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   TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years ago

   Can anybody explain to me why writing an article about paying off credit card debt is a violation of the TOS?  I have been unable to find anything about this in the TOS or learning center, yet the warning appeared when I saved my article unpublished.  I've written to the team to ask about this, but would like to hear what y'all have to say.  Pretty frustrated right now!  Thanks.

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      somethgblueposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I wrote an article about paying off credit card debt and didn't get any kind of warning, could it be that I'm just a better writer than you, Hmmm!
      
      I guess I could go read your article but just really don't care that much.

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         somethgblueposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I'm sorry, I humbly ask for your apology as I mistook you for a fellow writer I disdain, if you ever get it published I will read it.

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            somethingblue:  Apology accepted, and I thank you for offering it.

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      Simone Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's not that Hubs on credit card debt are against our TOS; it's that because the internet is so flooded with articles on this subject, and because they're often spammy, our moderators need to approve them and have to hold them to a higher standard. We had to implement this change to contend with the Panda update, which looks upon such articles with a particularly harsh eye.

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   Learning in Lifeposted 11 years ago

   They are very specific about how good of quality hubs about debt can be. It has to be an awsome hub.

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   TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years ago

   Stupid me!  I missed the "click on the warning" notation that explained this, and now it makes sense.  Since I think this hub IS pretty good, I'm going to chance it.  We'll see what happens!

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      Quilligrapherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hi there TT.
      
      I did a Hubpages search on "Credit Card Debt." There have been around a dozen Hubs on this topic in the last five days. Even the the most spectacular hubs would have a tough time attracting readers with this over burdened subject.
      
      Good luck with this hub, TT.  I hope your's proves to be an exceptional exception.
      

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Quilligrapher:  Well, I've been working on an extended series about personal money management and this fits my topic.  My intent is to help people here, and not to get rich and if this article even does that for a few folks, then it was worth my time.  Thanks for taking the time to look into this for me.

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      Learning in Lifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The worse that will happen is they idle it and you have to revise it to get it featured. I only know this from doing it myself.

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   Running Youngposted 11 years ago

   because the niche or topic had been spammed before. affiliates stuffed their links  and hubpages.com wants to be very strict with it and make sure nobody abuses it again.

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   LindaSmith1posted 11 years ago

   If you can't post it here, post it elsewhere.  Maybe you can do a hub surrounding money management and then work in how people not only get into debt, but how they can get out of it.

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   LindaSmith1posted 11 years ago

   HP has nothing on forbidden topics anymore.

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      Quilligrapherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Good Evening Linda.
      
      It is possible that I do not understand your statement correctly, however, taken literally it seems be in error. There are a few “forbidden topics” on Hubpages.
      
      “HubPages does not allow …adult content (nudity, provocative images); mature content (graphic, violent images); gambling content (promoting gambling); or the promotion or sales of weapons, arms, alcohol or drugs.” {1}
      
      Perhaps, Linda, you intended another meaning.
      
      {1} http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Mode … ol-Content

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Running Young pretty much summed the problem up.  What actually happened is that I was told I could put the hub into "submission" status and if a moderator OKs it I can publish it...but...HP will not allow any affiliate advertising on this hub.  In other words, if I can print it, I still won't be able to make any money on it.  I think they'll put it through, but if not, I'll have to go to plan B.  LOL!

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            mistyhorizon2003posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Affiliate advertising is not the same as Adsense or the HP Ad program, so you can still make money on this hub, you just can't insert affiliate links.

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I wasn't aware of that.  How do ads that come from outside adsense or the HP ad program get placed into a hub?  Interesting.

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                  mistyhorizon2003posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  The only Ads you see on your hubs are ads from Adsense or the HP Ad program (if you use HP Ads many of your adverts will still be Adsense ones but the difference is that you get paid for these via HP instead of directly from Adsense). The only other adverts you would see on your hubs are ones you have inserted such as Amazon, Ebay OR affiliate offers through companies such as Shareasale etc. Basically these are a link with your affiliate code inserted into them and lead to a product page. If the person who clicks on your affiliate link buys the product the sale is attributed to your affiliate link and the company pay you directly once you reach their various thresholds.
                  
