Among the missing... people, places, things.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 9 years ago

   How many historical missing people, places and things can you think of? Like: Amelia Earhart, Atlantis, Ark of the Covenant, 18 minutes of watergate tape.... and where are they?

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      Christy Kirwanposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The only one I can think of is the lost Virginia Roanoke Colony. It sure would be fascinating to know the truth about all of them! I guess we can only hope more clues are uncovered by historians one day.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Good one, Kristy. The truth  about them may be discovered sooner than the story of the lost IRS e-mails.

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         Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Roanoke DNA Studies: Researchers at North Carolina's Research Triangle worked on this problem and found some good answers.
         
         DNA analysis found descendants of the Roanoke colonists after they went to live with the Croatan Band and left their Governor a coded message about their whereabouts.
         
         European artifacts recently have been found on Hatteras Island (formerly Croatan Island), where the Europeans and the Native Americans lived together. Together with DNA, this indicates some proof.
         
         Currently, about 250 descendants of these intermarriages live in the Greenville NC area. Researchers are slowly discovering DNA markers in them that originated in England, Spain and possibly elsewhere in Europe. The Roanoke DNA Studies are ongoing and more news will likely hit the media in the near future.
         
         I wrote about this about 1 1/2 years ago. Fascinating history.

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            Christy Kirwanposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            That's incredible! It's so interesting how many secrets we're able to uncover with new technology (like DNA testing). I'll have to take a look at your Hub on the subject.

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            Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Patty, I also wrote a hub on the Roanoke Colony -- it has long been called the biggest mystery in the history of America. I will have to hop over and read your hub. This subject is so interesting.

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               rebekahELLEposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               This is a topic I'm not familiar with at all.  I think I could easily spend a day reading the fascinating, interesting hubs found on HP. 
               
               You've piqued my interest about Anastasia.

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                  CMHypnoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Rebekah they have found the remains of Anastasia and Alexis.  When the Romanov remains were first discovered outside Ekaterinburg there were two corpses missing but they were found later
                  
                  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ussia.html

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                     Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks for that link! We had a few impostors in New England in the 20th century.
                     
                     I see in a subsequent article that the DNA evidence was confirmed.

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The Holy Grail. The Malaysian jet over the Indian Ocean.  Anastasia and Alexei Nikolaevich, daughter and son of Tsar Nicholas of Russia -- the family members were executed, but the bodies of Anastasia and Alexei were not found.

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         Jcpuddlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I'm working on a hub about Anastasia as well. Bear with me, these take quite a bit of research. Anastasia is one of those "mysteries" that isn't really a mystery - the answer just isn't well known and spread.

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            Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Anastasia is a fascinating subject to research and write about. I look forward to reading it. There was a movie made about her. I believe Ingrid Bergman played Anastasia. It has been years since I have watched it, but I remember it was very well done and I enjoyed it.

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               Jcpuddlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               I'm short on time and have a few to finish before it. I found the subject fascinating since I saw the old animated movie. Its awesome that they managed to solve that mystery but I wish there was a way to spread it further so it isn't limited knowledge!

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      My entire collection of the art classes I took in college -- notebooks, drawings, text books, supplies. 

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      brakel2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Anne Margret's ex boyfriend disappeared from a ship.
      
      Two teens disappeared from the State Fair in Oklahoma in the 90s and were never found.

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         moonlakeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Wasn't that Olivia Newton-John's boyfriend.
         All the missing children.

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The lost Dutchman's mine.

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      moonlakeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Jesse James missing gold.

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   Genna Eastposted 9 years ago

   This is an interesting question, Rochelle.  Some things immediately come to mind other than what has been posted:  Everything and every poor soul that was supposedly “swallowed up” in the Bermuda Triangle; Jimmy  Hoffa; The Lost Fabergé Eggs.

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   rebekahELLEposted 9 years ago

   Do we know with conclusive evidence about the collapse of the Mayan civilization? Did they migrate, die of drought?

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      Genna Eastposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, I believe they survived the Spanish conquistadors and their descendents still live today in the Maya area.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         There are some people living in those areas who bear a striking resemblance to some of Mayan pottery images.

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         rebekahELLEposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I'm sure there are those who survived whatever took place at the decline of their civilization. I've read that there are numerous theories about what caused a sudden decline in the southern cities.

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         Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I agree. I have a few friends and students whose DNA, when analyzed, proved to include that matching the Mayans and one young man had facial features to match as well.

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There are some Mayan descendants in the local area where the civilization was. They still make Worry Dolls as their ancestors did.

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   paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

   The entire American medical industry seems to have misplaced the Hippocratic Oath. Oh, well. Maybe it will turn up someday.

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      Rochelle Frankposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Now you have taken this in a new direction. I suppose we could think of a lot of things that modern civilization has lost.

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         paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         That was just my rant for the day.
         
