What Is The Holy Spirit?

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   PhoenixVposted 8 years ago

   What Is The Holy Spirit?

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   palanorjposted 8 years ago

   You cannot begin to grasp the Holy Spirit without grappling with the entire trinity.
   
   God, the Father, is the first revealed aspect of God. Usually when we just generically refer to God, we are referring to the Father. God, the Son, is the Word of God or more precisely the Logos of the Father. Logos is a more encompassing word than "word" in English. It can mean speech and reason. One way its been put is that God knowledge or awareness of Himself is so perfect that it is not an idea, but is another person.
   
   Now to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the love the Father has for the Son and the love that the Son has for the Father. Again, it's existence is so perfect is it not a mere emotion or sentiment, but a person.
   
   Thus in understanding how the Trinity always works in that the Father sends the Son through the power of the Holy Spirit. So in Genesis, when it says "And God said let there be light" and there was light, it is through God's Word that things come into being and it is through his love that the Word is sent out to create (God's spirit is mentioned in Genesis before the first words of creation are spoken).
   
   The same comes with the incarnation of Christ. Through the power of the Holy Spirit (God's love), the Word of God becomes flesh.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      So Norine that does not make any sense,  the truth always makes sense , quit forcing your belief to change the truth of which you can not explain.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "..grappling..?"  There's NO "grappling" if/when Holy Spirit "reveals!"  (Jn 14:26;16:13)
      
      I pray your heart be enlightened!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine pray more for yourself and speak truth not traditional doctrines. Better to be very sure of what you say, because you will be accountable as everyone else.
      Just like a doctor who practice and say wrong diagnosis
      He is held accountable.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      RJ,
      That is a very cool explanation. Well worth consideration and thoughtfulness. Thank you

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Also Elijah repeating history does not mean destination,  example we can drive down our street everyday , does that mean the same people will live in your block everyday as long as you live there? No because people move and change locations .

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      k&t: I PRAY ur eyes r enlightened!  What needs explaining? (Matt 13:10-13) WORD given! I stand on HIS WORD & will before the "judgment seat of Christ!" Eli is RIGHT! "Predestined" from our mother's womb" unless GOD doesn't KNOW past, present

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Elijah what does being female,  and male have to do with the subject.
      Man have children women help, the same routine since cain and Abel births
      We still do it the same way.
      Face it we sin, and we die , proof we come from Adam and Eve our relatives

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   Ericdierkerposted 8 years ago

   This is a most interesting question. I hope some bible oriented linear thinking types will give us some "definitions" with citations. It first caught my eye because of "what". I never thought of the Holy Spirit as a thing. And then I was even more interested by the absence at the end of: "to you". I would think the generally thought of way to ask this question is "Who is the Holy Spirit to you?".
   Seemingly a Spirit does not exist in the material. Our way of speaking of a spirit would defy a concrete definition. Our natural primal senses cannot experience a spirit and our words are about describing our natural experiences.
   So my straightforward answer to this question is; There is no such thing.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "So my straightforward answer to this question is; There is no such thing."  My God Eric!  Do you not believe Scripture (John 14:26 & 16:13)?

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine, pull yourself together and re-read what I wrote. The Holy Spirit is not a "thing". Do you think that based on John - all of it -- that the Holy Spirit is a thing?

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric: No sir brother!  Jn 14:26 said {paraphrasing} "His Father would send HS "IN MY NAME" (JESUS) so HS has a Name & that Name is JESUS (Phil 2:10)!

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   Kiss andTalesposted 8 years ago

   The Holy Spirit is God's active force , he uses his force to get things done.
   Example ( Jg 14:6 Then Jehovah’s spirit empowered him, and he tore it in two, just as someone tears a young goat in two with his bare hands. But he did not tell his father or mother what he had done.)
   Also in Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and desolate, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters.
   
   King James Version
   Ge 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
   simple God power is his active force known as his spirit.
   
