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   Onoti9posted 12 years ago

   God is my source and every good thing comes from him

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      Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't mean to be difficult, but would you be comfortable saying that to a starving child in Somalia?

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         h.a.borcichposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         And so it begins.
         
         Chances are the OP gives financially to a church that sends food to those in need. And the chances are also good that there a more than a few greedy and godless people waiting to intercept that food and let a child starve to death.

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Chances of the OP not being in touch with reality are far more likely.

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               manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Hmmm...and your touch with reality is one we should exemplify ?

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                  A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  If you wish.

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                     manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     No Thanks...but nice of you to offer. Why would I want to follow A Troubled Man's basis of reality? (Especially one that is obviously and always very noticeably "blue" on the Forums.)

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                        A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Then, I take it you're not a fan of reality?

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                           manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           I like reality as I see it...isn't that the same as your reality?

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                              A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              We all share the same reality.

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                                 manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 
                                 Yeee-aaaah...Wow, Man!

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                                 couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 We don't all share the same reality.

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                                    A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    We don't? Why?

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                                       couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Simplistic example:  water glass half full or half empty.  No matter which way one replies, the fact is that there is the same amount of water in the glass.  One might call this reality.  I call the mind reality so my perspective is my reality.  A fine line and maybe semantical, I know, but just my opinion.

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                                          A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          Reality would show it is either one depending on what half of the glass one is referring.
                                          
                                          Does your glass look any different than that?

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            manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Dang good answer...if you ask me...Well said!

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Source of what?
      
      Secondly, the rest of statement is false. Those who don't hold your belief still do good in this world....explanation for that?

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         couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         His source, his wellspring, his motivation, his hope, what makes him go on, the place where he derives his strength, life, will....you know, his source.  All good things come from his source meaning all the good things in his life come from his source.  So, in his reality, your statement is the false one.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes; every good comes from the Creator God; not from other gods as they don't exist.

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      thank you for sharing, and you did start a thread, now just find the needle I suppose

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         wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It would probably help.  This thread is only sew sew as threads go; too short yet.  It needs more length sewn on.

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            Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            And like you two had to protect this thread from sinking lower?

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               wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Ahhh.  You've found the needle and sewn on one more post.  Good work!
               
               Be good, Cagsil: Santa Claus is coming to town soon!

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                  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  

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      Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Oh for goodness sake. If God is the source of all good, then he is the source of all evil.
      
      If God created us being omnipotent and omniscient, none of us have free will and are carrying out the programming that he programmed us to do.
      
      There would be no difference between us, programmed by an all knowing creator, and a robot programmed by us. We would follow his guidance as slaves.
      
      Then the ridiculous idea that he might punish people who he forced to commit "sins" with eternal punishment truly is sadistic.

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   manlypoetrymanposted 12 years ago

   -bump- I like this thread...get ready for everything that comes with it.

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      Disturbiaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      yep

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      Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome to the jungle....

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   h.a.borcichposted 12 years ago

   I'd like to think you can explore your view with others who genuinely want to dialogue about it. What usually happens though is that those who couldn't care less hop the thread "demanding proof" and belittling any view of any faith. In any case, glad to see faith expressed. Merry Christmas

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      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I've been feeling the same way.  I just expressed in another forum how disappointed I've been about how HP forums are degenerating.  The intelligent writers just don't seem to participate anymore because of all the sarcasm and belittling.  Many have left HP and I'm on my way. This is a writers platform but the respectful exchange of ideas has gone.

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   Onoti9posted 12 years ago

   At creation God saw that everything He created. The ecosystem with the intricate food chain and web were all His design. Nothing thrives alone but is supported the system. And God is the grand architect hence He is the source and means to source of every good thing

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   I have no problem with your statement, but if God is the author of all you have to accept the good and the bad to be by His hand. Anything less is little faith. It's either all or nothing.

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      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, accepting good with bad is not the same as acknowledging where the good comes from.  The bad is of our own doing, IMO.  Neil Gaimen's book titled Good Omens, the Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch, is hysterical.  The demon character, Crowley, says that man has created more ways to harm himself and others than any devil ever could.

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   oceansnsunsetsposted 12 years ago

   The God in question, if I am not mistaken, along with the good and bad and the reasons for it in the world, are all explained in the Bible.  The bad, wasn't always so.
   
   People have been blaming the bad in the world ON God for a long time, even though it has been explained. 
   
   It is an underlying suggestion, that if there is evil in the world, then its God's fault, and if he doesn't stop it then that is his problem also.  All the while not listening to the origin of the problem, as given by said God. 
   
   It all sheds no light on fact that a person can thank God for the good in their own life. 
   
   A perfect world, or a world with evil and suffering in it.  What happened?... Some worldviews have answers, others have no answers at all.
   
   Many are content to just observe the evil choices of some humans and suffering and conclude that this is all there is, and its tough luck for the starving kids in Somalia, for example.  All explained by materialism, or naturalism.  That is fine too, and I can accept others choose that.

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   Onoti9posted 12 years ago

   The earth is built on a foundation, and it has pillars. One of the pillars of the earth is wealth. The earth is so rich that we dont have poor places but poor people who are blind to access the wealth embedden it earth design. Starvation in somali is not an excuse. The food chain that will support Somali is there right from creation

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      Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The reason you have access to this food chain is because someone else did the farming for you, someone did the packaging and distribution, someone did the supermarket shelf stacking, and you have a job to pay for it. All human interventions to make sure you have food. So if God meets your needs, he does so indirectly by using humans to generate a capitalist market economy.
      
      Yes the Earth is rich but the poor are not so blind as to prevent them from accessing it; they are prevented from accessing wealth by the same capitalist market economy that feeds you.

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         Onoti9posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The Capitalist were not born with silver spoon. Facebook&microsoft came on board recently. When I mean blind, I mean digging dip to draw from deposit God in dawned in every man to draw from it. Many are poor because, they have no idea, no management, and in fact no plan. Everyman is destined to follow are path. Those who discover and pursue their purpose of creation get to the top regardless their discipline

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