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The Marine and fear.

  1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago

    The Marine says that a belief based in fear is bad.

    Love has no fear.

    I believe in love.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The Marine or a Marine as there are quite a few on here, I do not like people trying to marginalize a group of very brave and dedicated people who sacrifice much to preserve a way of life. The offhand insults flowing through the forums this past hour have gotten out of hand and the next time someone has something biting to say about Marines I suggest you go take one's place on the frontline so he or she can come home and live out their days in peace. As for the person you refer to, let it go and move on all this is only making it worse and dragging out this farce.

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
        My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Insult?
        Not at all. I stated what he believes and has said is all.
        He thinks love has fear as he has just said rith in the topic.
        I respect Marines and was merely pointing out his belief.

      2. sooner than later profile image57
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        the comments were individual to one who loves his "individual mindset". His avatar has marine in it. We are all very proud of our marines and military forces, they were not collective in the comments made.

        that being said, maybe you could give him some orders that would make him stop. Are you a superior officer?

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol Make me stop?

          Does the truth hurt?

          1. sooner than later profile image57
            sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I was trying to protect you. "stop" insulting yourself and the image that marines stand for.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I am insulting your 1 system belief. It has nothing to do with the marines. Just something your childish mind came up with.

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          Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If you all want him to stop then stop replying.

    2. underhiswings profile image56
      underhiswingsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This is good. big_smile

    3. Lady_E profile image82
      Lady_Eposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I believe in Love but in the times we live in, Love has Fear.

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        so love is not reliable. And this happens because love is not perfect, as it's a creation of Man, as all other feelings are. Mind games

    4. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I take it you don't believe in christian god, right? cause love and hell don't go together too well, ya know smile

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
        My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I know that someone named King David wrote that if he makes his bed in hell God is there, or if he travels to the uttermost parts of the earth God is there or if he ascends to heaven God is there.


        I did read that once.

        1. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          That definitely is an example of clear answer lol

          1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
            My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            God can be or could be in hell too I would think.

            1. Misha profile image75
              Mishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Oh, so you mean you believe in christian god? Then stop talking about love, eternal damnation and unconditional love are not compatible. smile

        2. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Once or 100?

  2. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    lol


    Love does have fear.


    Why do people fear getting their heart broken by love?


    lol

    1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
      My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      People have fear, love does not.
      Love is not fear based.

    2. Jewels profile image81
      Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's not love itself that fears, it's the mind that fears not having love.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Is love not a creation of the mind?

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          Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Love is a gift from our Creator.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Our mind is our creator.

            1. Jewels profile image81
              Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Unfortunately it's the mind that got us into all this mess. Love is love, is love.  The mind decides what to do as a result of it.

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                lol never fails at getting into messes. I think it is backwards, the mind guides love unless you let love guide the mind.

                1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
                  My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Love is the guide to all things loving and love never fails.
                  Love is an action and it takes the action of love at all times and it is not subject to anything.
                  Love operates in love and nothing else.
                  Love cannot be conquered.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    The love of Shiyloh is never wrong neither right? Or is it. Is love absolute?

                  2. tantrum profile image60
                    tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    If love cannot be conquered, what's the point in feeling it?
                    If love never fails,why there are a lot of people crying for love?
                    Love operates in love and nothing else? and hatred? and lust?

        2. Jewels profile image81
          Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No, it's a state of being.  You can chose to love someone depending on what your mind wants you to do.  But love in itself is not fear, it is love.

          The fear is not about being loved, it's about not being loved.

  3. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    How rude, to start a post about another hubber like this. I'm outta here!

    1. sooner than later profile image57
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      boo hoo, he trolls in every thread.

      see ya.

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      Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ernest,
      Did I detect a hint of humor?

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Just a hint...

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          Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          We may have different views on some things , but you`re o.k. dude.

          1. earnestshub profile image88
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks! I can be a bit heavy on the zealots. smile

            1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
              My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              A zeal for the zealots? lollollol

              1. earnestshub profile image88
                earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Exactly! lol

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                  Rick Marlowposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Yes,zealots are a breed of their own.I wish they`d bunch together and go somewhere else because they end up hurting both sides of the issue.I may not agree with you but I will not try to cram my beliefs down your throat.We can agree to disagree respectfully.And yes, you do have a sharp tongue but also a sharp wit. But sometimes that`s an admirable character trait. I, on the other hand try to be less agressive until provoked.If the honey approach doesn`t work, then I go for the vinegar.

