HP Ads verses Google Adsense

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   the clean lifeposted 12 years ago

   I'd like to know what hubbers think regarding HP ads verses Google Adsense. Can you run both at the same time or only one.?If only one, which one do you think would earn more revenue? Is there a way to switch from HP ads to Google and if so how can you do it?

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You may run HPads (which includes a very few adsense ads) or you may Adsense by itself.
      
      Most hubbers find HPads provides superior earnings, but there are exceptions.  The only way to know in your particular case is to shut off HPads, which will leave Adsense running.  It can be done in the earnings section of the stats page, just don't keep turning it off and on every few days.

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         the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         wilderness- Thank you for the info. I will give it a try and see what happens, although I do like HPads and make at least 1.00 + each day.

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      theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I only run AdSense. I tried the ad program for a bit, but I make a lot more money through AdSense. I think I am the minority though, as most people experience the opposite.

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         Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I prefer Adsense also!  Once in a while you'll get the high dollar clicks.  Besides, I don't like the in-house program.

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      aisha91posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hello cleanlife, I am also curious about the effect of hp ad program and adsense ad program in my overall earning. I have visited your profile and I see that your adsense ad program is on. Can you please keep us posted about your experiment? I am at hpads right now, and also thinking to tryout adsense but ebay holding me back.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   They are both adsense based and you have to pick one.  I do better on hubads but other people find the reverse.  I would suggest trying each one for a couples of weeks to see which does best.  Remember that if you run hubads you still have one adsense ad, and so need to add those together to get total earnings.

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      the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you psycheskinner, I will look into maybe changing for a week or so.

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   Anna Sternfeldtposted 12 years ago

   This is a bit confusing to me, it seems like I have both running, but you say that I have to pick one? I haven't done so, but I get reports telling what I have earned from HP earning program and if I go into my Google Adsense account I can see that I have earned a small sum there as well. But on the other hand... if you clean life with so many hubs earn 1 dollar a day..is it really worth it..well...money wise.. I am thinking of what time and efforts I have to put in to have as many hubs as you have...and not expecting to earn more..I think I focus on my novel :-)

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      the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Anna, I shut off HP ads to see if I get any clicks from Adsense. As of now Nothing and not making anything from HP. I will give it a few days and may just turn back on HP ads.

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   tiffanyzposted 12 years ago

   I am confused also Ana, I didn't realize that I had to choose.  I have HP, Adsense, Amazon and Ebay. I make a few pennies a day. Yesterday, I earned 15 cents, which I am very happy about because my hubs are being read. Someone mentioned Guest Blogging on other pages, but I am not sure how to do that. I have not made any money from Adsense yet? just HP. There is so much hype about Adsense, but I don't find it that worthwhile, to be honest.

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      the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Tiffany I have the same as you with amazon, ebay adsense and HP ads. I need to ask the forum if shutting off HP ads will effect my default tracker, regarding having people sign up.
      
      If anyone know that answer please post it here. Thank you!

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   Anna Sternfeldtposted 12 years ago

   But I think that is what you are able to have, ebay, Amazon, and google Adsense, when you have the HP adprogram, that is what I have as well. I was just confused about the option of having either HP ads or google adsense..

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      the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I am heading over and ask the forum about my tracker and if shutting of HP ads effects it

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   Anil and Honeyposted 12 years ago

   Google Adsense Rejected my Application. Now my account balance is zero.which are another source  for getting money.I don't know.

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      the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Turn on you HP ads in the earnings section.

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   ComposerGoneWildposted 12 years ago

   You also have to take into consideration that your money will go up and down with either depending on if people ACTUALLY click on the ads themselves.
   
   Personally, I make way more with HP ad program, but my personal website I make money from Google Adsense.  I also put amazon ads on both my hubs and my official website.  Amazon awards you a percentage of the sale.

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      the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks ComposerGoneWild, I too have my blog with adsense. I will try this for a week and more than likely go back to HP ads. At least I make money each day there. Thanks

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   VVanNessposted 12 years ago

   I am new to Hubpages and getting paid to write. How do I get involved with HP ads and how would I replace the Google ads in my articles with HP ones?

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      the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome VVanNess! I believe if you go to your earning stats there is a button to the left Configure. try clicking that and it may say turn on HP ads. Ii am not real sure, but I know someone here has the correct answer. Check checking in here and you will get the right answer. Welcome aboard !

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         VVanNessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         On my Hubpages Earnings page, there is no option for HP ads. Unless of course all of you are talking about HP like Hubpages and not like Hewlett-Packard, lol. I have been having the hardest time with getting a Google Adsense account and I don't know why. It is keeping me from earning in just about every other area.

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            Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You cannot join the HPAds Program if you don't have a Google Adsense account, but you can apply with Amazon directly for an Amazon affiliate account.  Amazon pays you directly.  I don't have eBay, so I don't know anything about eBay.
            
            ... and no. .. we are not talking about Hewlett-Packard... I think.

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               VVanNessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks! Do you have any tricks up your sleeve for getting a Google Adsense account? I've been trying for a while and cannot seem to master it.

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                  Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry, I don't.  Two years ago, I applied when I started writing on Squidoo, and I got accepted right away with only one lens.  I guess Google just made it tougher these days, and probably Google liked Squidoo then... not too much now tho'.  Good luck!

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                     VVanNessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks!

