How do you get you hubs listed higher on the 'topics' search pages?

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   Jodahposted 9 years ago

   I'm just wondering what is the requirement or advice on how to get your hubs ranked higher on the 'topic' search (explore hub) pages. I have 86 hubs all featured, but most are not within the first 5 or 6 pages of the hub search even in their particular catagory. Three are even 'editors' choice. My only problem is that I noticed a lot of those ahead of mine have maybe 1 or 2 followers and no comments, whereas I have 158 followers and most hubs have at least 30 comments. This is obviously not a requirement, just interested to know what is, so I can get my hubs listed on the first or second page.

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      WillStarrposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Not sure, but I think they're listed according to current activity.

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      Barbara Kayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not positive, but I think Hub score determines it. We'll have to wait and see what the staff says.

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         paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I am doomed...

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         Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Some of the hubs on the first page have no followers and no comments, so it doesn't seem logical that they are getting huge internal traffic. I haven't checked their hub scores though.

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      The Examiner-1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Jodah,
      Are you asking about on HP or on search engines?

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         reading-helperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         The answer to your question is in the original post and in the title of this thread.

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         Writer Foxposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Jodah is asking about the order in which Hubs are listed on the Topics pages.

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         Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         On HPs topics pages, not interested in search engines.

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      The Examiner-1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Jodah,
      Since they seem to be listed the same as they are on the stats page then I would say raising them would happen when you edit them, as on the stats page.

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         Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I have edited all my older hubs, doesn't seem to make any difference.

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      FlourishAnywayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You ask a good question.  I have noticed apparent previously.

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      Faith Reaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I noticed that when one first publishes a hub, especially when we did the Hugs, they would be in the very first spot on page one.  So, then I went back and checked and most of my hubs were near the top of the first page of the topic page on HP, especially when first published, then someone else published something under that topic, they would go to the first spot, but then mine would pop back up to the first spot after a day or two.  I guess it depends on views too, even if on the HP topic page?  Then after a while, they will all eventually fall a bit.  Sometimes if the topic was not an obvious choice from the list of topic choices, I would play with it until I saw it go to the top of the page.  It is very important to list your hub under the appropriate topic and sometimes that is hard to find in the search.  However, you can search until you find the topic under which your hub is closer to the top of the first page.

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         Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for that Faith, it's a help. Maybe I have to check if my hubs are in suitable categories.

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         The Examiner-1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         The newer they are and the better the topic and content, the higher they will be.

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            Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Ok I just a wrote a hub a few hours ago and it is on the first page of Poems and Poetry, so it appears you are right, and three older ones are now on the second page. Thanks.

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               Faith Reaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Awesome Jodah! Yes, just keep searching for appropriate topics and see which one your hub is in the number one spot or pretty close! Plus, you can go back and check your other hubs and get them under the best topic so that all your hubs will be at least on the first topic page!

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      Faith Reaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, plus it is a bit harder now to check, unless it is an obvious topic, as they have hidden the rest of the topics at the tops of our hubs.  Whereas before, all one had to do was click on it.  Some hubs it is hard to remember exactly which topic one chose to begin with, if it has been a good while.

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      lkbiswasposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I could not understood this tafic.

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   Marie Flintposted 9 years ago

   Boy, Jodah, I'm in the dark on this, too. I've been unpublishing featured hubs with low scores and poor page views, but maybe I should check the topics search pages before doing so. Thank you for asking this question.

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      Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      No problem Mary, it's just one of those things that baffles me. I have had various people tell me different opinions on this but it's still not clear. Maybe it goes on what Hub Pages considers quality hubs being listed first or outside views but it doesn't seem to tie in with internal HP views.

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         The Examiner-1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Just update them with something new.

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   Writer Foxposted 9 years ago

   I hope a staff member will answer this question.  For my Hubs, the way they are listed on the Topic categories has nothing to do with recent views from Hubbers, Hub Score or Google views.  Almost all of my Hubs are listed high on the first page of their Topics, but the order in which they are listed is a result of an HP algorithm which is probably calculating a number of factors.  Maybe it's like Hub Scores and Hubber scores and they just don't want us to know!

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      Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Someone suggested on another forum that it works on a carousel and changes at a certain time each day, rising different hubs to the top but I haven't noticed this.

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      DrMark1961posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Based on your findings on Google Analytics, do you receive any significant number of page views when your hubs are listed higher on the topics pages?
      It does not seem to matter much to my numbers.

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         Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         It isn't like I check the position of my hubs on the topic pages each day, maybe once per week, but I have only ever seen one listed on the first page of topics. No, I have not noticed any difference to my number of views.

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            Writer Foxposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I wish someone from the staff would answer on this thread.
            
            The reason a high ranking on the Topic page is important for your Hub is because of the backlink (and Google PageRank) your Hub receives.  If your Hub is pushed to page 3 or 4 of a Topic, it may not receive any PageRank juice if that page doesn't have much (PRO or none) to disperse.  The higher your Hub is positioned on page 1 of a Topic, the more important the link to your Hub is in the eyes of Google.

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               Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               That's what I imagined to be the case, and was the reason for me asking the question. Please Hub Page stall, answer this.

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   jansharesposted 9 years ago

   Hi Jodah, I had a theory on this that I posted a long time ago in a forum. I've studied the "Topics" pages like you, to try and figure it out. I've concluded that it has to do with:
   1. The rate at which similar hubs or hubs in same subject categories are newly published compared to what already exists; these hubs vie for position;
   2. Surges in organic traffic;
   3. The rate at which newly published hubs are initially read by hubbers (i.e., internal traffic);
   4. (Back to #1) How similar hubs compare to each other, i.e., the competition factor, dictated by QAP; and
   5. New hubs by newbies appear to get favor which is why most of them don't have a lot of comments or followers; the algorithm encourages frequent publishing which is rewarded by getting on the "Topic" page, if it's a quality hub.
   
   As mentioned before, you've noticed that hubs move up and down frequently on the page, many times within a day. I believe all the above factors determine that movement.

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      Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for that Jan, You have some good points. It's probably the best explanation I've got so far.

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         jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         You're welcome.

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   muzzsterposted 9 years ago

   I think they are listed according to how recently they were published or according to the recent activity on the hub.

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      psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      That is what I had always assumed.

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   The Examiner-1posted 9 years ago

   You are welcome.

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