                  1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
                    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    There is a verse that says:
                    "to him that is pure You show Yourself pure and to him that is froward You show Yourself shrewd and froward"

  4. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago

    The Marine seems to want to find fault with any belief.

    Again, love has no fear and I believe in love.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No, not any belief. Grouped belief.

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
        My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Love is not one.

        People have fear, love has none.

  5. Uninvited Writer profile image80
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Is there a full moon or something, or is it my fever?

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    A Texanposted 7 years ago

    I don't have a dog in this fight and my only reason for posting is to say there is no reason to start a thread using someones name or avatar. His belief is his belief, and he is entitled to it just as you are. If I thought he was bringing disrespect to the Corps I would be the first to say something!

    Semer Fidelis

    1. sooner than later profile image57
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      He has no belief.

      He says that a "government" created God. Never mentions a government, never explains his theory and calls people ignorant every 10 seconds. Baits, trolls, attempts to humiliate. I think he is very deserving of a thread.

      I meen, what a unique individual.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        How can I have no belief when I believe the government created the bible?

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          A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Which government created it?

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Any grouped belief is government. I don't know which specific party or branch.

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              A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              The oldest known Bible is the Codex Sinaiticus it dates to 300-350 AD its thought to be one of 50 that Constantine commissioned. Anyway just wondering what Government you thought it was.

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                sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                RCC

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You lost me

              2. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I don't have a specific branch to name. I do know that government prefers to operate as one with followers and not individuals. What easier way to get people to follow than to have them believe as one.

                1. sooner than later profile image57
                  sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Have you ever seen a pie marine?

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                  A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I agree with that but I don't think the group there looking for is necessarily Christians the Churches dogma would be hard to get around.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Explain that please.

  7. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago

    Even the Marines are taught not to fear.
    So what are they suppose to say to that belief?

    1. manlypoetryman profile image68
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

       

      Hey Shiyloh...A Marine is taught not to fear because thats all he/she needs to know when they have to hit some beachhead somewhere with a whole bunch of nasties putting up a fight on said beachhead...Try it some time...and then come back and start this same discussion.

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
        My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Funny, I do not remember saying I had not.

        1. manlypoetryman profile image68
          manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Then why do you question what a Marine is taught in boot camp about being proficient in combat...how is this relevant to your discussion on emotions of fear and love?

          1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
            My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            He is saying that love has fear and yet real love cannot fear or it is not love.
            I brought up the fear factor in the training to show a point.
            If I say love has no fear, he says yes it does.
            He does not know real love then.

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            A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I have landed in some hostile places in this world and I was plenty scared, fear is something that can be overcome.

            1. manlypoetryman profile image68
              manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You Sir...are a mighty damn Marine! Thank you for your service!

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                A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I don't know about mighty but I gave it my best efforts and managed to get back home, I wish they all had!

                1. manlypoetryman profile image68
                  manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Me too...!

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I know you do and I mourn your loss, Semper Fidelis!

  8. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago

    The topic is fear.

    Love having none.

    1. manlypoetryman profile image68
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh...Ok...?

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
        My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Trying to stay on topic.

        1. manlypoetryman profile image68
          manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          It's your topic, my friend...you called it...Please, don't let me stop you...it's getting interesting now!

  9. quietnessandtrust profile image61
    quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago

    The Marines have a group belief, or how else would they get it done?

    Is group belief therefore always a bad thing?

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile and now what ? big_smile

    2. quietnessandtrust profile image61
      quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well?

    3. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, the marines could be considered government also. A group belief system.


      Yes, grouped belief is always a bad thing. There is no debate. Individuality does not exist. Free will does not exist.

      But, sometimes some must follow for sacrifice. One shouldn't be asked to sacrifice in belief for their entire lives.

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        A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Can't argue with you about what you believe nor do I care to. This all started with a question of which government created the bible and I have never received an answer. So carry on!

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          The government I am speaking of is any grouped belief.

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            A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            What group then? I'm just trying to understand.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              If the christians put the bible together, I believe they simply put it together for a group control of belief. I believe it has nothing to do with a divine creator.

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                A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I would agree that Christianity has been used for nefarious purposes by some. I would even agree that it has been used to control some, but I think that the bible was written by believers of what they had seen.

                1. marinealways24 profile image61
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I respect your conversation, belief, and the time you served. Thank You.

                  I don't know if I can say anything else to make my point unless you ask me. lol

                  The bible answers none of my questions of being from a divine creator. If we are all born different individuals, I don't think a divine creator would expect a 1 belief system.