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   yupperclubposted 12 years ago

   i think they are both the same...except one you share.

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    athulnairposted 12 years ago

    I think HP will run ads from different publishers, which includes Microsoft ads and adsense. We do not have control over which one but HP earnings are based upon mostly no of views. But adsense are based on clicks.

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       the clean lifeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you for this information,

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    lovebuglenaposted 12 years ago

    When you run the Hub Pages Ad Program you are also running Google Ads, which means you have the potential to earn with both Google AdSense and Hub Pages at the same time. When you run the Hub Pages Ad Program though I think the majority of the ads would be from other advertising networks so your direct Google AdSense earnings will be potentially less than the Ad Program earnings. At least that is what I am experiencing right now. Besides, the Ad Program is based on impressions not clicks so either way you slice it the Ad Program earns you more than Google AdSense itself. So, I would run the Ad Program for sure.

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    THX1138posted 12 years ago

    I'm new to HubPages and have a very big AdSense question I'd rather HubPages answer -- except I can't figure out how to ask them directly.
    
    I've been taking a New York University course on search engine marketing and have been using Google's AdWords tool to produce text ads for a real-world client.  By using AdWords I'm on the other side of the AdSense equation: from inside AdWords I can see that HubPages is one of the websites where the ads I create are displayed.
    
    But here's the thing: when a marketer creates an AdWords display campaign she must choose how her client, the advertiser, will pay.  There are two critically different choices: pay by the *click* or pay by the *impression*.  The team I'm on for this NYU course is universally choosing to have our client pay by the click, because obviously that way he only pays for someone who's interested enough in the ad to click on it.  And frankly I can't imagine why an advertiser would pay by the impression instead.
    
    Yet the HubPages FAQ explains how it generates income strictly in terms of impressions.  The FAQ says:
    
    "After you’ve joined advertising affiliate programs and/or the HubPages Earnings Program, ads from these programs may appear on your Hubs. 60% of the time, any ads appearing on your Hubs can earn money for you. This is referred to as your share of impressions."
    
    Does anyone have enough experience with HubPages to know whether HubPages is using the term "impressions" the same way that Google AdWords (and AdSense) is?  Or does HubPages really mean *clicks* when it talks about "impressions"?
    
    Because if HubPages and Google are using the term "impressions" in exactly the same way I'd be amazed if creating Hubs would ever generate much AdSense income.

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    Rosie2010posted 12 years ago

    Hi the clean life, I am actually experimenting on Google Adsense alone this month.  Since March 20, 2013, my daily impressions dropped like a hot potato (from 400-500/day to 100+).  My views are the same and Google Analytics remains normal--visits, views and all.  So, what da heck happened?  Did my viewers suddenly decided that my hubs were not worth reading through?  Is it due to HP experimenting on ads?  But how come I don't read anything from other hubbers about this in the forums.  Is it just me? 
    
    "Rosie... it is just you!"  sincerely, Hubpages.
    
    Today is March 5th, so far my earnings from Adsense alone is a whopping $1.61.  So far today, I've made 3 cents.  Woohoo!!!  I'll keep you posted.

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       Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       ooops, today is March 4th.  So, it's about 50 cents a day.  To be continued...

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          Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Holy cow!  Rosie, wake up!  It's April !!!!!!!!!!!!
          
          It's ok, Rosie.  Nobody's paying attention to you anyway.

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    lovebuglenaposted 12 years ago

    THX1138 - 60% of the time our AdSense ID is in place and 40% of the time it is the Hub Pages AdSense ID that's in place. Basically 60% of the ad impressions go to us and 40% go to Hub Pages. It doesn't matter if an ad is clicked on or not. Now if someone clicks on an ad and at that time the Hub Pages AdSense is running then Hub Pages gets the revenue and not you but I don't know how we can know when our AdSense is running and when their's is.

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       Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       You can usually hover the cursor over the ad and see either your Adsense code or one of HP's displayed.  Optional is to right click on them and view the frame info.  However, it's impossible to check every hub to see if they are indeed getting a 60/40 split.  It's a "trust us" sorta system. 
       
       I would prefer HP to take the first 24 minutes and give us the 36 every hour so we could indeed check the system.  But noooooo.......

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       THX1138posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       lovebuglena -- thanks for the reply.  I'm less interested in understanding when my 60% kicks in than in knowing how it can possibly kick in at all if AdWords advertisers are running their ads on a pay-per-click model rather than a pay-per-impression model.  I'm running AdWords display ads for a client right now and I've selected the pay-per-click model because Google's display network easily generates zillions of impressions but *rarely* generates clicks.
       
       Example: one of my ads was served 24,439 times but generated only 32 clicks for a click-through-rate of 0.13% (in other words, dreadful) and a cost-per-click of 65 cents.  Client's total expenditure: $20.89
       
       I can't imagine an advertiser paying per impression.  So I'm reluctant to believe that HubPages is actually doing so with its own Hub builders.
       
       But I'd be delighted for someone to supply some evidence that I'm wrong.

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    c mark walkerposted 12 years ago

    getting on Adsense is the trick though huh?

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    lovebuglenaposted 12 years ago

    I have worked with Google AdWords before at one of my jobs and I have seen CPM used for the ad campaigns. Some advertisers care more about people seeing their ads more than about them clicking on the ads. I would assume though that probably any Google Ads displayed on Hub Pages would be CPC and ads from other networks would be CPM.

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