   Also Jesus said that God would send a helper. That helper was the power of God that allowed them to speak in a foreign language instantly without any education .
   Also note that in this wonderful vision mention by John who does he see .
   New World Translation
   Re 3:5 The one who conquers will thus be dressed in white garments, and I will by no means blot out his name from the book of life, but I will acknowledge his name before my Father and before his angels.
   Notice the holy spirit is not mention , because it is not a person . But God's force of power.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine the scriptures say different then you.
      Notice ,
      Re 14:1Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.
      Where is the third who you say is .

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: What Scripture says diff than me? Ur bible differs? Show me where diff?  "..who have his name (Jesus) & (which is also) the name of his Father.." Not 2 different names!  (Phil 2:10).
      FATHER=WHAT/JESUS=WHO!
      
      What 3rd one? (Eph 4:4-6
      
      NOTE

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine you said Jesus was Holy Spirit , he can not be if he said the Father will send holy spirit , if you said I am going to send my Daughter , your Daughter is not you. Because if so you would simply say I am coming to you.
      The clear truth.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NW notice Phil. 2:10 states "name of Jesus" and not "name Jesus," That is why I wrote the hub *Why It's Written "In the Name 'Of' Jesus",* to show the difference in the meanings of those two terms.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Elijah reality is  we live in this world , example like a class room , yes you have a room full of students ,does the teacher know who is destined to fail , No, you work that out for yourself,  that power lies with you.
      If failing leave.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: If I sent ltr "in name of Norine" ltr reads fm "Norine!" If Scripture says "in name of Jesus" then Jesus It is! GOD no's heart while we get hung up on "names!" If Scripture would've said in name of Joshua" I'd blv & GOD no's heart! Glorify H

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine the very first Angel is a first son.King James Version
      Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. Notice Angels are sons, the first Angel would be Michael.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: Did "Michael" come (I Tim 3:16) "in the flesh" & die for u? We r "sons of God" too but didn't die for ur sins!  What does an "Angel" (Michael) have 2 do w/ur "salvation?"
      
      We should "reconcile" to GOD by following instr for "salvation!"

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The word archangel is derived from the Greekἀρχάγγελος (arch- + angel, literally chief angel).[1]
      
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      Jude 9But when Miʹcha·el the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: Keep ur eyes on SALVATION!  Michael an Angel, not JESUS nor "manifested in the flesh" (GOD)! We're trying to be citizen in New Govt, not analyze GOD nor ALL His Works for we will NEVER no ALL!

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       The point is this is proof of two different Bodies or spiritual beings not one.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       NW, I finished high school & don't spell well but I understand words' meanings. Saying in the name of jesus is like saying in the name of president, president of where? Who is it? It's a title or pseudonym, the name is something else, not Jesus

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: Well, I guess Eph 4:4-6 LIED + other Scriptures!
       
       Eli: Not doubting intelligence!
       
       What's Name then, if "pen name?" If Bible said in name of JOSHUA OK!
       
       Phil 2:10 LIED or HS hasn't "revealed" to me? (I'm willing to "Grow!)
       
       Prove w/Script

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       The scriptors aren't lying, misinterpretation of the meanings causes one to perceive and not comprehend. Saying the knowledge of good is nor saying the tree of good and evil. Knowledge has nothing to prove either term, it's a concept without proof.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Eli: If not n WORD, against Holy Spirit for He doesn't speak against Himself!  U must have read in Script to interpret this way! Where?  He did say He'd show us "Things to come" (Jn 16:13)! I want to "Grow!"  Tell me!What Script lead u to blv this

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       So your question did Michael come as the savior , yes he did he was born as flesh , and return in a spirit body he had before.That is why the Bible mentions his name.
       Because he is the prince of God who is a king .
       If you deny this you have no hope

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Eli: If u don't share (Acts 8:31; I Pet 3:15), against Scripture! 
       
