I need a writer
Not sure where such a request should go, but I think this is the best place to post it. Hope it does not violate HP policies - if it does, just delete it, please
English is not my native language, but I work for American audience - so, I need a writer. I need a person for whom American is a native language.
I need articles of 800 words on average on the topics I give you. I may or may not give you ideas. If I do, I expect you at least not to contradict to my idea. I give you keywords that have to be included, too. And I expect all of them to be included. I usually don't have strict deadlines, but if I do, I expect you to have the article finished by deadline.
Since I am posting this request here, I expect people who have quality hubs to contact me. Please don't bother if you don't have hubs.
I don't need hundreds of articles, we are talking probably a handful per month or so. Don't expect to make a living out of it I would like to set initial price at 1 cent per word, and this is negotiable after we start working together. In other words, if I like what you are doing, I may pay you more.
You give up all your rights to those article written for me. I can publish them anywhere I want under any name I want and make to them any changes I want. You never publicly or privately claim the authorship on those articles.
Those interested, please contact me through my profile.
Thank you, MishaMisha, if you don't get a native American, you may always fall back on me.
Thanks Kenny, if I don't get someone from here, I'll get back to you
Though I don't see anything wrong with your English. Maybe all you need is an editor, not writer.
Kenny, my "international" English is fine in a sense that I can more or less get my message across on forums. In order to retain person's attention, though, I have to speak their language... If I come to Russian site and see semi-literate copy, I just move on. I don't want my American readers to do the same
And did you know I am lazy? I would rather have somebody writing for me
Hi my sweetheart
Right now I have a couple of ideas - which translates into a couple of articles. And ideas come regularly. I think we are talking several articles per month for indefinite duration - until we call it a divorce, if everI'm heading to bed and already shut down my mail. I will read it tomorrow, OK? Sweet dreams
Guys,
Thanks, I got an overwhelming response I don't think I need more writers - may be next time Marisa,
It's a free market - I don't force anybody. And people find this price fair... Probably we have bigger supply of writers than demand for them. At least on HubpagesNo sweat Marisa, I did not take it personally at all
If I really sounded like that, it should be my ESL then...
Well, times are changing, and now 1 cent a word seems to be a market reference point. You can actually have an article written for half of that - but this would be done by some ESL person like me and would hardly be readableSadly Marisa, in Canada $16/hour is a good wage. I really miss the financial advantages of living in Oz
At least you feel valued by employers there who pay a decent salary. Here everyone wants to pay nothing and expect everything. That's why I hope to be working strictly for myself soon.
Misha - for once I disagree with you.
There are certainly people offering jobs for 1 cent a word or less ( as little as 10 cents for 400 words), but as to that being the industry rate - not true. I get as much as 20 cents a word depending on the subject. But these jobs tend not to pay per word.
And I can, if anyone wants it - point them at a job that pays $12 per 400 words - it's SEO writing and I hate doing it.
As far as I am concerned, 1 cent a word is bare minimum and the only people likely to be interested are newbiesLOL absolutely disagree
On all accounts. We are on the different side of a fence with you here - you are searching to earn more, I am searching to pay less
You personally do not just write - you do a bunch of other things on top of writing - and that is why they don't pay you by word.
Not sure what exactly you mean by SEO writing - if keyword stuffing, than it is obsolete long ago, and only - umm - people not knowing SEO will pay you that price for this.
There are professionals who write for 1 cent a word or even less. Sometimes it is accompanied by relatively low monthly fee (like $10-20), sometimes not... I am not going to disclose all my files, but here is one example: http://www.need-an-article.com/ I did not try it myself yet, but I saw a bunch of good reviews of them.
When we start talking about Hubpages - where I placed this request - people here are all or almost all amature writers, however... In other words - newbies to the world of professional writing... And what vast majority of them make here is way less than 1 cent a word...I would be interested in the SEO job. I find things like that a challenge. Do they usually require a lot of writing?
I haven't written SEO before but I understand the whole concept.
Thanks
Now I want to cry, Mark. I totally wanted to do it for that price because Misha is my inter-buddy.I know
Like I said - there are any number of people offering jobs that pay this low. Even lower. And there are any number of people accepting these sort of rates. When I first started, I was tempted
By SEO writing - I mean a company that is looking for articles to submit to directories that need a particular keyword in a particular density in the article, which they then add their clients links to and submit it to a directory. They pay $12 for 400 words - 3 cents a word I tried it - but I personally hated the constriction of doing that. So I stopped.
