When To Move Your Articles

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   LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

   How long do you let an article sit on a site, especially writing sites, before you decide to move it once traffic seems to be at a standstill?

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      calculus-geometryposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      If the articles never got any traffic to begin with, the culprit may be content rather than location.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I ask myself the question - why is this article not getting traffic?   Is the problem related to the site or to the article itself?  If the site is obviously in trouble for some reason, I'll move it - otherwise I'll leave it, unless I have an appropriate specialist blog I can move it to.
      
      There is no magic about writing sites. An article on Wizzley and an article on Infobarrel have exactly the same chance of getting traffic - the idea that an article might "do better" on one site or the other is a myth (unless the site has been Google slapped, of course). 
      
      I think what confuses people is that some sites are more social than others, so they may get more comments or votes or whatever on one site than another - but the internal audience is so small, that makes no material difference to the number of readers in the long term.   
      
      HubPages is a bit different because of the sub-domains - if something gets unFeatured then I will move it.

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      Uzochukwu Mikeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It is better to allow it sit there once your site or subdomain has been identified by search engine.
      If it has not been identified, you can move.
      I Moved some of my articles from .blogspot to hubpages because the site lacked visibility then. But I cannot do that now as the blog got updated this January.
      I advice to keep editing such article if you can see you site once you type the url in google search engine.

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   paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

   I've had hubs come alive after  1-2 years. So, my wait period is 2 years before I bring out the firing squad.

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      PegCole17posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      

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         LindaSmith1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Personally, I don't like having to jump from site to site. My hubs are on another site now.  I simply created a list of some of those on my own website to see if traffic picks up at their current location. If my readers aren't going there, then I will simply move those articles to my own site so everything is on there.

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   psycheskinnerposted 9 years ago

   I only remove it if I have something else to do with it.

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      aesta1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I do the same. I just let it sit there. I do edit it regularly. Some eventually get traffic.

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   jjheathcoatposted 9 years ago

   I'll move these articles when they force me at gunpoint, or threaten to take away my video games and send me to bed with no dessert.

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      lorlie6posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Haha!

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   LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

   Marissa:  I moved most of my hubs to various spots. Of course, they lost their placement in Google search.  I moved them to Wizzley which shows us the traffic sources that we don't even see on HP such as Rebel Mouse and others. It seems like most of the traffic is internal.
   
   I started a new website and again, have moved some of those I had put on Wizzley that were low in traffic, and moved them to my own website, that is not even a month old yet, and they are doing better on my own site(s).    I have not made any big changes to any of them. I may have changed a title.
   
   The difference between HP, Wizzley and my sites is that I can have more SEO such as title for search engines that can be different than actual title, meta keywords. 
   
   I moved my hubs to Wizzley in December.  I am contemplating as to whether or not to move the others that will fit my web sites or let them sit for a bit.
   
   I have read: let them sit for 6 months, or let them sit at least for a year before you move them.   I wonder if there is a right answer when it comes to moving content.

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   LeanManposted 9 years ago

   Your own sites will almost certainly do better than HP if you are writing in a niche, mine certainly do.
   
   As to the difference between HP, Wizzley, Infobarrel, etc the only thing I would say is to look at the internal competition on the sites for your keywords - if you are writing about something here for instance and there are 100's of other pages that are all aiming for that keyword then google is not going to show them all; however if no one on Infobarrel is targeting the keywords you will not have to fight the internal competition as well as the rest of the pages on the internet.. So choose wisely before you write and before you move..
   
   As to how long you should wait - in my experience if a page is going to get traffic it usually starts to get traffic pretty quickly - if it has zero traffic after a couple of months then look at why before you move..... Competition, zero people searching, poor quality in the eyes of G...
   
   You should only have to move if the issue is with internal competition, everything else you can fix..

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   LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

   Leanman: Not sure as to how to do that.  HP has the topics tree, but Wizzley doesn't have anything like that.

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      LeanManposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      If you are targeting specific keywords do the search both in Google and in the search box here in HP (next to the logo top left.)
      You need to check your competition in both....

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   Beaddoodlerposted 9 years ago

   I've never moved an article unless I knew the site was shutting down.

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   johndwilliamsposted 9 years ago

   I'm leaving mine here and consider them finished. They will need tweaking and re-working, but I'll keep them here. A few of my articles from years back are well dead - I will re-work them shortly and see if they can generate readers and therefore traffic.
   
   How do you actually remove articles from Hubpages though? I am sure I haven't seen an export button anywhere>

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    CASE1WORKERposted 9 years ago

    I don't bother now- I did for a little while and moved them to Infobarrell but they didn't do any good there either which brought me to the conclusion that they were not what people wanted- but I did enjoy writing them and to me that is what it is all about!

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    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    John: copy and paste on doc in word save in computer.  Then deleted them from HP.  HP takes 24 hours or more to actually delete them. I also use the Google URL removal tool once deleted from here.