                  This image might help you understand the various adverts you currently see on your hubs:
                  
                  http://hubpages.com/faq/#hpads-appearance

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                     TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     mistyhorizon2003?  Thanks for clearing this up.

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            Ghaelachposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I published a hub on child abuse exactly 12 months ago, and had it unpublished untill I did heavy editing on it. The reason I was given was the hub went against HP's partners code of practise.
            I removed photo's of battered children with  black and blue bruising all over their bodies. I also removed some text as well. After getting it republish was told the that it would be left published but it would have the "Ads Disabled"  icon showing. Meaning it wouldn't be making any money which is a shame as it is my most read hub.
            Best of luck with yours.
            Ghaelach

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Ghaelach:  Topics like child abuse are very tricky to write about, and I usually avoid writing them for that reason.  This time, however, I am taking a chance and am awaiting HPs decision.  I think people need direction in the area of personal finance, which is why I write about it. Thanks to you and everybody else for their input on this issue.

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   LindaSmith1posted 11 years ago

   When I looked for the category earlier, it was not showing in the learning center.

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   dwachiraposted 11 years ago

   Just to make sure that rules are followed on some topics, HP has some strict rules on articles which may involve embedding of affiliate links. The choice of such topics will automatically trigger warnings like in your case.
   
   
   While nothing might really be wrong with your hub, HP insist the hub must be of exceptional high quality and the article will be subjected to moderation before it is published and every time you edit, it has to go through moderation again.
   
   
   This is mostly done to make sure no affiliate links are embedded in the hub among other check-ups. Another topic that usually undergo the same process is any topic touching on web hosting.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   I have also published a few hubs that I know would really help people. HP was fine with it, but Google won't go anywhere near them. Sorry for the off-topic, but I am in rant mode.

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    TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years ago

    Then why comment?  To make me feel worse than I already do?

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    Anonymous00posted 11 years ago

    I love hubpages and the whole aspect of the program here. But I think its unfortunate when we are looking at an HQ article that was unbpublished for being slightly on the fringes of policy. Aslong as it doesn't cross the line, I think its a shame to lose quality content then look at some of the many LQ posts that are so easily put through. If your article didn't conform, its best to review the guidelines and be sure you comply with whatever may be causing the removal. If you're in doubt, attach a message along with your resubmission. Maybe someone will be kind enough to write a small hint outlining what needs to be changed. Otherwise just re-edit your idea and stick as cloesly to the rules as you can. I don't see how money management is against the rules. But then again I never read the article. Good luck. Hope you get it all straightened out.

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       TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Anonymous00:  If you read all of the posts here you will find one that explains why this happened to me.  My hub may yet be published, but its on hold for now.  I understand that HP must protect the site for all of us, and this is one way of doing it.  Now that I understand their thinking, I have no problem with this issue.

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          Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I think the recent, sudden withdrawal of Adsense from the entire Wizzley site is a warning to us all.
          
          What happened was that someone on Wizzley did something Adsense didn't like - so Google just suspended all Adsense for the whole site.    I believe it's all fixed now and Adsense is back, but it would've been a nasty surprise for Wizzley members and means they all lost income for the period it was suspended.
          
          Which perfectly illustrates why HubPages is so careful not to upset Adsense . . .

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    Anonymous00posted 11 years ago

    I read the posts. My point of view doesn't change whether you have no problem with the issue or not. The comments may aid a newcomer that comes across this post for the first time and is looking for feedback. However, I'm glad you've gotten your issue taken care of. Can't wait to read the new article when its published.

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       TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Anonymous00:  Well, it is what it is.  I'm still not sure the hub will be published, but if it is, I hope you feel reading it was worth the effort.  Thanks for your input and support.

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    Anonymous00posted 11 years ago

    Ofcourse I'll read it. Sounds like you really put alot of hard work and effort into it. I've lost a few hubs at times - and it certainly is agitating after hours of diligent work. It's a shame that some of the high end HQ content is never seen over such minimal mishaps. Best of luck

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       TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Update:  I just got word that this article has been approved and has been published.  A big thank you to all who gave me support and advice in this matter.  Please read Simone Smith's explanation above.

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