Hubscore Algorithm Changes Revisited

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   jansharesposted 9 years ago

   Is anyone still adjusting to the algorithm changes to hubscores? In the forum link below, Paul gave us answers on the change which was implemented a few weeks ago. At the end of his post, he indicated that a second tweak would occur this week. Well, it's here. Now that I know what it is, I can ride the waves and wait until the waters calm. However, I'm surprised at how the hubs I deem as mediocre are now receiving very high hubscores and my better hubs are decreasing drastically. Is anyone else seeing the same?
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/123705
   
   In this same forum, ChristinS posted a link which pointed out possible Google involvement. One thing I recall is something about how keyword ranks can be changed (by Google?) which could decrease (or I guess increase) how articles with particular keywords get found. My phrasing of this issue may be off but if anyone knows what I'm talking about please tell me. This goes back to my trying to understand how some obscure hubs with very little traffic can all of a sudden jump to the top.

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      LuisEGonzalezposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Don't know why but some of my low scoring hubs are now on top while my best hubs have fallen several notches.

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      Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes Jan. I had one of my higher scored hubs drop from the high 80s to 58 last week, but it has risen to 64 since then. Six others had dropped to under 60 but have since risen. Some of my previously lower ranked hubs are now among my top scores...weird, but as long as they are still featured I can live with it. My hubber score at least has risen a little.

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      Buildrepsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Jan, I am having the same. No idea what is happening now again. The average score of my articles is dropping again. Now 77, probably going far more down. Worst articles are on top, the best have sunk to the bottom. Logic has gone to hell.
      
      Since the former discussion thread I made a few experiments by editing articles, mainly deleting links to other sites. It helped just a fraction. This rating system of Hubpages became simply unpredictable.
      
      It's time that Hubpages comes with a clear explanation what they're doing.

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I did notice this.  One of my hubs with the most traffic consistently (almost all from Pinterest) always had a score of 97 - 100 since shortly after it's creation a couple of years ago.  It's now at an 86.  Other hubs I had that don't get much traffic in general compared to the rest and are frankly, not as well written, spiked to really high scores.  One that had never been out of the mid-70's range was sitting at a 99 yesterday.  My overall average is only one point higher.  It's strange days indeed. 

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         jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Ditto, ChristinS, word for word.

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      NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I'm experiencing the same thing. Good to know others are too. Some of my Hubs are much higher, others much lower.
      
      Good to know about the traffic fluctuations that relache pointed out (below). Looking forward to what's going to happen when summer is over.

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      Faith Reaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I had one jump way up to 98 and then those that were at the top forever have dropped.  It is like they all switched places. Silly me, thought it was all the people looking over our hubs to vote in the upcoming awards.

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   nifwlseirffposted 9 years ago

   I'm seeing the same. My top traffic, and usually top hubscore hubs dropped about 20 points. Others jumped way up. Odd.

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   relacheposted 9 years ago

   Please note we are gonna see some funky traffic dips as we go through the end of August.  It's the dog days of summer.
   
   Once we get on the other side of the Labor Day holiday, traffic patterns distinctly change.

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      Suzanne Dayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      If I remember correctly, traffic doubled for me last Christmas. Can't wait....bring it on!

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   jansharesposted 9 years ago

   Seems to be similar experiences across the board. Thanks guys.
   What about the odd jumps, relache, when traffic is neither up or down? Maybe just the algorithm coughing as it adjusts, i.e., no real explanation?

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   rebekahELLEposted 9 years ago

   I have two very unlikely hubs at the top of my stats with scores of 99.  One has great potential to take off in a month or so.  They are both unique, one of a kind type hubs.

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      jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I noticed the same, rebekahELLE. I was thinking quirky but unique, one of a kind is a better description. Maybe that translates into "original content" which is what HP has been preaching.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         The scores on my Hubs have also changed dramatically.   Traffic now seems to have very little, if any, influence. 
         
         If I look at my Hubs, the ones with the best scores are the ones that tick the most boxes in the "Stellar Hub" section in the top right hand corner of the Hub.    I don't see anything else about them that could explain it.

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         jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly, Marisa. Several have now gone back up to the 90s so it looks like it's stabling off. It does appear that those which "followed the rules" have the higher scores. But those that always had high traffic and high scores are the ones that dropped drastically. It still doesn't explain those with little traffic moving up so high.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Why doesn't it explain why those with little traffic moved high?  Take a look at your scores and assume they've taken traffic out of the mix - does it explain it now?

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               jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Quality?

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Jan, what I was asking is - if you look at your Hubs in edit mode, is there a correlation between the number of ticks in the Stellar Hubs boxes?   There's a very strong correlation indeed  in mine.  That doesn't equate to quality necessarily, though.

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   LeanManposted 9 years ago

   My scores had on the whole risen significantly a couple of weeks ago with the changes that they had made. They have dropped back a little but nothing serious. Most of my hubs tick all the boxes for "stella" hubs also and these tend to now score well except for one oddball....
   
   My one oddball was scoring in the 70's even though it was also one of my highest trafficked hubs - so i reviewed it in line with what Paul had posted last week and realized that it was one of my few hubs that still had some amazon links dropped between the capsules - so I removed them... The post promptly dropped a further 6 points lol.... Oh well....
   
   Making no difference to the traffic however..

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   OldRosesposted 9 years ago

   My hub scores have not recovered.  My average remains a 66.  Prior to this, I had no hubs scoring lower than 76.  My lowest score was a 50 yesterday and inched up to a 51 this morning.  Since the scores have no impact on my earnings, I am studiously ignoring them.

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      jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, continue to do that OldRoses, hang in there. Some of us geeks just love to analyze what's happening and try to figure it out. It's like a puzzle I want to solve. For the most part, most of us report that traffic and earnings are fine. Interestingly enough, my hubs in the 60s are all poetry. Not a surprise, quite expected with this new algorithm. Let us carry on!

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         Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Funny how the poetry hubs are all the lowest ranked Jan isn't it. This explains why about a third of my 150 hubs are ranked in the 60s. At least they are all featured, so even though poetry doesn't rate highly with HP they do give it some allowances. We need to keep encouraging people to read poetry and that is an entertaining and enjoyable thing to read. Anyway, it seems that traffic isn't the most important criteria for hub scores anymore and most of mine have now risen slightly. Good thing is my Hubber score has gone up.

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   JG11Bravoposted 9 years ago

   Glad I'm not the only one.  My scores tanked out of the blue, I was concerned that someone finally noticed how often I phone it in.

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   Susana Sposted 9 years ago

   I agree with Marisa. Hubscore doesn't seem to have much (if any) correlation to traffic anymore. In fact, I have a sneaky suspicion that high traffic hubs are purposely downgraded hubscore wise so that they can't be identified and scraped so easily.

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    Availiasvisionposted 9 years ago

    I've noticed that my hubs with higher Pinterest and search engine results are rating higher.  My keyword friendly hubs are doing better.

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