Divorce is a proof that true love does not exist. Agree or Disagree?
I disagree. Divorce does not mean that true love does not exist. However, a couple may not have gotten married for the right reason or reasons in the first place. Marriage is something that God ordained. God should be present from the beginning of the relationship and therefore, true love should be apparent. With God in the relationship and giving love to both man and woman, It should never go untrue.
" a couple may not have gotten married for the right reason or reasons in the first place." - An often overlooked point!
Human beings make mistakes in every area of their lives!
Choosing the "right mate/spouse" is never a slam dunk!
But do you agree that marriage is a lifetime commitment?
WORD: U are right!
Evane: Yes, lifetime & easier IF "in the LORD!"
Well, there are so many marriages that don't end up in divorce. Don't they prove that true love does exist? So, no.. Divorces don't prove that true love doesn't exist
I don't believe that divorce is proof that true love doesn't exist but I also don't believe that a long term marriage is proof that it does. The true love that exists when you are 20 and life is ahead of you is very different from the true love that exists when you're 40 and been battered and beaten by life's events. Because experiences have changed your outlook on life doesn't mean that the feelings you had for your partner at 20 were less true, it just means they've changed. If you're lucky you've had shared experiences that you were able to support each other through and arrive at the same place at 40 or 50 or 60.
"I also don't believe that a long term marriage is proof that it does." - Very true!
There are lots of couples who are "emotionally divorced"!
Many are just roommates with the same last name. Some only meet in the hallways when at home.
But do you think that the vow of marriage should be forever?
"ONLY" if "IN THE LORD" (Ezra 10:3)!
GOD did not want "HIS PEOPLE" marrying "strange women" then, as HE does not want those "IN THE LORD" marrying "Unbelievers" today. HE ("JESUS") is the same yesterday, today & forever" (Heb 13:8)!
An elderly couple told me once, "The hardest part of a relationship is staying together." She is 80 and her husband passed away 8 yrs. ago. We can learn from older people
I think that people are too quick to give up on each other. My parents had a lot of problems when I was a kid but they went to couples therapy and worked through it, and they now have a happy marriage. It's supposed to be "in good times and in bad, for better or worse, til death do us part." Many will say you have to work at it.
Sometimes people are too quick to get married!
People often get married for the "wrong reasons"!
An unplanned pregnancy, an age goal, friends were all married, being deployed by military, (ultimatum given), mate has money, feared being alone.
Divorce only proves people make mistakes in their "mate selection process". No one argues the fact that human beings make mistakes!
And yet some people tend to forget this also applies to choosing one's boyfriends/girlfriends, and spouses!
Too often people pursue relationships without taking the time to figure out who (they) are let alone what they need in a mate for life.
They allow "impulsive connections" and "happenstance" to dictate their relationship choices.
It's the equivalent of going shopping without a list!
The tope three causes of divorce in my opinion are:
1. Chose the "wrong mate" for oneself (incompatible issues)
2. Someone committed a "deal breaker" in the eyes of the other.
3. Over time they grew apart and stopped wanting the same things.
Marriage is more like having a garden than it is buying a sofa.
When most people shop for a sofa they find one they like, have it delivered, pick a spot for it and let it sit there for several years.
Marriage on the other hand requires nurturing throughout it's life to maintain. It's a "labor of love" effort by both people. There is no "neutral". You're either "growing together" or "growing apart."
Too many people believe once they're married they can "RELAX".
Just because you "get a job" doesn't mean you can "slack off".
A company is always receiving resumes and evaluating employees.
True love does exist! However there is no "unconditional love".
Anyone with (self-esteem) has some "boundaries" and "deal breakers". Otherwise they'd become a doormat!
Truth be told when it comes to love and relationships most of us (fail our way) to success. Very few people hit a homerun their first, second, or third time up at bat. If this were not true we'd all be married to our high school sweethearts!
A divorce is a public admission a (mistake) was made in one's mate selection. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. Ideally we learn from our mistakes and make better choices.
“Some people think that it’s holding on that makes one strong; sometimes it’s letting go.” — unknown
Every ending is a new beginning!
And so, do you think divorce should be prohibited to correct the mistake, so that people will take the time and due effort to find their partner in life forever?
Not at all. If anything there should be more requirements to (get married) such as mandatory pre-marital counseling along with expensive marriage licenses in the $5k or more range. Anything that causes contemplation prior may help. Free divorces
Disagree there is not such thing as Unconditional Love. Take a look a Greg Baer's on Youtube. Real Love Essentials Disc 1
Tom I stand by my statement: "Anyone with (self-esteem) has some "boundaries" and "deal breakers".
People who allow others to abuse them/mistreat them usually lack self-esteem. It's unhealthy.
Exceptions may be a parent's love or God's love
Disagree. My mother was divorced when she married my father. They were married for almost 50 years, until my father's death. I can count on one hand the number of nights they spent apart. They were very different people, but they loved each other completely, despite their differences.
My parents are the proof that true love exists, and has nothing to do with the existence of divorce.
To Evane.. second try? Yes, I guess she didn't agree with the "proof" you are asking about.
Ok. So why did her mother married her previous spouse, if that is so?
She married her first husband because of pressure to marry a nice, Catholic boy from a good family. He was all that, but he was also gay, which my mother didn't know until after the marriage. Marriage doesn't always mean true love!
I was a complete opposite (almost) of my long time companion. Even though he would really make me mad, he made me laugh, too. He liked hiking. Not me. I like growing flowers and stuff. He didn't. I didn't like his music and he didn't like mine
You again, my sweet Evane. You look so young!
