Important Change to Adsense

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   Marisa Wrightposted 11 years ago

   For those of you thinking of starting your own blog, here's a vitally important piece of information from Adsense:
   
   http://adsense.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/ … -host.html
   
   The way I read it is:
   
   If you used an account on Blogger or a rev-sharing site (like HubPages, Weebly, Wizzley) to get approved by Adsense, you can use your Adsense account on any revenue-sharing site. 
   
   However, if you want to start your own blog with its own domain name, you have to apply to Google for permission to use Adsense on your new blog.

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      Cardisaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's not much different from before except for the extra approval process. They just want to make sure that people using Adsense are placing the ads on sites with quality content and not just landing pages or doorways...I am surprised that they used HP as an example. Does that mean they favor the site?

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         Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         No, Google definitely does not favour HubPages!  I'm guessing they used that example because it's the highest-profile revenue-sharing site. 
         
         It may be only a small change but it has a huge impact. In the past, once you had your Adsense account you could use it everywhere.  You only needed to add the site to Adsense as a channel, and then only if you wanted to track the revenue separately.   
         
         Now if you want to use your Adsense on your own site, you must ask permission first.  If you use it without permission, you're breaking Adsense TOS - and I assume that means they could apply the usual penalty, which would mean losing your Adsense account.

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            Cardisaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            "Please note that publishers who were approved for AdSense accounts before today won't be affected by these changes."
            
            That means we, as in those of us who are already using Adsense on our sites wont need approval, just those without their own domain.

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   Dame Scribeposted 11 years ago

   Wow, that's a new twist I did hear on a forum somewhere, please don't ask that 'G' didn't like certain domains. I guess it's a form of 'quality' control which is good I guess. Got to stay on top of that SPAM

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      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I can see why they're doing it.
      
      While someone is writing on a rev-sharing site, there are quality controls in place to prevent spam.   When that person starts their own blog, there are no controls - so Google needs to check the new site.

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         Cardisaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I totally agree with their changes, it's better for people with quality content to share. I think it's great. Hubbers need not worry about this. All they have to do is create a blog or HP account. If they want their own domain they can do that and wait until they are established on the web before applying for Adsense.

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            LetitiaFTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I hope it helps curb the onslaught of sites that specialize in stealing our content!

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   IzzyMposted 11 years ago

   The way I am reading this, Google Adsense is still OK on sites you already have, but if you start new ones you will need to reapply to Google to allow advertising.
   
   Maybe not a bad idea?
   
   As it stands now, you can write ( or pay someone to write) content for your site to get Adsense approval. Then, you can start up a new site, filling it with plagiarised/spun content and still earn.
   
   Google are basically saying that you can't do that now. Sounds good to me.
   
   On the other hand, why were Hubpages specifically mentioned in that blog post?

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      Cardisaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe they like Hubages?!?!?!

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         Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         From what I recall during the Great Panda Disaster of 2011, Google regards HubPages as a content farm.

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   Nurseyposted 11 years ago

   Thank you so much for this valuable information. I read your profile and see you're a dancer like me. So nice to have met you here.

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   WriteAngledposted 11 years ago

   This measure is not retrospective. It only applies to people starting new accounts. Those who already have accounts are free to use their Adsense ID wherever they wish.
   
   To think that when I started on HP in 2009, I was able to get an Adsense account in less than 24 hours by uploading onto Docstoc one pdf file of scrappy notes for a talk I gave long ago while still a wage slave and still happened to have on my computer! I chose that route because it seemed the easiest, and it truly was.
   
   Those were the days!

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   Huntgoddessposted 11 years ago

   How can I tell if I have Google AdSense or not?

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      IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You are kidding??
      
      You have been here for 2 years and do not know whether or not you have a Google Adsense account??

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      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      If you don't have Adsense, what are you doing here?

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      Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You would have applied for an account

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         IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Now I understand what Derek Gulbranson was on about .
         
         It was him, wasn't it, who said something to the effect that the vast majority of HP users are not internet savvy and just want to write?
         
         Some of those wannabe writers can't even write. He didn't say that, I did.
         
         That is not to say they won't find an audience of course. And before anyone jumps down my throat, I haven't even looked at Huntgoddess's hubs., so this isn't a rant at her.
         
         I love writing. I hate that I have now to 'hide' my writing in niche subdomains and that hardly anyone knows it is me.
         
         I hate that Google hates this site, or that they are guilty of giving us all a rough ride.
         
         Even more, I hate the front page results Google send us. I can still find internet gems, but I have to search through to page 2 or 3.

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            WriteAngledposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            When I was studying for my postgraduate qualification in library and information studies in 1986, a brilliant lecturer used to keep emphasizing to us that it was our duty, when conducting a search for someone, to sift through at least the first 1000 or so search results in order to pick out the best results if there was no way to adjust the search strategy so as to narrow down the results obtained.
            