         Meanwhile, there are probably a billion single socks hanging out in an alternate universe somewhere.

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   jansharesposted 9 years ago

   Do you remember the Celestine Prophecies? The book was fiction but I think it was supposedly based on the search for a real missing book or papers about the secret to life or something. Or was that a part of the book's appeal? That's what made to story soooo good. I wish I could find my copy.

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      Rochelle Frankposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Not familar-- though the title rings a bell. Mysteries always intrigue a curious mind.

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   Jcpuddlesposted 9 years ago

   Amelia Earhart isn't missing. She never really was (for long at least). Long story short, she was stranded with her navigator on an island for a while, most the evidence was ignored for a while, and now, the "mystery" is no longer a mystery. I have a hub on it if you're really interested but that's the jist of it.
   Atlantis never existed. Plato mentioned it. Once. Somehow everyone misinterpreted it as fact. I'm working on a hub on Atlantis at the moment.

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      Rochelle Frankposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      All good subjects for writers, and part of my motive was to stir those thoughts. I will be looking at yours

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   CMHypnoposted 9 years ago

   The Amber Room, stolen from the Winter Palace in St Petersburg by the Naziz in WWII

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   limpetposted 9 years ago

   During  the great depression an Australian gold prospector named Lasseter stumbled across a huge gold reef in the harsh desert of central Australia. When he returned to stake his claim he went back to the site but could not find it and perished. The legend became known as 'Lasseter's reef' which is well documented in folklore. A few years later a plane 'the Lady Southern Cross' piloted by pioneer aviator Charles Kingsford - Smith went missing over the Indian Ocean on a flight from London to Sydney.

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      Rochelle Frankposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      IN the desert southwest of the U.S. is "The Lost Dutchman's Mine"-- people are still looking.
      Then there's DB Cooper who parachuted out of a plane with a load of cash over California-- some of the cash has been found, but not Cooper.. And I guess some people are still looking for that Malaysian airliner (not the one in Ukraine, the earlier one).

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         Jcpuddlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I think that Malaysian airliner is going to end up one of the "mysteries" that isn't really a mystery, kind of like Earhart. Like in 25 years (and I mean no disrespect towards anyone) people will still have conspiracy theories when wreckage supporting that the plane crashed was found years prior.

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   limpetposted 9 years ago

   The 'Lost Chord' composed by the English playwright Arthur Sullivan was never in actual fact lost as it met public acclaim in late 19th century London towne. His follow up composition was to be the 'Second lost chord' however he died prior to finishing it. Co-incidentaly when Glenn Miller's plane went missing on a flight from London to Paris in the war years it was rumoured he had a brief case full of yet to be released music.

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    Jodahposted 9 years ago

    Lord Lucan, suspected of murdering his family but never found. Other commenters have covered most I could think of. Good question though.

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       Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       That reminds me of Jack The Ripper, Jodah. As far as I know, they never found out who the Ripper was.

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          Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Two historical/forensic studies that show solid method and robust statistical results point to different identities. How confounding!
          
          A third result is posted across the Internet by a descendant of a London police official at the time; the poster is quite angry that the world is not accepting the opinion of his ancestor. So, we have three identities? Did they work together?  Plus, a conspiracy theory of old says that the press made Jack up, stringing together prostitute deaths and questionable evidences.
          
          We likely will never know the ID for certain and the Tourism, Literature, and Film businesses around Jack will continue in a very healthy manner.

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             limpetposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             Greetings Darklings
             
             Allow me to give you a conducted tour along the labyrinthine passage ways of Whitechapel after dark
             
             Sweet dreams
             the limpet

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                Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Ooooohh, eloquent! I like it. A long poem on the subject is called for.

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    Chinaimportposted 9 years ago

    Rapid changes in technologies saw many gadgets disappear during our lifetime only. Teleprinters once used by banks to transfer billions of dollars are gone so are IBM punch card readers.  I have not seen any 8” floppy disk lately or a portable fax machine.  Does anyone remember Newton fax?

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    Sed-meposted 9 years ago

    What a fabulous idea for a thread, Rochelle.
    I watched a PBS special on the lost/hanging gardens of Babylonia http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/the-los … sode/1203/ .
    Turns out you just need to be looking in the right place.
    
    (I don't know if this is the same link or a different one. http://video.pbs.org/video/2365226540/ )

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       Rochelle Frankposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you, Sed-me. I hope it provides food for thought for many hubbers. Few of us can resist delving into a good mystery.

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    paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

    
    Well, technically, he's already been found. The owner is still missing though.
    
    http://news.msn.com/offbeat/150-pound-t … -la-suburb

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    limpetposted 9 years ago

    I'd be intrigued to know whatever happened to the revised manuscript of Valerie Solanas' S.CU.M. manifesto which went missing from her San Francisco apartment after her untimely death.

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