       K&T: U MUST have "different bible!"  My bible says "JESUS" not Michael!  U worship Michael, & I'll cont to worship JESUS who DIED for me! Jesus-Savior lies my "hope!" (Heb 1

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine1Th 4:16because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, (with an archangel’s voice )
       and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.
       Jesus has the voice of the Archangel Michael.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: Did u read Heb 1:4-14? Did IT Lie? Why u keep calling His Word a LIE? Look what "religion" has done to u! "...with the voice of an Archangel.." JESUS can "sound like" an "archangel" or ANYTHING. NO limit! I can "sound like" others, but not m

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       The bible did not say you or anyone else . But you keep scoffing and stoning truth of what is said . No need to keep writing to you.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       NW, Without a new birth like a natural one man can't begin to understand the scriptures, it raises one's mind to spirit's level.  How many times have you read "let him who has ears heard what the spirit say," that's needed to comprehend scriptures.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: Does ur Heb 1:4-14 says "Jesus is angel?"  Did u also notice GOD called Jesus, "O God" (v8)? I wouldn't lie, I repeat Scripture!  I will stand before the "Judgment Seat of Christ" & tell same thing (He Knows)! Yes, u don't want TRUTH, le

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine I am happy and confident in what the bible says, I do not doubt it in any letter.
       So your your beliefs should not be directed at me.
       I do not agree with you, nor do I appreciate your replies of mocking .
       We go our separate ways.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: I use WORD! Mocking not me! Heb 1:4-14 is WRITTEN! Don't DIE bcuz of "tradition" r "teachings!"
       
       Eli: U thk Peter & Paul's disagreement reflected "No New Birth?" Diff levels of understanding until "revelation!" Revealed to u, TELL or ag

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       So Elijah Notice Isa 66:1This is what Jehovah says: “The heavens are my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where, then, is the house that you could build for me, And where is my resting-place?”.
       You can not contain God,but you are contained here

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Yeshua told us where it is in Luke 17:21 & John 2:18-21, John repeated it in 1 John 1:9, how much more evidence do you need to know where the temple is?

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Because he is a direct seed of Jehovah,  even with a human mother who birth him
       He existed before us all , and has return to heaven .
       You sin because you age and get sick. You make mistakes
       And we can die. If our forefathers die we can die as well

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       All life are seeds of Yehuveh that doesn't manifest itself as its seed provider until rebirth. Yeshua's spiritual and natural births happened together whereas most man, except Gen 1:26-28s, don't, the flood destroyed that seed in man-en-mass though.

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Elijah Noah including 7 others survive the flood, we come from their bodies , did they die eventually yes, all humans still die regardless of how it can happen. 
       So far you are living on this planet in the same condition as everyone else.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       KT, the 8 are 4 tribes, Druids Europe, Aboriginal Australia, 1 of Asians & 1 of the Americas who lived spiritual/sinless lives & now have ceased living it to experience living under Revelation 13s Beast to prove themselves worthy of eternal l

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   The0NatureBoyposted 8 years ago

   The word holy simply mean "complete" and spirit means "the intended understanding of," thus, holy spirit means to man on earth, "the complete understanding of the purpose of everything on earth."  Another term for holy spirit is wise (Daniel 12:10) or wisdom which require one to forsake all "Judgmental Adjectives" like good/evil, pretty/ugly, right/wrong and the others which has nothing concrete to cause all man to call the same things either so some man will call something one thing while other man will call it the other. 
   
   The life-force of all life is also called holy spirit or the "comforter" which will bring all things to one's remembrance (John 14:26).  During our multitude of incarnations all experiences are recorded on one's life-force and after the metamorphosis or new birth it will begin to teach the conscious mind OF MAN how to understand the things we experience.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine proof he was not holy spirit if he is standing next to them saying the Father will send it, if he was holy spirit no need to send anything, if he was his Father no need to send anything because he was there in there midst.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      KT, Holy Spirit is an understanding heard via spiritual ears only, Holy Ghost is a whole man able to do what Jesus did after his resurrection. The translators didn't know that and often used spirit where ghost should be and vise versa.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Precisely!  The "complete" "intended understanding of" which confirms Jn 14:26 & 16:13!  Great!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine you are wrong and Elijah is wrong, based on scriptures the holy spirit is given from God as his active force to get things done, when creating the earth it was very active , it had nothing to do with humans who had not been created yet.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If you noticed, KT, I said the holy spirit is our life-forces, that's an active force which gets things done by man.  Written is all authorities are established by god but the reborn are subject to the highest authority we call god.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree Elijah,  but Nothing can get done unless God allows that opportunity,  so man is on borrowed time. His days are not guaranteed. But God is eternal.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There is no such thing as "borrowed time," KT, everything is destined to happen the exact way it happens over and over again without beginning or ending.  Only the natural born have numbered days, the reborn are said to have "eternal life."

