It is so frustrating. I have asked this person to leave and he contiues to bully. How do I stop it???
I don't understand why someone would even get on a thread they aren't interested in and then continue to bully everyone who has written a comment??? Why???
Is it true bullying, or just someone being opinionated? I think you should provide the link too.
Then we will have something to discuss.
Yes it is " Who Believes in Angels", look for RAD MAN's comments
"I think that is what I said, but what will you or what have you done to your own children. Because if you don't know for certain that angels exist and you tell them that they do, then you are indeed lying."
Is this the problem?
no Rad Man is the problem as he has already stated his opinion that he doesn't believe in angels so be it right? but no he just goes on and on about totaly non related subject matter... and if he's not intrested why does he continue to comment??? he's just being a jerk and making fun of all the people that do believe. It's his right to not believe but it's not right to put down those that do .
If you read the hubpages Terms of Service, it will become clear to you that Red Man is noway violating the rules which were laid down by hubpages.
I've learned the hard way not to make a comment in order to 'egg' them on. Some people, unfortuantely, like this type of attention, it's what makes them tick. I know it's hard to ignore as we all have our own beliefs but trust me, ignore his comments.
Moneyfairy, what you have to realize is that HubPages forums are a place to debate. That means, they are a place where all members have the right to - and are encouraged to - debate the pro's and con's of every opinion. That means, if you express a belief in something, you should expect someone to refute it, and you must be prepared to argue your case - probably at length.
If you want to discuss a belief or philosophy with other like-minded people, without the risk of non-believers butting in, then HubPages is not the place you want to be. Google for forums on sites devoted to those subjects, which attract people who share your views, and you'll be much happier.
So, it's your first day on the Internet... welcome.
Why don't you just delete his comments if you don't like them? Then you don't have to respond and nobody else gets "insulted".
An argument with writing, legal presentations, debate, discussion, etc is a format. To have a degree of decorum within that setting is nice, yet not always possible.
These three components are imperative with writing an argument. First, these three compents are to be present, hopefully with equality of emphasis - Ethical Appeal, Logical appeal, and Emotional appeal. The next component of greatest emphasis is 'Reasoning.' The last is compare / contrast. Providing the opponents and proponents view or evidence in an effort of examination provides for fairness on the part of the argument of either side.
When the opponent feeds on emotional appeal the doors to ethical and logical open for the proponent. Again, if decorum appears to be lost as emotional appeal of the opponent gains momentum, or the proponent begins to reason based on the tactic of emotion something innate to human behavior is entered upon - the fight or flight response.
By protesting his tactic that is being exercised. Taking it into another thread the flight side of response is the tactic entered. Yet, the appeal made is emotional and not of the opened doors of logic and ethical. Reasoning is weakened as emotional is fueled. The plea is ethical, yet the tactic is emotional.
Regarding angels, angels are defined historically as messengers, not heroic entities. Angels provide a message. What is the message is what needs to be examined. Remember the old adage, 'don't slay the messenger,'
Consider with the argument of angels the term or the reasoning that numinous presents to the learner a probability of correctness, yet it offers dissonance as well, or the inability or capacity to accept a revealed truth, presented by an angel.
In other words, there is evil, and there is good, yet there is 'One' creator,' Bare bones basics to logic says that demons are angels. Their form did not change when thrust to earth, only their format changed and their message.
If one was to take it to extremes remember with Angelogy that Satin is the angel in charge of music i heaven. Do we stop listening to music because of that 'fact.' Or, through reasoning do we realize passing through those feelings associated with dissonance that not all music is evil, since it is of an angel to begin with. It is only the format of the angel that is different. Format can change within angelology, yet form can not.
Insert disclaimer here
Other than ignoring the comments or growing a thicker skin, you're only other alternative is to create your own discussion forums and your own rules. Maybe just have one rule, everyone who joins the forums must agree with you.
You report the post. If it isn't deleted, it isn't what HP considers bullying.
I don't see bullying trolls on that thread. Religious and political threads are always going to have opposing views. You can't really tell someone to leave unless there are personal attacks, which can be reported.
You can always ignore the posts if they are not breaching forum rules.
Read Rad Man's comments and you'll see what I mean. Yes I think I will ignore him from this point forward because he is not offering anything to the subject matter at hand and is acting like a child.
Yes, I did read the thread before initially responding. I don't see Radman's posts as trollish bullying. He clearly has a different viewpoint than you wanted to find on the thread. When opening a thread (especially in the religious forum) with a question, you better be ready for opposing viewpoints because you will get them. If you don't want to engage those posters, that's your choice, but keep in mind you opened a thread in a public forum of which anyone can post. I think it helps us think and reason and/or question/reinforce our own thoughts and beliefs when we have differing opinions. But unfortunately, often in a forum setting, instead of discussing the topic, emotional responses are taken personally.
It's easy to get rid of the bullies...don't respond to them and they will eventually give up. Same with people who follow you from thread to thread to counter everything you say It's the Internet, it happens.
This particular person won't give up. He has 'bullied' me before as well and by responding to him in an angry and flippant way I got banned for 3 days. I've learned that you have just got to ignore him. People like this are cyber bullies as they love the attention they are getting just for the sake of an argument. Personally, if you aren't writting a hub I don't believe you should be on here. Just sayin......
If you think they are breaching HubPages forum rules then simply press the report button and flag it - the staff will then take action.
I didn't see any bullying either. What I saw was a very opinionated man, and a fairy who can't take it.
He has every right according to HubPages forum rules to give his opinion as much as he wants to, repeatedly if he feels like it. You can't control other people's differing opinions, no matter how much you try.
Sorry, but you are wrong.
And by the way, I conpletely disagree with Rad Man on nearly everything. But I respect his right to have and express his own opinion.
The point is that he was being disrespectful to others beliefs contiuously and it was very mean spirited. An opinion is one thing but to put someone down and call thier parents liars for believing something is just not right. Also saying that anyone who believes is just gullable and can he sell them something??? That's just not called for. Just because he doesn't believe something doesn't mean that it is not true for someone else. so to belittle someone for their beliefs is emotional bullying to me anyway. Also if he is not even interested why does he continue on and on about what he doesn't believe? I only asked about who believes not who does not.
I agree with you that he was being disrepectful to other people. However, that is not against the rules of the forum. It is not a rule that you have to be nice to other people. You just can't personally attack people and call them names.
You need to learn that you can't control other people, and make them nice. That is a free will issue.
What you're really dealing with here is YOUR emotional responses to other people. That's what you need to think about. Not about how to change other people. You can't.
He has the RIGHT to act in an unpleasant manner.
The issue here is YOU, not Rad Man.
The life of the internet is quite simple, Don't expect anyone to do or be like you. While I agree with RadMan on many things he posts I do not agree with how he gets his point across. With that being said if you don't like heated debates then don't post any thread, question, or hub that can be even close to religion or politics. It's just the way of the internet.
The forums are open to everyone, including threads started by you. You can't ask people to leave as if it were your house or something.
Ignore them... Do not respond to anything they say. Do not acknowledge it. They will go away.
I want to thank all of you for sharing your opinions. Some were very helpful indeed.
This saying from Gandhi says it all;
"When I despair I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end they always fall-think of it Always."
I'm done with this thread so I bid you thanks for all the information and good day to you all.
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