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So - how do you handle those that abort the living child? Do you love the aborted child and love the sinner? Or do you attempt to change the sinner so that you can love both a living child and parent? This is one of those "Do Unto Others".
Aborting the living child is murder. Yes you love the child and love the sinner. The sinner does have to expect consequences. That is Biblical. God loved David. David committed adultery with Bathsheba and sent Uriah to be killed. God loved Davi
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Robert Allen Johnson says
we are to rebuke the sinner, unless they repent. Loving the sinner that does not repent is following and supporting the sin. Preaching is to be considered training, not chastisement. Being a Christian is truly different through righteousness.
Wow, I don't agree at all. Loving someone has no relation to agreeing with their lifestyle. Who did Christ spend more time with, by the way, the religious or sinners? He actively showed love to them. God is love and that's who I'd like to emulate.
johnsonrallen-- i assume you are talking to taburkett and His totally unscriptural/unCHristian reply. agreed we are to show them love and teach them truth by example so they desire what we have, the Love of God.
Yes, I am. I see Christ loving sinners He came in contact with BEFORE they changed their lives. It was love that turned their lives around.
Luke17:3Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, if he repents, forgive him.
to the wicked God says:What right have you to recite my laws
or take my covenant on your lipsYou hate my beliefs
and cast my words behind you.
He's talking about believers, not nonbelievers. There are different commands for both. Anyway, we'll agree to disagree. I will choose to love as Christ loved, by example.
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James E Cressler says
Each individual must accept responsibility for their actions. This includes sins associated with their wicked agenda.
Acts 13:38 “Therefore, my friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you."
Sri T (the mystic) says
quite apparently you are not a Christian so i would not expect you to understand the question
Sinners have directly affected me, my family, and friends. They directly affect others daily. That sin against man is an attack on man and makes God angry. When a person worships God, God delivers prominence.
tab-- explain. I do not understand what you are trying to say here
I just have the wisdom to leave it to God.
SriT-- that is not a scriptural stance
Sinners have killed my family members. Sinners have rapped my family members. Sinners have stolen from my family and friends. Sinners continue to attack all who follow God's law. When a person worships God, they prosper through righteousness.
Tab, Romans 3:23 3 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us
Sinners are not "they." Sinners are "we."
no Dianne -- Christians are no longer sinners, yes we sin but we were made righteous through the acceptance of the blood of CHrist for our payment. we may sin bur are no longer sinners, they have not accepted His payment
That is true celafoe. I was attempting to address Tab's comment about all of the sinners doing things to his family?
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what does this have to do with the above question?
We must lead the lost sheep back to the flock. However, unlike the shepherds sheep, wickedness in humans causes them to deny God. Through denial, the wicked continue to lead others down the sinners path.
TAB-- only the willing can be led astray see James 1:14
That is true for the post sheep and the flock...but what of the shepherd? Jesus is the good shepherd but we are shepherds in our own right as well. Consider the difference and you'll see a different harder side of Christianity that cannot turn away.
jcr- not sure I understand what you are trying to say. there is ONLY 1 Shepherd, but i certainly know many "UNDERshepherds" that are leading God's people astray. and certainly we are ALL responsible to lead the lost to CHrist
The child will be lost when trained by the wicked one. Under the spell of evil the child will not know the correct path. We must wear the whole armor of God, so that we can stand against the devils schemes. This will allow us to shepherd the lost.
My point is that even though you don't like what some people do, you still have to love them enough to bring them back to the right path. As Christians, a group of Christians don't need our attention.1 sinner does. That is carrying the message.
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