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Fatalism reborn under the auspice of Elijah. Interesting vacuum thinking. I see matters stated as fact here. At least there is no room for faith.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Elijah who told you this information. Because we are not Destin, like a sneeze that is unexpected it happens not Destin
      The weather is also proof , people can tell what might happen
      But the course can change , just like the weather.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       ED & KT, Ecc 1:9 indicates everything repeats itself the same exact way forever therefore faith (Heb 11:1) requires our finding evidence & substance to prove the written. Using things made (Rom 1:20) I've found the evidence and substance fait

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       In the book of Ecclesiastes,9:11Solomon further wrote: “I returned to see under the sun that the swift do not have the race, nor the mighty ones the battle,success, because time and unexpected events overtake them all.
       Simple and to the point .

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: If Jn 14:26 says "Father" (GOD) sent HS "in MY NAME" & 16:7 says "I" (JESUS) will send HS," is not JESUS GOD or did He LIE? If 1 would stop looking as father & son but ONE SPIRIT (Octopus w/MANY tentacles) w/UNLIMITED"GLORIES" 1 coul

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine you use scripture but in wrong application and say did God lie,No he does not but you do when you apply the wrong meaning to any subject.
       Example of the wine and bread , says eat and drink , but only his close disciples were present and given

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       k&t: When 1 denies HE SAID IT, 1 calls HIM a LIAR! It's WRITTEN just against what you've been "taught!" He said "I" Jn 16:7 & "His Father" Jn 14:26 would send HS. GOD does not LIE! Who lies? Not me! I "repeat" HIS WORD, not mine!

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       "Elijah you could be the father of a child, you could believe
       You are a God , but you error ,
       because1Co 15:50But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption
       You live her

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       KT, 1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."  That means you are in error.

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       King James Version
       Ro 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
       The bible says all have sinned,  if you have a father and a mother you were born from, they sinned, and that means you sin , genetically,  Jesus did not sin.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Prior to the new birth all sin, including Yeshua the christ, but after rebirth - his was with his natural birth - none sins according to the above scriptures.

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       We are sinners we can not buy ourself out of what Adam did , he marked us in his body. So we have his genetics.
       We needed a perfect replacement that could take Adams place , like adoption,  to buy from Adam.
       He did with his human flesh as a man,

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       KT, None buys themselves out of sin, we are reborn out of it like a tadpole don't buy itself into a frog, it must go through the new birth to become one. Rebirth is as metamorphosis for man-en-mass since the flood killed most us spiritually.

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   Sinbadsailormanposted 8 years ago

