Time for HP to Apply its Own High Standards for Own Intermal Programs

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  1. janderson99 profile image57
    janderson99posted 3 years ago

    Running spelling and grammar tools, and plagiarism checks, on the three Hubpro examples in the recent blog [ http://blog.hubpages.com/2015/03/23/hub … -makeover]  highlighted errors in all of them. http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/129533#post2719123

    Similarly the latest Editors Choice Award contains 2 spelling errors
    "thecharacterization"; "toneof" and a number of grammatical errors.

    I suggest it is time for HP to lift its game, and do what it asks authors to do - set the highest standard. All it takes is to use simple cheap software tools to do the checks. IMO

    This especially applies for Hubpro which is meant to showcase to Google glowing perfection in quality to defeat Panda slaps. Errors defeat this purpose.

    ECs are meant to be the best of the best and get assigned glowing labels and endorsement in related hubs, topics, etc.

    1. psycheskinner profile image83
      psycheskinnerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Okay so wait a minute, number three overlaps heavily with http://scmomentum.com/50-ways-to-show-m … thers-day/  (May, 2014)

      Was that just not detected, or was that actually added by the editor?

      Plagiarism is serious stuff and duplicate content is surely something a "HubPro" looks for?.

  2. Shades-of-truth profile image89
    Shades-of-truthposted 3 years ago

    Hear, hear!

  3. Robin profile imageSTAFF
    Robinposted 3 years ago

    We work really hard to have the highest standards especially for Hubpro and EC. However, we are human and mistakes do get through.  Even the best of us make mistakes (take the title of your forum post for example has a simple typo that I'm sure you missed even after reading it multiple times.)  smile 

    I appreciate your sentiment, and we are working hard on improving our game.  Another thing to keep in mind is that sometimes Hubbers go back and add content or change the work that we have edited, so you can't always be sure that the changes made were by an editor.  I'm not saying we don't make mistakes, but we have had a lot of Hubbers edit their Hubs after our HubPro editor and added grammatical/spelling/style errors.  Like I said, I do appreciate the feedback.  You are right, we all need to up our game!  smile

    1. paradigm search profile image61
      paradigm searchposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Could you tell me more about HP's intermal programs? I missed the blog post on that one.

      1. colorfulone profile image82
        colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        +1

    2. janderson99 profile image57
      janderson99posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      @Robin, Thanks for your response. Glad you picked up my inserted m&m 'typos'!  It is not so hard! I agree we all need to work hard to strive for the best that it can be. I use SpellCheckPlus(dot) and there are many similar software tools. I still think that HP should get the APIs for some of these packages, and develop automatic tools that check for spelling, grammar and copied content. This would be very helpful for everyone and the site overall! It is odd that HP does not even have a spellchecker on the site after 8+ years. Cheers

      1. paradigm search profile image61
        paradigm searchposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I missed it, too, until I saw Robin's post. She has a sharp eye. lol

      2. Robin profile imageSTAFF
        Robinposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I think it's great you use other software for grammar and spelling.  We do have a spell checker in the Text Capsule, but it would be nice to have a grammar checker on HubPages.  We have looked into it in the past, and I will bring it up again.  Thanks for the feedback.  smile

        1. janderson99 profile image57
          janderson99posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          The external tools produce reports that list spelling and grammar errors as well as highlighting them in the text entered. This is very useful, especially when finalising an article or a section.

          http://www.wotheheck.com/sperror.jpg

    3. csmiravite-blogs profile image58
      csmiravite-blogsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, we click publish and to our horror, we see errors! We edit, then we see again --- errors. It's a never ending battle with errors! But come to think of it, I sometimes see well written hubs with a soul in it, though with a number of spelling and grammatical errors. Some hubs can be so perfect, but it's like entering into a hollowed hall with no living thing in it. I'd rather read the former.  smile

      1. Robin profile imageSTAFF
        Robinposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I agree!  Thanks for pointing this out.  The holy grail is for a Hub to have soul and be well written—a hard thing to do!  smile

    4. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image98
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I kind of like the word "intermal"!!  Just think, we now have a new word for the English language!

      Years ago I was teaching a class of advanced 7th graders and told them to make up a word that only the class would know the meaning of, but to use it liberally.  We had such a good time with that lesson!

      The word was "Gefungasblatt".  Any guess as to what it meant?

  4. sockii profile image79
    sockiiposted 3 years ago

    Snarking over a spelling mistake in a forum post versus errors in actual hubs.

    Yeah. That gives me so much faith in management at the moment.

    1. Robin profile imageSTAFF
      Robinposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I wasn't being snarky—just playing around!  I think janderson knew I was kidding.  smile

    2. relache profile image85
      relacheposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      ...throws hat in this ring...

  5. profile image0
    calculus-geometryposted 3 years ago

    Suggestion: make HP's native spell check run automatically when you save a draft. The spelling errors could be highlighted and noted in the yellow warning box that appears on the side in draft mode, similar to the way broken links are highlighted.

    I know it won't result in everyone writing perfect typo-free hubs, but it might slightly improve quality site-wide if people pay attention to that sort of thing.  I know it would help me.

  6. Shades-of-truth profile image89
    Shades-of-truthposted 3 years ago

    I check my text when I am in edit mode, and the red underlines have always been helpful. If a word I am using which is a legitimate word, is underlined, I simply right-click and click on "add to dictionary". That seems to word just fine.

    Unfortunately, it does not catch things like "hear" and "here", or "to", "too", or "two", but my brain usually does.

    I am grateful for that feature, as it has caught a few things that I missed.

  7. Sue Adams profile image94
    Sue Adamsposted 3 years ago

    @ janderson99
    Your little spello proves your point for the necessity of your suggestions. Are you sure you didn't do it on purpose?

    @ TIMETRAVELER2
    Gefungasblatt... Hhmm...A leaf of fungus?
    Or ... The gasboard's magazine?
    What was it?

    1. janderson99 profile image57
      janderson99posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I did it on purpose. It Worked a Treat!

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image98
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I'll give you a hint by putting the word in a sentence:

      We are all looking forward to the day when Gefungasblatt arrives.

 
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