On the gross level, there is human love, and the finer, subtle, there is Divine Love or Love Divine. Yet again on a Higher level, it is the same Love in the subtle realms which manifests in the mundane world, only in a much grosser form. Here its flow is impeded by insecurities, attachments, bargaining, superiority and inferiority...
I give you 15 cents and you give me a piece of candy. Divine Love is not like that. We cannot cage it, and for the piece of candy, it asks nothing in return. Nevertheless, the drunkard is consciously or unconsciously searching for Love, as is the family; the man with fast cars; the greedy and powerful as well as the divorced.
All acts are movements, (Divorced or not divorced) smaller or greater, which will ultimately point to the Divine, to Love. True Love? Well, some do say this. Love is either Divine with its Bliss, Happiness Serenity or human with its possession, attachments, strife and struggle, as well as being ephemeral by nature.
Yet this is part and parcel of the Higher plan. We are all God-souls, and will continue to seek our inner nature, until such time as we become free. Much Love.
I agree. There is no such thing as true love between men and women (or any mated pair). Romantic love is usually highly conditional. But there are different types of love. I do believe that the love between a parent and a child can be unconditional - i.e. true love (but not in the romantic sense).
I disgree. I am not sure whether or not there is a true love. But divorce is not a proof that true love does not exist. Divorced couple might be people who could not find their true love yet and might be able to find one someday.
Therefore, I strongly disgree that divorce is a proof that true love does not exist.
I disagree.In a marriage three people are marring( Man,women&God).it is God,that unites them.true love means sacrificing ourselves for the other. that is what our Jesus Christ had done(sacrificed himself for mankind).then there is no need to think of a divorce.
So when couples divorce, there is no God in their relationship?
Ok. if that is the case, then they married without God?
I believe that no two adults can love each other unconditionally. But having said that, I would ask you if you have any children. I have two children, my boy is 2 and my girl is11 and I am divorced. The reason I ask about the children is because even though I thought I was in love and also thought I was loved by my ex. Having kids changes things I love them so unconditionally it's pure bliss. No matter how mad you are,or mad they get to or at you, they love you entirely. Just watching them from babies, to walking, hearing their first words, taking their first steps,watching them learn things for the first time. Just changes you. I truly love my kids. I don't know if you have any kids,but if you do send me a text, or chat so I know if you feel the same for yours, that is if you have any.
No, Divorce is should not be proven for lost of LOVE. Love is a energy is formed from one source and then it only be converted not destroyed. Like that in between couples has lot of true love which only become the lost of concentration in other thing or lost of power only (convert the love in another way). So it doesn't exist.
I respectfully disagree with this statement.
True love does exist.
Marriage however, does not necessarily reflect true love.
What? So when then is marriage for you? You mean that some people marry without true love?
Even if someone gets a divorce, you still remember how you loved them It's the same thing if a boyfriend or husband dies and maybe you were even mad at them. You still love them but maybe differently
FALSE! Divorce is not proof that love does not exist, it's proof that GOD did not "join them together" (Mk 10:9) rather they did!
I Corinthians 7:39 says of the "second marriage" when one is widowed they can remarry but "...ONLY IN THE LORD!" How much more do you think the FIRST MARRIAGE should be?
MOST go out and "marry" another based on fleshly desires and FORGET the "THE LORD!" I can tell you ONLY what Scripture says!
I Corinthians 7:14 says "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: ELSE WERE YOUR CHILDREN UNCLEAN..." Now I ask, how does a "marriage" (in the sight of GOD) produce "unclean children?"
RELIGION would have one believe anytime a couple obtains a marriage license, they are "Married" in the sight of GOD! A LIE! Marriage is a Holy Institution established by GOD between "male and female" (Matthew 19:4)! Scripture says in Ephesians 2:1 "...who were DEAD in our trespasses and sins." How then, if DEAD, can we "Marry" in the sight of GOD? That is why we produce "unclean children:" because at least "one" party MUST be a "BELIEVER" (I Corinthians 7:14)!
Now, unfortunately, do you see why MOST are not "Married" in the Sight of GOD? Can you now see why the divorce rate is so high?
If a "Marriage" is to be "As Christ is to the Church" (Ephesians 5:31-32), how many do you think were "IN THE LORD" or at least one party was a BELIEVER? A "BELIEVER" by GOD'S definition, is not one who knows there is a GOD but one who follows HIS WORD in "chronological order" living under the New Covenant after the Day of Pentecost or AFTER THE CROSS!
How many are there?
The divorce rate will CONTINUE to increase UNLESS we become "IN THE LORD!"
Crazy huh? Not what RELIGION has taught and Satan is laughing all the way to the divorce courts!!!
I don't think a loving god would proclaim any children as "unclean" and if HE/She does, then I'm not agreeing with that. It is unrealistic to assume that a man or woman is going to sleep only with their spouse for 60 yrs.
No. I think divorce is proof that many people don't think properly before making a life decision. And that many adults never grew up properly.
But do you think they felt true love when they decided to get married?
I would think, they mistakenly thought they felt true love.
Yes, I think they felt true love. I even wrote love notes and put them in my husband's lunch bag.
Perhaps both parents have true love for the child/children, but not for love each other. Therefore they cannot decide who deserves the child/children.
Disagree. Divorce is proof people can mistake the hormonal rush of falling in love with the deeper committed relationships that are true love.
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