   To Understand the Holy Spirit Is to Understand the Fracture of Time And Space. The Holy Spirit is as The0NatureBoy has said the completeness of that which is to Come or the Comforter. Time and Space are collapsing back onto ITSELF! GOD has been separated form the whole of HIS creation as It can not all continue together in One Place, Time, or Dimension. For HIS Creation has been divided. The Holy Spirit Is GOD as GOD was in the beginning. Before It Became Necessary for GOD to Have the Begotten Son In Heaven and In Earth. As an Avatar or a likeness that would not obliterate the Falseness that Crept In. Which was Pride and Its refusal to repent back unto truth!.
   It is said the the Holy Spirit Lives within in you and most believe It resides within in Ones Heart.
   Keep In Mind everything Once Belonged to GOD all Souls belong to HIM And Still Do because they can not exist without HIM. GOD is the same But the World Around what HE has created has Changed. The Change was cause by the War in Heaven. That War was About Powers, Thrones, and Principalities. 1/3rd of Heaven was dispatched from the other 2/3rds This started a Need for a repair or a "Correction" Some Part of that 1/3rd refused Correction Or repentance. Time and Space were fractured. The Holy Spirit is simply the reconnecting of GOD to All of His Creation. When one is reconnected they may not feel a bit of difference in their physical Human bodies but they will receive Blessings and Gifts though they may go unnoticed still. Jesus Promised to send another in HIS stead this Is the HOLY Spirit. I call IT the Comforter today as HE Is not yet reunited with The Rest of Time and Space. The recurrence is slated to come about after the Millennium for all of us that remain after the Second Coming. Which is right before the Millennium and the Great White Throne of Judgement "The Mercy Seat" or the Seat of Mercy GOD's Throne the Highest Throne That IS. The Holy Spirit is of The Last of the Three Ages or the Three Periods of Time Before the Fall, the Present, and After the Correction. After the Correction Heaven Will Be Re-Born As It Once Was Perfected. GOD can Again Walk Amongst HIS creation with Causing It to be Obliterated, Removed, Or remodeled and restored. The War Caused a Need for the The Beginning of TIME In the Beginning was the Word GOD spoke and the Heavens were created. This Present Heaven and Earth shall Pass away will die and be reborn into a Forever Heaven and Earth That shall never Pass a way.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen! "Which was Pride and Its refusal to repent back unto truth!." (I Jn 2:16) 'The Holy Spirit is simply the reconnecting of GOD to All of His Creation" YES! "Reconciliation!" (II Cor 5:11-21) "After the Correction Heaven Will Be Re-Born As It Once

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NorineMt 28:18Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
      Re 17:14These will battle with the Lamb, but because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb( Jesus) will conquer them.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: Precisely!  If "ALL Power given" (given back to Self) where was GOD? No Power?  If He is Lord of lords & King of kings, where's GOD? No King or LORD? (Is 43:10-13)? LIED?

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NW, from below.  Everyone reborn man lives 1 Pet 3:15, it's the seeker who isn't reborn who follows Acts 8:31. I was taught according to Daniel 2:34, taught directly by spirit is what the cut out -- of religion -- without hand means.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: Jn the Bapt was "in the Spirit of Elijah," n Matt! Yes, coming but how can U come as such when u don't blv Jesus is Jesus but pen name, baptize diff, no Gal 1:6-9?
      
      What's His Name? ALL pen names in bible bcuz of ONE Spirit?
      
      Explain!

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NW,  My faith has shown me Jesus is a pseudonym for the Rod & Branch messiahs, not an actual name except in Spanish, I've found. There's no Jewish nor other history of it so how did it get in the scriptures as a Jew? Scripture indicates 2 christs

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: It's the "moral of the story!" Someone DIED for our sins! Bible could've said "Bobby," but the moral is, HE DIED & God KNOWS we worship "that One" no matter what Name!  But what Name do u worship for DYING for US?
      
      Elaborate on "2 Christs!"

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NW, Joh 3:19 say Yeshua discarnated to allow the world to sin & the reason for the Branch's coming to live like the saved as their leader (Mic 5:2), that's why their names,  I AM THAT I AM = living without judgments, not pseudonym, is so importan

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eli: U still "miss the point!" SomeOne DIED for me! Whether "man" calls  JESUS, Yeshua, or anything else, GOD Knows the heart, & knows I praise the One who DIED for me no matter what "man" calls Him!JESUS He is to me!"Their names?" Who's? How man

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       He died so the world could keep sinning, if that had not happened you would not be here, the world would have ended then and 2 millenniums have passed with the saved replenishing the earth for Rev 21s civilization. Get out of your tunnel vision.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Eli: I agree w/Rev 21! But to get there, See resp to u above. "Study" for Gal 1:6-9 is not there (2x's=Accursed) for nothing & 1 can't reach Rev 21 w/o! 1 must reach Heb 6:1-3 thru Gal 1:6-9 before Rev 21!