And yes, we are looking at this from a completely different perspective. I am looking at it from the perspective of making a living writing. You are looking at it from the perspective of making as much money as possible by paying as little as possible for good quality, unique content.
Having said that, I have just employed 2 writers to work for me and I refuse to pay them this little.
It's not often we disagree, but on this......We'll just have to agree to disagree then
Fine with me
I certainly don't want to get into a 200 post argument with you - I might lose
Thanks, I will.
LOL what's the need to ressurect ancient threads?
There are plenty of places to find a writer, including digital point forum. However, I wanted a writer from Hubpages When you spend some time here, you'll understand why.
And they are clearly not aware of Misha's skills in other directions.
smallbizpro- (Off-putting name by the way - makes you sound like just another spammer) - If I want keyword research advice - Misha and Eric Graudins are who I will ask.I'm not sure how "smallbizpro" would make me sound like another spammer - bit of a wide-reaching statement there, Mark. Besides, if you take the time to check out my Hubs, you may see why I chose the nickname... ;-)
With regards to wanting keyword research advice and getting it from Misha - makes me wonder if Misha is doing the research, or paying pennies to other people (as he's offering here) to come up with it for him.
Anyone that says they won't pay more than $0.01 doesn't realize the value of keyword research (IMO) or else he wouldn't pay such low fees. Nor would he suggest that SEO writing is obsolete.
Frankly, if I were to need keyword research (which fortunately I don't - myself and my business partners are fine in this area, as our client results show) the last place I would look is to someone who values professional and skilled work so poorly.
Eric Graudin, on the other hand, I would agree is a good reference point.
lol
I am always suspicious of people with names like smallbizpro or googleadsensemaster or whatever. I find they rarely live up to their chosen name. That is not to say you don't live up to yours, but many of them do not. My personal choice is to almost always avoid these people. Like I said, to me, it makes you sound like a spammer. But that is just my personal opinion. No offense intended.
I have looked at your hubs and also at the site you claim that 4 people are making $100,000 a year each from - Which I do find hard to believe of an unranked site that has been operating for 3 months.
I have asked and taken Misha's advice on keyword research and SEO and have found it to be useful, good quality advice. The same with Eric. I am not much good at that stuff myself - I am a writer rather than an internet marketer. The question of how much writers are worth paying is an area he and I disagree on, but as you resurrected this long-dead thread and I know he is AWOL for a while, I spoke up for himWell, as I said, it is an area he and I disagree on. I know you can make a good income writing - that is what I do for a living. As to magazines paying $1.00 a word, sure some of them do, but those gigs are pretty hard to come by, and usually you need a good established reputation or be prepared to submit work for approval - which doesn't always result in a sale, and can bring the average per-word rate down. And yes, I have written offline as well. I usually charge €.0.35 a word, and will only submit if I am guaranteed publication.
But, I see the demise of the paper printed publications in the stars and concentrate on on-line venues. They are busy shooting themselves in the foot as we speak. Every magazine and newspaper I see is filling their articles with things about websites and it is rare to see anything without a website address attached to it.
I must have mis-read your reference. Sorry, the "All of us are looking at 6-figure incomes," sounded as though you were making $400K from that site alone.
It is nice to see someone sticking up for higher rates for writers. It took me some time before I reached the point where I was making a comfortable living, and the first six months were not good
I would still lose the smallbizpro handle thoughYes, I agree that the magazines are pretty hard to get into (especially the $1.00 per word ones). It does take time - I often recommend that people start with local newspapers, magazines, etc, to build a decent portfolio to show the editors of these magazines. If you're an expert in your field that also helps, and sometimes this expertise can come from the strangest places. Say you're a mother who writes - why not submit queries to Parenting magazine, or Mum and Toddler? You know your subject anyways
Lol, I can see why it'd be hard to believe that a site could make its writers $400k after just three months - that WOULD be nice, haha! But it's doing pretty well for such a new company and we're optimistic about the future.
Good to hear that you're getting tha pay you deserve - I RSS'd your blog and I've found it to be quite an interesting read!
