Both of these are dysfunctional and have degraded value at the moment. I would suggest that they be replaced by transparent metrics.
I suggest that the Hubscore be replaced with the following
QAP (70%) + Traffic (20%) + Popularity (10%)
=>QAP contribution is the score 100% rescaled to a value out of 70
=>Traffic - an index related to HP traffic target - when reaches zero-> idled
=>Popularity - an index based on internal traffic, likes etc.
I suggest that on the 'stats' page the following be displayed perhaps by hovering over the 'score'. These are some examples:
81% Q60 (6:7:6) T10 P6
65% Q51 (7:6:4) T5 P9
Q score out of 70
Q score components 1-10 for (substance : organization : grammar and mechanics)
Traffic out of 20
Popularity out of 10
I suggest that the hubberscore becomes the simple average of the hubscores for featured articles
It has been suggested that revealing the QAP data and other information would lead to 'gaming' the system. I don't agree with that. If authors knew their scores they would know exactly what to fix, and they could see the outcomes of their edits. Surely this is what HP wants? HP provides advice on improving hubs - why not be transparent and provide useful feed-back on what to improve. There are various checks in place to stop clicking on own hubs etc.
It has been suggested that revealing the scores would trigger an avalanche of enquires about the validity of the ratings. HP already has a policy of not providing detailed justification. It also provides the hubscore - why not make it more explicit. If people knew that the issue related to 'organisation' or 'traffic' this feedback would be very helpful and would answer many of their queries.
Having the traffic score linked to idling - indicated by a zero value - would mean that authors could see what caused a hub the be idled
0 for Traffic => traffic too low
>0 for Traffic => idled for other reasons, not traffic
Q value (out of 70) less than some threshold - 20 say - idled due to poor quality, with detail available as described above.
I suggest that this would greatly improve the two key objectives: Quality + Traffic.
I suggest that the revised Hubscore be used as the metric for ranking pages to display on the topic pages - this is a mystery at the moment and needs to be transparent.
Your suggestion is most appreciated, janderson99! We've been discussing changes to HubScore and HubberScore a lot (internally) over the past couple of days.
It looks like we're going to hold off on refining HubScore until we're done tweaking the QAP. Makes sense, no? But your insights and tips are great.
by Sarah Spradlin 2 weeks ago
I've heard to disregard that but I'm still a little curious. Honestly I don't know how the score is even decided but those of you that have a lot of followers or have been able to make money, what is your average score per article?Thank you!
by Janis Leslie Evans 4 years ago
Is anyone still adjusting to the algorithm changes to hubscores? In the forum link below, Paul gave us answers on the change which was implemented a few weeks ago. At the end of his post, he indicated that a second tweak would occur this week. Well, it's here. Now that I know what it is, I can ride...
by sheilamyers 5 years ago
I've been here long enough to realize that hub scores can be low for good hubs and high for those so-so hubs. I also know that hub scores are based on more than content so traffic and reader comments and other things alter the score. For the most part, I don't concern myself with the score as long...
by Robert P 4 years ago
I have been hub hopping lately and I am disgusted with the incoherent garbage that I am coming across - nothing but poorly translated articles of about 400 words, usually without even any formatting. I would say that more than half of the articles I randomly encounter are clearly nothing but spun...
by Grace Marguerite Williams 6 years ago
What would YOU want to do away with?
by jloeding 6 years ago
Tell me why my hub score changes from day to day?Could someone please explain why the hub score on the profile changes from day to day without having released a hub?
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