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   Rich kelleyposted 8 years ago

   The Scriptures say the Holy Spirit is:
   a teacher
   a helper
   a jogger of the memory
   one that brings gifts
   a leader
   the power behind God's will
   Causes birth
   Gives life
   is truth
   will guide
   attributes of God
   searches and knows all truth
   the thoughts of God
   a messenger
   
   God is Spirit and has chosen to give himself as spirit to those that are disciples of His Son Jesus.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      All action in every case here .his holy spirit of action gets what he need done.

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      Rich kelleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It is by His spirit that we can be doers of His word.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Rich: YES!!!  If we "do" (as in New year's Resolutions), "not permanent," but if HE does, "permanent" for we have no desire to sin anymore for HE (Holy Spirit) takes away sinful desire(s)!
      
      However, it's a "Growing" process (II Cor 3:18)!

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   Norine Williamsposted 8 years ago

   The question should have been "WHO" is the Holy Spirit" rather than "WHAT" Is The Holy Spirit?"  However, to answer your question first, The Holy Spirit's function ("What" He Is!) is found in John the 16th Chapter!  {Paraphrasing}  The disciples were sad when Jesus told them that ..."He was going His way to Him that sent Him" (v6), and (v7) "It's best I do, for if I go not, the Comforter (Holy Spirit) will not come; but if I go, "I" (Repeat "I!") WILL SEND HIM UNTO YOU."  (NOTE:  John 14:26 says "...whom "THE FATHER" (Repeat "The Father!") WILL SEND "IN MY NAME..." (JESUS)!  If "THE FATHER" will send in John 14:26 and "JESUS" WILL SEND in John 16:13, CAN'T ALL "SEE" JESUS IS GOD?"  Forget "teachings" Saints - "Study!")  (v12) "I have many things to tell you but you can't BEAR them now."  The Holy Spirit will "reveal" them when we "truly" seek revelation!  (v13) Nevertheless, when he, the "Spirit of Truth," (The function of the Holy Spirit which gives "revelation of His Word!") is come, he will "guide you into ALL truth... and he will show you things to come. (v14) He shall "glorify me;" for he shall receive of mine, and show it unto you."
   
   Now "WHO" is the Holy Spirit?"  JESUS is the Holy Spirit!  John 14:26 says "But the Comforter, who is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send "IN MY NAME" (JESUS), he will teach you all things..."  If I sent a letter "IN MY NAME" it would read from "Norine!"  Therefore, the Holy Spirit was sent "IN THE NAME OF JESUS" so JESUS is the Holy Spirit's NAME!           
   
   Who's been "taught" this?  Who'd rather believe "man" than "God?"  Study Saints!  It's Serious Business for Eternity (in hell) is a Loooooong Time!

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Considering my answer, Yoshua was a whole man functioning as a ghost after resurrecting, thus the holy ghost will be Elijah upon his resurrection which should take place in our day.  That also makes him the Quickening Spirit Second Adam.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hello Eli, Good to hear fm u again! Hope all is well!  Yes, GOD was "Manifested in the flesh" (I Tim 3:16), but "Elijah in our day" I need Scripture? He was the "second Adam" rectifying man, providing us a way back to GOD (reconciliation)!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Joh 14:26But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you,
      Holy spirit will be sent , he was standing next to them, proof
      he was not .