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       johndwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Linda - good old Copy and Paste

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    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    I have some that are pointing to a hub I have here.  But since HP is now selecting certain hubs because of one external link which is allowed according to rules, and then cancelling the account of that Hubber, I am deciding what to do with the articles that link to the HP hub, or simply moving the hub completely from HP.  I definitely will kill the links pointing to HP though.

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       mary615posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Hi, Linda.  I've read your comment several times, and still don't really understand what you are saying.  We are allowed to link to our own Hubs, right??

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          LindaSmith1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Who knows about linking at HP.  Rules don't apply to every one.
          You are allowed 2 external links to same domain, yet one hubber just had a hub unfeatured due to one link to external site, and then had his entire account shut down by HP after complaining about it.
          
          I was linking to one of my hubs from another site, but I have removed that link that comes to HP.  I am about ready to move the hub itself even though it gets decent traffic and sales.

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             mary615posted 9 years agoin reply to this

             OK, now I get it.

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                LindaSmith1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                I have moved 99 percent of my hubs elsewhere.  I am debating about moving them again to my own site from the site they are on, but they have only been there for less than 2 months, some for a few weeks. I am linking between that site and my own site to see what happens with traffic.  My own sites do better than HP, as well as the other site for traffic and sales

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                Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Mary, I would be very surprised if that one link was enough to get that Hubber penalised - unless the external site was very suspicious indeed.   As we all know, the reason for unpublishing a Hub isn't always clear and I suspect the Hubber in question doesn't know the real reason and has jumped to conclusions.  I haven't seen a thread about it anywhere.

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          Don Bobbittposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I think we all need to remember that HP has that little "Featured" icon beside your Hub. And, if it's not Featured, Google doesn't see it, unless someone specifically searches for that article.
          
          So, if your Hub becomes "unfeatured" you are only getting an HP audience.
          
          Something for us all to think about.
          
          As to your question, I have another site that I move my more creative writing over to after they make their initial "splash" with HP readers. We all need to accept the fact that HP (and Google" wants highly commercial article, not beautiful poetry or moving stories. And, such articles will quickly drop down the HP list.
          
          DON

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    FatFreddysCatposted 9 years ago

    I haven't moved any articles, because I don't have anywhere to move them to. I've entertained thoughts of starting my own blog from time to time to put some of my stuff "out to pasture" but have never gotten round to it, mostly due to lack of time, know-how, and/or patience to do so... but also because I figure if an article is being ignored here, it's likely to be ignored anywhere else I may move it to so there's not much point.
    
    I'm approaching my 4th anniversary here, though, and I've been thinking that it may be time to finally take some of my earliest moldy oldies out of circulation entirely, because of the thick coating of dust on them!!

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       LindaSmith1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I started out with Blogger.  It isn't that difficult.  I tried the paid Word Press, but that is complicated in my opinion. Now I continue to use blogger and Weebly along with Wizzley.  I think my days of doing hubs are over.

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          FatFreddysCatposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I tried Wizzley at one point a while ago when I was first trying out this whole Online Writer thing but didn't really dig it so I stuck with HP.  I know the conventional wisdom is "never put all your eggs in one basket" ... but I've never been one for following conventional wisdom, it's a severe character flaw, haha.

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    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    Don my sites are doing well with the content I moved from HP.  I am not writing poems or recipes or about Apple and some of the other boring, boring, boring topics I am seeing.  I don't read them either
    
    HP wants boring.  HP wants to make money from Amazon etc but then doesn't want Amazon products in hubs, maybe because they have their own ads for Amazon on the site. 
    
    Let people write about going to Aunties house where they ate a delicious dish and write a recipe for that dish.  No thanks!!! 
    
    If I am looking for a product, I want info about the product not about going to Grandma's house, and 1100 hundred words which are mostly a pretty story.  OMG and a dozen images added to that.  Nope, not for me.

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       Don Bobbittposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Linda, Same for me.
       The ones I finally move do well as far as audience goes, and I am not giving up my creative bent, so to speak.
       
       That's why I have several of my own specialized Blogs and a personal website where I can Rant, wax poetic, show a picture I like, whatever my heart desires.
       Am i making money? Hell, No! But I am having fun.
       
       Don

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    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    I won't mention the hubbers name.  First was banned from forum after creating thread about this. 
    
    Now HP has shut his entire account down for complaining. There was one link, not suspicious at all.  They called this spam. 
    
    Yet, HP staffer has hub with multiple business listed and a link to every one of them.

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    Barbara Kayposted 9 years ago

    I try to be patient before moving hubs. I had one that hardly got traffic and then after about 3 years it was number 2 on Google and got major traffic. Now it is down to moderate traffic and is at the bottom of the first page., but still doesn't do poorly.
    
    I do admit though that I have moved about 40 hubs over the years to my own niche sites or just deleted some that just weren't good topics to begin with.

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