look at yourselves.Freud was a bit loopy wasn't he? He got some very important things right though, although his basic dislike of religion was poorly based. Modern psychology (Jungian and post Jungian)is another matter altogether.
Jung created enough empirical evidence of his beliefs over forty odd years to sink a ship, and denial of much of it would be drawing a very long bow indeed, and would not stand the light of day. I have enough knowledge of brain chemistry to walk in doing 10 hubs on it. Peer reviewed, double blind studies I have about 20 meg of it. I like to read. I have all of Jung, most of Hillman, all of Von Franz and ten years worth of brain chemistry data to call on.
I also know the bible and quoran from cover to cover, and would bet you do not have the same depth of knowledge of brain chemistry and psychology as I have of your beliefs. SirDent.
If you know anything about mechanical things you can check to see if I tell the truth or not about what I say I know very easily.Time. The great leveller for all who wrote before. Some of Freud has stood up to the test of time, some has been confirmed as complete rot.
Being wrong about some or even many things does not make all that he wrote wrong.
Hi Earnest - be careful, the last time insults were mentioned a little tribe turned up to get others banned
Ah yes, thanks for the reminder I do recall this happening.
Some of the religiously pious have been banned lately, but they seem to breed like flies!
- philip carey 61posted 14 years ago
0 All these comments & answers make me remember when I was in prep school
By the way H.A.Borich, the original post was not even directed at you! You took it on as if you were the only person here. Check it out.
Then you tell me I have problems in a smart a*sed way and laugh at the brain chemistry comment. Next thing I see you using my argument against Mark!
"What a joke Mark! I truly believe your bible bashing gang is chemically unbalanced AND DEAF!!"
Your words I believe!
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