Generating Income on HP

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  1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image99
    TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years ago

    I have read numerous posts that state we cannot earn money when other hubbers read our articles.  I sent an email to the team to clarify this issue, and the fact is that we do indeed earn when fellow hubbers read our work.  I thought it was important to share this info, as there seems to be some confusion about it.

    1. wilderness profile image97
      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      It's easy enough to see with a HOTD.  Hubber traffic goes through the roof, and impressions and income climbs right along with it.

    2. Barbara Kay profile image91
      Barbara Kayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I am happy to hear this, since I've read over and over again in the forums that you can't. I wonder if they changed the rule at one time, since it is all long time members that say you can't.

      1. SmartAndFun profile image97
        SmartAndFunposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I think what people might mean is that it's not wise to spend time and effort chasing internal views, because in the long run you can't expect to make much money at all from views by fellow Hubbers -- what really pays off over time is search engine traffic. Newbies sometimes think the way to earn money at HP is by gaining followers, or sometimes people get upset when their new hub doesn't show up on the feed. These people seem to think they'll get lots of views -- or perhaps the bulk of their views -- from fellow Hubbers. A newly published hub may see an early surge of views from within HP, and a HOTD will see traffic spike up for that day and maybe a few days after, but internal traffic isn't going to amount to much, therefore it is not going to pay much at all.

        We've probably all heard that advice before, and I wonder if perhaps this bit of advice morphed over time into "internal HP views don't pay at all."

        1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image99
          TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          I disagree with this thinking, mainly because hubbers are people, just like everybody else, who have friends, post on social networking sites, etc

          If I post an article that people here just love, and they, in turn, share it with other hubbers as well as on FB, Pinterest, et al, and people there love it, also...well, that's how hubs go viral!

          I view it much the same as throwing a pebble in a pond and watching the circles to out from it in ever widening fashion.

          Also, when people follow you, it means that every article you write shows up on their feed, which makes it easier for them to share, comment, etc.  Google looks at those things, and they help rankings.

          So, those who think writing that hubbers view is not worthwhile might want to think again.  Thars GOLD in them thar hills!

          Why do you think some people here write hubs to specifically help the rest of us?

          1. Millionaire Tips profile image91
            Millionaire Tipsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Fellow Hubbers are important. They help the hub start getting traffic.  But they are a small group. They will provide initial traffic but that traffic will die down pretty quickly.

            Isn't it better to throw a lot of pebbles into the pond (search engine traffic) instead of a few?

            Some people write hubs for other Hubbers, but aren't in it for the money. In fact, I have heard complaints from them about how they don't make a lot of money.  There are a few reference hubs that the established Hubbers have written on SEO, legal images, etc, that probably do earn some money, but you will notice that the established Hubbers write on other topics as well.

            I had written hubs for other Hubbers and have unpublished most of them, because once the initial traffic dies down, there is usually nothing to replace it.

            1. psycheskinner profile image84
              psycheskinnerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              Also... we don't want to get drowned in spam here.

            2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image99
              TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

              I am not saying that Hubbers are the best source for earning, just that they are another source.  The point I make is that those who say you earn nothing from them misunderstand the situation.  There are tens of thousands of people who write here, so I really do not consider them a "small" group.  Imagine if every single one of them read every hub you wrote, shared it with social media, etc...that would add up to a large amount of income, don't you think.

              Of course, we all know that isn't what happens, but since the possibility exists, I think it's important to recognize it.

              1. Millionaire Tips profile image91
                Millionaire Tipsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                I agree. Hubbers are important, and they are definitely a source of traffic, especially if they share your hub with their social contacts.  There are some Hubbers who have a tendency to imply that Hubber traffic doesn't earn anything, but if you read some of their other posts, you will see that they don't really mean "nothing", they mean "not much." 

                I did learn that they are right. It is much better to target the broader audience, since Hubbers are a part of this broader audience too.

                1. Millionaire Tips profile image91
                  Millionaire Tipsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  What happens is that newer Hubbers read these posts, and infer the wrong meaning and then spread that as if it was fact.

          2. SmartAndFun profile image97
            SmartAndFunposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I think you're misunderstanding what I was trying to say. I just meant that some newbies would come to the forums, upset that they didn't have hundreds or thousands of followers, mistakenly thinking that fellow Hubbers were the main way or the only way to earn money here.

            I don't mean that followers or fellow Hubbers are not important. I just was just theorizing that when newbies would get the advice not to worry too much about amassing thousands of followers and concentrate on search engines instead, this might somehow have morphed into "internal views don't count." That's all.

            1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image99
              TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

              +1

            2. colorfulone profile image85
              colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              This.

      2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image99
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Nothing has changed.  It was always that way.  I just wanted to clarify this with the team to make sure of that.

      3. Millionaire Tips profile image91
        Millionaire Tipsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        We have been able to earn from other Hubbers as long as I have been on the site.  I think that there is a misunderstanding of what is being said by the established Hubbers.  Even though you can earn from other Hubbers, people who are members of HubPages are a small group, and those who read other people's hubs are an even smaller group.  You will usually earn only pennies per day when you write for Hubbers.

        In order to earn a lot more money (monthly payouts and more), you have to write for a mass audience. A small mass comes from social media, especially if your hub goes viral, but to make the most money, the mass audience comes from search engines. The search engine traffic is more consistent over time as compared to social media, and is certainly a much larger group than other Hubbers.

    3. agvulpes profile image88
      agvulpesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I have always been under the impression that we got paid for 'unique' views regardless of where they come from.  So if a Follower visits a Hub of yours lets say 20 times !  You will only be rewarded with one view?  Correct me if I am wrong?

  2. louise-barraco profile image39
    louise-barracoposted 3 years ago

    I  am happy to here this as well thank you

  3. Mark Ewbie profile image87
    Mark Ewbieposted 3 years ago

    Oh well - I guess I better post endless look-at-me shit in the forums or set up some secret writing sites or spend my time offering to help newbies in return for their likes, views and comments.

    In my opinion - that stuff stinks.

    1. English-lion profile image81
      English-lionposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      +1

 
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