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      KT, What you asked for isn't clear in scripture but once you are reborn with testimony of conception, gestation, trivial, birth and growth you can hear what spirit say through your heart. There're more prophecies about Elijah than Yoshua the messiah.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Also Elijah what about as an example If a farmer did not plant a crop at the right time, should he blame the poor harvest on fate? You have to admit our timing and events do not have anything to do with destinations or fate.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      KT, if man ate their foods raw & put their body's waste in the earth there'd always be a harvest. It's western man's cleanness which causes us to need to plant crops, living in harmony with the self-rfeproducing environment eliminates that need.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Even so Elijah you said yourself if ? Which means not guaranteed,  so we can judge things will always be the same
      Not destin. You can eat some bad food that went bad , not destin, it just happen

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That "if" suggests man no longer live in the self-reproducting environment but has changed the eternal purpose of things in order to live every attribute known to man in our destined material world and man-en-mass will never do it is the cause.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You say and quote with the wrong meanings or application .
      That makes your teachings false.You Teach that Jesus and God the Father are the same person, why would he need to make himself a son , when he is high already.
      We exist and Jesus singular

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: "standing nxt to them" in the flesh! Hadn't transformed yet!  "IN MY NAME" means what it says!  Jn 16:7 said I will send, Jn 14:26 say Father will send! So where's conflict? "Teachings" For JESUS is GOD!

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine people send mail to you with the senders name on it
       Through the postal system, the postal delivers another message, that does not make the postal and the person who
       Wrote the letter the same. Two different persons envolved
       Not one. True.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: In flesh-not yet Spirit! If there's "ONE" Spirit (Ep 4:4-6), Father & Son r ONE!  Can't compare carnal to Spiritual, i.e. me to my daughter for we r not ONE (spirit)! Think "Spiritual" for we're talking GOD (SPIRIT) who manifests as He p

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine you are the one that will not accept The Father is one
       The son is one, we are one created as  individuals, why do you think he can not create one first Anglic son, Byington
       Heb 12:22God, heavenly Jerusalem, and tens of thousands of angels

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: If Father is 1+ The Son = 1, then 1+1=2 Gods!  Really? Prove w/WORD! Jesus said "Father" to relate to man! (GREATEST ALLEGORY N SCRIPTURE!) SPIRIT is the way we should worship (Jn 4:24) then u would "see!"
       
       What's ur email to send WORD?

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine the point is Michael is God's first Angelic Archangel means Highest based on first , based on prince.
       Being a prince means he is God's first born Angelic son.
       Being Michael who took on the mission to come to earth who took on the name Jesus

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T: Well, if that's the case, when disputing w/Satan why did Michael say "... the Lord rebuke thee" if He was the LORD? Remember "My Father & I r One" (Jn 10:30;17:21)? ONE SPIRIT! If we r "IN CHRIST," we r 1 w/Him also, as Michael but not J

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Elijah you live here on earth, if you were God you would have access to the heavenly realm, you can have a portion of God's spirit that he grants to understand his words, but on the
       Bases you are teachable and applying the wisdom written.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       KT, until I manifest as Mat 12:39-40 indicates this (AN EVIL & ADULTEROUS) generation will witness I must remain n this realm even until qualified as the first fruit of the gospel, Alpha, and last to be raptures, Omega, (Mat 20:1-16 & Rev 1:8

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Elijah the point is Jesus came from Jehovah directly
       We came from a human mother and human Father
       We sin genetically ,
       The scriptures you use apply to Jesus as God's seed.

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       KT, man-en-mass are human/woman since the flood caused us not develop our femininity or masculinity which destroyed our direct relationship with Yehuveh. The rebirth is designed to reconnect us as direct sons of spirit preventing us from sinning.

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Elijah no human of Adam and Eve could be valuble enough
       Because we all have the same curse of death. To give us continued life it would have to be aperson greater value then man, Jesus is God's first born Angelic son,  A Prince who could buy us all

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       KT, We were cursed ourselves into death when marrying Adam's ideology of good & evil at the flood. Yeshua was physical & spiritual born at the same time & told us to become spiritually born to return into the garden Revelation calls mille

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   manatita44posted 8 years ago

   Thanks Phoenix.
   
   You're entering the realm of the mystical life. I cannot give you this experience, and while God Souls can and sometimes do, they generally prefer you to have your own inner experience. Like lanterns, they light the way.
   