And I'll have a think about the "smallbizpro" tag, hehe...
Well, I just have a little fun on my personal blog. You are not allowed to use the "F" word or show photos of female nipples at hubpages, (male nipples are OK) so I feel a bit constricted sometimes
I have written about making money blogging and writing there though.
My main blog is this luxury real estate blog and I also write a property investment blog and a cubicle humor blog.
Won't even talk about the failed ones. Although - if you are in the market for a football blog, I have one for sale
We could hold a referendum about the name - seems that's how we do things in England at the moment- shreekrishnaposted 14 years ago
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Im not an advocate of writing for pennies, I frequently write about many ways how a writer can make good return for their work, without any technical or SEO expertise.
Regardless of what Google claims or what your knowledge is of - search engines work on certain parameters, SEO will always exist to find and react to those parameters.
Keyword Research is never going anywhere - thats obtuse - ad revenue makes the net go round and as long as google has a revenue model that includes keyword bidding - keyword research will be there.
Quality controls may increase, but quality is a very subjective term and its not something a robot will ever understand.
Your an outlier not a common experience , Your work is well aged within a niche topic and perhaps you are even an authority within your field. Your a pioneer.
You really think little Sally Sallyson can go write 3 million words on Unix and technological applications and see even a 10th of your returns - in the present age of the Internet?
Think what you like - I would have to disagree.
oh..and I couldnt crank out 4000 words a day - i wish i could
i really do!Ask Mark Knowles, we had pretty much the same perpetual debate on the topic of SEO a couple of years ago. Since then he saw the light and never looked back, in fact as far as I know he recently started his very own SEO company
Eventually you will get an enlightenment Pcunix, don't worry
To everybody who contacted me about the job:
Thank you very much - but I am very sorry, I don't need a writer any more. This thread was opened TWO years ago.But - the operative words here are "going to change."
Myself - I took what I learned from Misha to heart and combine the two approaches - I create the best content I can, and then promote the crap out of it.
So - if all that promotional stuff stops working - I will be happy - because my content is usually the best on a given subject (most of the time) so I will just save myself a bunch of money until the next way of cheating the system comes around. Then I will do that instead.
If your content is good - you have nothing to worry about - other than the fact that you have not been getting the traffic you deserve for the last ten years and maybe you do not have the money to promote it?
Either way - I am happy, and will be loving it when google finally get the best content to the top of the pile, because I have spent years creating good content that does not get viewed. Loving it.Not if she needs the money today she is not.
You missed what I said. It doesn't matter how much potential the writing has if she needs the money to feed her children today.
Not selling it and letting her kids go hungry would be the foolish thing to do.
The other point was that many people do not have the skills to identify a "tightly focused niche" that will provide income. Trust me - there are plenty of tightly focused niches that make no money at all - even the $5 you are talking about.
I do sell my work - and would not consider working that cheaply. But - I am lucky/skillful/educated/whatever enough not to need to.
And I have several full time employees who much prefer the lower instant, guaranteed income rather than the bigger potential income.
A bird in the hand...............
Misha, "The International Man of Mystery". Yeah I would put my money on him when it comes to earning from places like HP.
hehe - One of my selling points a while back was that I could do the work at less than half of the price of a British or American writer - I am now moving towards matching their rates as my client list grows. Not every writer has the experience or the knowledge to market and sell their own work - these things take a lot of time to pick up. Writing, a little graphic and website design, formatting, editing, marketing, style guides - freelance writing is a very steep learning curve.
Article writing is a very competitive market - you need to have a good portfolio and a list of satisfied clients before you break away from the pennies a word mentality. It isn't as easy as just going out there and 'selling your work' - that requires money and time to invest in marketing, self-promotion, learning new skills, and gaining experience.
If the fictional writer is still charging that price in a year then I agree; she is foolish. Otherwise, she is serving an apprenticeship and, if she is talented and hungry enough, her rate will soar. There will always be employers seeking cheap writers - it is up to the writer to break out of that mentality. Again, that is no different than becoming a plumber or an accountant - you start at the bottom and work your way up.
I agree with you that the market is starting to self correct - however, if a writer is not talented enough or adaptable enough, they will be condemned to a life of working for peanuts. It is better to find another profession - the system filters out the poor quality writers.
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