            He was talking about various bibliographical databases. However, I have never forgotten the principle. If I am looking for information  on the Internet about something that is important to me, I will routinely work my way through 100 screens or more to sift out what is useful. These days, when ghastly sites such as Wikipedia. Yahoo Answers, commercial shop fronts and advertisements dominate search results, it is even more important to dig deep into search results to find information of any real value.

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      LetitiaFTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      To check, click on your name at the top of the screen, then "Account", then "Earnings". Look at the box "External Affiliate Settings." If there is an "Affiliate Code" number in the column next to "google adsense," then you already have an account.
      
      You must have a Google Adsense account to earn any money on HubPages other than from Amazon, so if you have earned anything (whether or not you've hit the payout threshold), you must have already applied and been accepted for an Adsense account. If not, you can click "configure" to apply. You can find out more in the pages for beginning hubbers. Good luck.

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   rebekahELLEposted 11 years ago

   Those were the days when the greed of Google blinded their eyes to the monster they had created.

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      WriteAngledposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I considered there was little point to start constructing things until I knew I could get a return, however miniscule, on the work invested! After all, a site that is loaded with advertisements is not going to get any other type of kudos.

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         Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Me too, I didn't take it seriously and was very cynical about proposed returns. That attitude is clearly evident in the hubs I've written  (which I haven't moved) on my main account.
         
         Google appears to want experts, but how they define an expert is a mystery to me. Is an expert someone who has studied said subject at a higher level? And if so, how should that expert demonstrate their knowledge to searchers? Should their article be written in an objective, academic way? Or not? If the demographic of HP is women in their twenties with children but without a college education, what kind of expertise are they looking for, and how best can an author write for them???
         
         How can one demonstrate authority about toys, or breast pumps, or multi coloured  nail embellishments? That's me stumped!

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            WriteAngledposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Google's sole definition of expertise is someone who gets views. Thus, someone who knows how to adjust material so as to get views, or knows how to pay for views without being caught, is an expert in Google's eyes.
            
            Someone else may have high-level qualifications and decades of professional experience, however, if this person does not know how to sell their material on the Net, their expertise will never be recognised by Google.
            
            As a result, search results today reward pre-digested pap on gutter press topics, which suits the ESN morons, who form the majority of the Internet audience. Thoughtful writing on intellectually challenging questions does not get a look in.

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               Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Writeangled, your response has actually made me feel better.

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            LetitiaFTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I read an insightful hub by Thephoenixlives a few days ago that helped me rethink how I write hubs. It's entitled "The Importance Of Working Within A Niche With Your Hub Account." It explains how google determines that you are an expert, and suggests ways to demonstrate to Google that you are. Fortunately, it appears that being an expert in one area doesn't preclude (in Google's eyes) being an expert in other areas, as long as each area is adequately covered. I found it helpful reading.

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               DrMark1961posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I read the same article and am wondering if a lot of poor page views are not due to persons writing all over the place. I saw a question the other day from a hubber who has been here over one year and just hit 10,000 PVs. I looked at her hubs and they were about everything.

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  This is something which has been discussed several times on HubPages.
                  
                  If you have a blog, it's definitely true that you MUST focus on a single topic.  Before Google changed its algorithm, you would've picked a narrow subject.   These days, you need to pick a broad topic. So while once you might have had a blog on growing potatoes, now you'll have one on growing vegetables, or maybe on gardening.   The reason is that Google is favouring "authority" blogs these days, so you need to offer a lot of good quality information - pick too narrow a subject and you'll run out of things to say in a year or two.
                  
                  Here on HubPages, evidence suggests that the rule doesn't  apply - because there are Hubbers doing well with a mixed portfolio, and Hubbers doing badly with a specialized one.  Perhaps it's because of the inter-connected architecture of the site, who knows?

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                     DrMark1961posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     But do most of your PVs come from your dancing hubs? You are an authority in that issue so I wonder if you see most hits in that area.

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                        Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Not at all, quite the reverse in fact.

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                     Cardisaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     I agree with you Marisa, about the blog thing. Same theme but broad subject does well. I also find that the URL should contain the blog title or main keywords as well. Even though  my  Jamaican Recipes blog is doing well, it could have done a lot better if I had used the title or keywords in the URL. But before I focused on Jamaican cooking, the blog was primarily to post my recipe links from HP. Had to change that fast and make it a real blog after Penguin....lol

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      LetitiaFTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Good one.

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   IzzyMposted 11 years ago

   Anyone heard anything about a new search engine from China that is set (apparently) to take over from Google as the world's number 1 search engine?

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      DrMark1961posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      OMG another alphabet to learn?

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years ago

   I think Google is strongly encouraging folks to use blogger, and also to use their new "Google Products" sales links and images.

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    kezamxposted 11 years ago

    who sell google adsense account?

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       incomeguruposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       You cannot purchase Google adsense account, but you can apply and get approved.

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