This forum post discussed the scraping site ALLTOPIC.com:
I have found another site which is scraping most of HubPages, right down to the HubPages-Tutorial-and-Community Section:
(Notice the hyphen in the name.)
I didn't find any of my Hubs there, so I'm not filing anything. If you find yours, the Host is GoDaddy, and you file a complaint here:
https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/Abuse … p;ci=22420
This is the guy who owns the site:
Nguyen Huu Hai
Email Address: firstname.lastname@example.org
And this is what he looks like:
He's a freelance computer programmer.
I found one of my hubs there but entering the domain name without the gap and with the hyphen gets this message "Invalid domain name format"?????
Of course, I don't want to make the link clickable, but just remove the spaces and paste it in your browser. I just did and here's a screen shot. All the Topic Pages are on the left:
When I enter the name without the gap I get nothing. So I used www. and got to see the front page but on clicking on my hub the screen went blank.
Thanks my friend--It was his site that I had noticed and mistakenly put alltopics without the hyphen. Good job on finding this dude. He must not have realized he put my wife's copyright notice with what he copied.
He may have had it under the domain without the hyphen and moved it to the one with a hyphen. Guy's like this won't stop until they hear from the CEO of HubPages.
I know, and many of us wonder why our views have went into the crapper. I have found that many of my articles are not showing in Google search like they once did. Hubpages, it is time for you all to go to battle for us. I have considered buying my own website and my wife and I may just move all our material out of here.
At one time, I was making some ok money here. It has went down to nothing and I feel something quite questionable happening here at hubpages. With over 600 hubs, I should be at payout every month. Not so.
I hope some changes happen soon, or I will be making some changes.
As said once before, API data pulls are very common in the programme world. In fact all social sharing is based on pulling partial or whole units of data from one location to another. This fellow, like the other junior programmer, is testing to see if the code works and obviously it does. Try to conact him first and ask him to remove the resulted data.
Are you saying this was done inadvertently? If so, then contacting him directly would be the best bet. I guess what's difficult for non-techies to understand is how someone could do this by accident.
Oh c'mon. He isn't checking code by copying a whole site. No way. Apathy can be your biggest enemy. He knew what he was doing.
ever used without the writers permission, enabling yourself or third party platform to benefit from.
Sorry, cannot go with you here, James. It may be common to scrape others work and publish it as a test, but so is stealing. That it is common doesn't make it OK.
It may or may not be with malicious intent, but that doesn't matter either. It is harmful, it is illegal and it is unethical whatever the intended result.
Finally, there is an adsense ad at the end of each stolen article. The thief (and it is a thief!) is indeed earning from his stolen content.
Off to file DMCA's with GoDaddy
That ad has HP's doubleclick publisher number...awkward. Also, technically, he hadn't stolen anything. He, like FB, Pinterest, etc is ccurating content as a third party platform.
Again, before crowing thief, get the facts and then back up your firm position by removing every scrape you have done accidentally on purpose to increase your profit options.
No, he's not curating hubs. He is reproducing them and publishing them. While copyright law allows reproduction of small portions of published work, reproducing the entire article, or a significant portion thereof, is prohibited.
So, thief is the proper term. Not curator, not exhibitor, not software test engineer. Thief.
Someone does not need to be an intentional thief, or even make money from their actions, to commit a copyright violation. By copying a Hub he is tarnishing the uniqueness of it, and thereby reducing the author's capacity to earn money from their own work. If his action has the ability to impact the creator's ability to earn from their work, he is committing a copyright violation.
This is all aside from the fact that we seem to be having trouble with copied content outranking Hubs these days. If his "curated' content outranks yours, he's taken money out of your pocket. Just because he isn't making money himself doesn't make it okay.
Am not disagreeing with you.
But other "legal" curators and syndication services are doing exactly the same thing?! Even writers are syndicating fellow writers content. Essentially all are in violation and most of the larger ones ARE hugely outranking other writers, not to mention lowering revenue potential for the writers while increasing their own profits.
I'm not sure what you mean by legal syndication services as it would pertain to HubPages. Most I can think of would just post a link, or at the very least a link plus a few paragraphs. If they are doing anything more they are violating copyright, and therefore what they are doing is not legal. Whether they are some clown with a Blogger blog or CNN, they can't reproduce my work without my permission.
I'm a bit unforgiving with sites and bloggers who think it's okay to stretch the limits of copyright laws and Fair Use these days. Getting tired of seeing my work plastered all over the web.
Syndication is not content theft; it is done by permission and often by payment do the syndication service.
Stealing content is an actionable offense in violation of U.S. law and of International Law in violation of the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works in 166 countries.
McAfee gives me a "Suspicious Site" warning when I try to go to all-topic.com. The site is disreputable in many ways, it would seem.
Thank you two more stolen I just filed on healthylivingbox dot net. To find your stuff put on Google search alltopic space your writers name...ta da
http://l iverpoolwallpaper. net/large-size-sweatpants-for-tall-men-paul-edmondson-on-hubpages.html
http:// adf.ly/211953/http: //edweirdo.hubpages.com/hub/Nicolas-Cage-Movies
http://a df.ly/211953/http:/ /dorsi.hubpages.com/hub/Money-Orders-at-Walmart
http://adf.ly/2 11953/ http://lillygrillzit.hubpages.com/
http://adf.ly/211 953/http://lillygrillzit.hubpages.com/hub/ Why-It-Has-Been-So-Hot-In-the-South-Summer-2010-The-Gulf-Coast
Maybe since such important people are being hit we Hubbers as a whole will get more assistance from HP. You are welcome. :-) There were many, many others there it starts as Liverpool wallpaper, then adfly. On my stuff alone, hundreds of hits. This is major theft.
DONT CLICK ON ANY LIVE LINKS I BROKE THEM UP BEFORE PUBLISHING AS YOU CAN SEE LIKE THE REPTILES THEY ARE LITTLE BITS ARE ALIVE ON THEIR OWN...CREEPY. NOT YELLING JUST WARNING.
I saw one of my hubs on all-topic but when I clicked to check it out. I got a blank page. Wondering if they could be taking some of their stuff down. I have filed so many DMCA lately I may have alread y filed on this person.
I can't believe that Google actually indexes and ranks these scrapper sites. How lame is that? Google should blacklist these sites and make it as though they don't exist in their rankings.
Also, I've been to websites that do not allow simple copy and past functions. Some kind of code is written into the pages to prevent easy copying. Would this help if HP implemented this copy prevention method, or are these programmers able to get around it by downloading the source code of the page and recreating it on their servers?
One of my hubs is there, word for word, pictures and all.
Many thanks Writer Fox. There are many hubs from many hubbers. I've filed a complaint thanks to your link and hope that others will too. Let's keep at these thieves. It feels like they're in our front rooms.
PS, the API pulled all 15000+ articles wrapped in an iframe header. Thanks to Google's generous creation of the API callback.
So, best to file a thief report against Goo for allowing this process to happen in the first place. Go to the source of the problem, yes? Cut off the head of the snake makes more sense than picking at its scales...
I just visited the alltopic.com site and there's a message at the top left saying, "the domain alltopic.com may be for sale by its owner. I wonder why.
Put a hyphen between 'all' and 'topic' and the site is still there. This could explain some of the lost traffic to HubPages.
He has copied 20,800 pages!
This is frustrating. I found more than 50 hubs of mine copied. I am wasting my time on filing DMCA. I find this exercise so tiring... so I divided it for 5 days. Send for 13 today.
I have found 13 of mine so far.... arrrrrrgh!!! This guy is a thief... I am starting the reporting process tomorrow....
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