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I respect your beliefs and thank you for your service. I have never said whether I believe or I don't believe and will always leave it that way, my only reason for posting here is to try to understand your views, I understand the other side of the issue because I was raised as a Christian and I believe there are levels of Christian belief. Not all Christians want to ram the word of God down your throat and make you accept it!

                2. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
                  My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Same goes for plenty of history books and they do not get questioned to death.

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                    A Texanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Thats very true but some revisionist history is changing what we were taught.

          2. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
            My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Well it is a good thing someone has one or nobody would sacrifice as you say.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I agree. Without followers, no one would sacrifice.

      2. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Was that not the answer you was expecting? lol

        1. quietnessandtrust profile image61
          quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You assume I did not see it ?
          Do you assume I sit here and wait for your answers too ?

          You cannot say "Yes, grouped belief is always a bad thing."

          And follow it with "But, sometimes some must follow for sacrifice."

          Making an absolute statement cannot be followed by the word "BUT....."
          That is a contradiction. smile

          By your statements.
          A) following is bad = following to sacrifice is bad

          Without sacrifice, we would have no country, so sacrifice is good to follow.
          You will learn to sacrifice for your son I hope.

          One thing is for sure, you must sacrifice in order to learn real love.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You are capable of learning. Some must sacrifice for the freedom for others to be individuals. They shouldn't have to sacrifice for an entire life as your bible request them to. Yes, without some to sacrifice/follow, there would be no one to do the individuals work.

            1. quietnessandtrust profile image61
              quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You did not correct your statement the "following is always bad"

              "Yes, grouped belief is always a bad thing.".....unless it is for a sacrifice for the better?

              Again, you NEVER admit when you make a false statement.

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I said that you are capable of learning. That was my admission. You can see my contradiction, but can't see the bibles? Grouped belief is bad unless it is sacrifice for one/ones you love. A belief should not be loved. A belief is not a person. Argue that enlightened one.

                1. quietnessandtrust profile image61
                  quietnessandtrustposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  A person can have a belief.

                  Or a way of life.

                  A person can believe in a person too...like when a child believes in their father and mother.

                  1. tantrum profile image60
                    tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    And one day they grow up, and realize their parents where no perfect beings at all.

                  2. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Yes, even when the parents teach the child to have a racist belief. The child should love the racist belief they were raised with, right?

                    Nothing is absolute.

  10. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago

    Semper Fidelis: Always faithful

    Love: Always faithful

    1. manlypoetryman profile image68
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Love never fails...ever!

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
        My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        10-4

  11. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago

    Yep

  12. yoshi97 profile image83
    yoshi97posted 7 years ago

    or my personal favorite ...

    A man alone on an island can rule over no one but himself ... smile

  13. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 7 years ago

    I enjoy a discussion where well thought out beliefs have a hearing. smile ... and I don't mean mine. smile

  14. Eaglekiwi profile image73
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Good answer Lady smile sensible even ,

    Perfect Love casts out fear , but we dont live in perfection.

    Tis a good target to strive for all the same smile

  15. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
    My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago

    One things is for sure. love has no fear.

  16. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    The word love does not equal love when it is repeated over and over! lol


    It makes love equal insanity!

  17. fred hensel profile image55
    fred henselposted 7 years ago

    Fear is natural and everyone experiences it. It helps keep us alive.
    The fear a combatant faces is also natural and it can drive you either of two ways, fight or flight. A MARine and his comrades in other services and first responders act in spite of their fear. TAhey channel their fear into positive action.
    As a forme combat Marine, I say to all my brothers and sisters in uniform, Semper Fi!

    1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image57
      My Friend Shiylohposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Semper Fi=Always faithful
      Love=Always faithful

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Calm down. Marines don't like over aggressive love from other men.

    2. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hello Fred, Thank you for your time and service. Much appreciated. Well said, great thoughts. Semper Fi.

  18. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I feel the love! I'm saved!

  19. Eaglekiwi profile image73
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    God is omnipresent and omniscient (sorry if spelled wrong) so yep guess hes all over , everywhere , all the time wink
    quite scientific I reckon.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is that absolute?

  20. LEFT HAND OF GOD profile image55
    LEFT HAND OF GODposted 7 years ago

    I have noticed that when I love, I take action.

    1. Jewels profile image81
      Jewelsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      But it's not love that acts, it's you doing something because of it.

      1. LEFT HAND OF GOD profile image55
        LEFT HAND OF GODposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        That is why I said   " I " take action.

  21. Eric Graudins profile image59
    Eric Graudinsposted 7 years ago

    Hi Jewels,
    Did you get the message I sent you a few days ago?

 
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