   The Holy Spirit can be called The Comforter or Grace or other names, for that matter. Grace is like sunshine, you need to leave the curtains open, so it can come in. It happens in Silence and for this, receptivity is necessary. That is why so many Faiths speak of service, gratitude, prayer, solitude, meditation ...
   
   Gratitude, inner purity and service expands the Heart (a spiritual centre in your being), and prepares you to receive the Higher Light or Forces sent from the DIvine.
   
   Grace is a Power, Love and a transformer and it is necessary to create a shift from the old patterns to a new or fuller life. You must be born again ..
   
   When the experience comes, you will feel different, full of love not only for yourself but for others also. You may experience changes in breathing patterns, immobility of movements, shed psychic tears, laughter and a very strong Love. You may rock, cry or weep ...
   
   I will stop here, except to say that it can vary from one individual to another. Some may see Lights or have visions of their Spiritual Directors. Suffice it to say, that the Holy Spirit is a tool used by the Divine Intelligence, to give us hope or faith; transform our lower nature to a much higher evolution, and is always accompanied by Love for God and all. Much Peace.
   
   Note: Let me add that I have sat in prayer and meditation for 33 years day after day relentlessly. So the preparatory work has to be done. But Grace comes of its own choosing and time, and does not rely on self-effort. Self-effort can only take you to the point where you realise that all is Grace, all is His doing. yet the effort is necessary. Much Love.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Who r "God Souls" who can give u Holy Spirit but "prefer you have to have your own inner experience?"  I don't thk there was "silence" in the Upper Room when Jesus (HS) came in as "a Mighty Rushing Wind" & they ALL "spake in tongues!" Quiet? R th

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My conception directed me to began a sincere Bible study lasting almost 3 years to my birth, then I became a nomad (Joh 3:8) objectively observing, participating and needed, reasoning with the outcomes and sharing my findings with anyone interested.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Man: A grt "Divine Game!" 
      ELI: I admire ur nomadship in which u study/seek w/o interruption! Acts 8:31 applies to 1 "Growing" also! Study:Jer 31:33, Heb 8:10, Promise Jn14:26;16:13,Came Acts 2:2; thereafter Acts 2:38=Baptism & Jesus is GOD!

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      manatita44posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, my sweet, Marlene, a great Divine Game and a mystical journey. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. The mind is some help, yes, put we need to look within. Deep Prayer and Silence are essential. Hugs.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Manita: Keep playing ur "game" if u thk acceptable to GOD! 
      
      Didnt answer "Who r God Souls? Maybe they call sell some of that action to help "the game?"

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      manatita44posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      True, Norine, as I knew if I told you, I would run into 'hot water' (smile) Let us compromise, however. The Christ is a God-soul, God-man, God-incarnate. Actually, it is a very serious Play or Game, and the Heart must be full of Love to play it well.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NW, Acts 8:31 is about a seeker, not anyone claiming new birth which require them to become nomads as Acts 1:4-8 demanded the decibels who were to remain until their new birth, his calling them was their conception, then go into all the world.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Man: If God=God Souls, u err. For there is ONE God, Jesus (Eph 4:4-6)! One cannot "play" "game" for "GOD sees heart" (I Sam 16:7)!
      
      Eli: Once "new birth," doesn't no ALL! Ask Peter! We "grow" (II Cor 3:18)!

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      The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NW, Mat 28 indicates there's father I AM THAT I AM, son I AM THAT I AM SAVES & almighty god is I AM THAT I AM  as the holy ghost, holy spirit is the understanding of all things, therefore you err.  Until you are spiritually born you will err.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Eli: Err in what? Jesus is God? Read Is 43:10-13; Eph 4:4-6. Did HE "lie?"  Do u know HS "reveals" what's essential to tell thru "man!" When told, 1 should do as Acts 17:11 & not arbitrarily call 1 err w/o Scripture! GROW!  Study!

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       The0NatureBoyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       You are telling me I err when Mat 28:19 reads "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost," thus you are saying the bible is a liar.

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